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Anonymous wrote:University of Spoiled Children is not a great school. It’s above average students with money. Michigan academics are superior. USC is a school for lifestyle, like Colorado Boulder. Michigan is for academics. Choice depends on why one is going to college.

Not to mention one step outside of USC is a ghetto.

+1. I agree with this. And I'm a So-Californian. I would never send my kid to USC. While it has climbed the rankings, most locals still consider it the overpriced University of Spoiled Children. The location is awful. You have to drive to get anywhere (good luck with that with the traffic). The air quality is poor. Everything around the university is congested. There is too much emphasis on appearance. You are two exists from Watts. It your kid just wants to party and be with the pretty people for four years - and you want to pay for it - then I guess OK. I don't consider it a good undergrad experience from an academic point of view. And, yes, I have relatives who went to USC and did very little with their degree other than become pretty real estate agents. You can do better. I would Hire a Michigan grad over USC any day of the week. Also, you don't have to go through LAX to get to Michigan

Californian here. Are you posting from 1983, perhaps?

Haha
Yes
NP,
There are U of M grade I know who have done little with their degrees also…?

Honestly, who knows how good USC really is…..they keep getting caught cheating:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-04-29/usc-education-school-omitted-data-us-news-world-report-rankings



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Two deans at the University of Southern California’s education school directed officials to omit key data submitted for U.S. News & World Report’s annual list of best graduate schools, moves that contributed to the school’s rise in the rankings, according to an investigation released Friday.

In March, USC announced that it pulled the Rossier School of Education out of U.S. News & World Report’s next annual rankings list after it discovered “a history of inaccuracies” in data reported by the school going back at least five years. The university commissioned an independent investigation to identify how the flawed data occurred.

Most recently, the school ranked No. 11 among education schools. The misreporting created the impression that the school’s “doctoral programs were much smaller and more selective than they actually were,” the report by the law firm Jones Day concluded.

The report describes a practice that lasted for many years under Dean Karen Symms Gallagher, who oversaw the Rossier School from 2000 to 2020, and continued under Dean Pedro Noguera, who started in 2020. Both deans signed off on the misreporting, though Noguera in late 2021 alerted the school’s provost to a possible problem


Notice the, “many years” remark? Probably coincides with the rise of the entire school.

Michigan is the far better team!

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Anonymous wrote:UMich daughter said it was 19 degrees and windy this morning on her hike to the library. Amazing school but if you are at all sensitive to cold weather, avoid it. It’s not like Boulder where there’s always lots of sun.

It’s not like Boulder academically either…..

For the majority of kids at Michigan, it makes no difference if they are at Michigan or Boulder

Michigan is a huge school - the top 1/3 it’s worth it.

The bottom 2/3 could end up with the same opportunities while going to a better lifestyle school

That’s nonsense. Michigan offers a superlative education that Boulder could only dream of providing.

Undergraduate College isn’t about education - it’s mostly signaling

CU Boulder is a flagship - kids below the median at Michigan aren’t gonna anything different out of life than kids from CU….the Michigan brand only moves the needle for the top 1/3 at Michigan.

For others they are competing and on a level playing field for jobs and opportunities from other flagship public grads.

UM (or any public flagship) isn’t penn where even the 25th percentile grad can see a difference in outcomes just based on the strength of the brand

Wrong. The alumni network alone makes it much more valuable than Boulder.

Such a helpful alumni network you have the time to spam several college forums all day about how great UMich is! I would bet anything you’ve never been to USC.

Gee, I thought this was a Mich vs USC thread. How did CU get into the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:University of Spoiled Children is not a great school. It’s above average students with money. Michigan academics are superior. USC is a school for lifestyle, like Colorado Boulder. Michigan is for academics. Choice depends on why one is going to college.

Not to mention one step outside of USC is a ghetto.

+1. I agree with this. And I'm a So-Californian. I would never send my kid to USC. While it has climbed the rankings, most locals still consider it the overpriced University of Spoiled Children. The location is awful. You have to drive to get anywhere (good luck with that with the traffic). The air quality is poor. Everything around the university is congested. There is too much emphasis on appearance. You are two exists from Watts. It your kid just wants to party and be with the pretty people for four years - and you want to pay for it - then I guess OK. I don't consider it a good undergrad experience from an academic point of view. And, yes, I have relatives who went to USC and did very little with their degree other than become pretty real estate agents. You can do better. I would Hire a Michigan grad over USC any day of the week. Also, you don't have to go through LAX to get to Michigan

Californian here. Are you posting from 1983, perhaps?

Only thing I can add was going to the USC vs Texas game at USC was AMAZING, even in 2017 as a 36 year old.

I hate cold and winter, dislike the dry skin that comes along with it.

Arguing over future job prospects is silly, both would be fine for any major.

USC.

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Anonymous wrote:UMich daughter said it was 19 degrees and windy this morning on her hike to the library. Amazing school but if you are at all sensitive to cold weather, avoid it. It’s not like Boulder where there’s always lots of sun.

It’s not like Boulder academically either…..

For the majority of kids at Michigan, it makes no difference if they are at Michigan or Boulder

Michigan is a huge school - the top 1/3 it’s worth it.

The bottom 2/3 could end up with the same opportunities while going to a better lifestyle school

That’s nonsense. Michigan offers a superlative education that Boulder could only dream of providing.

Undergraduate College isn’t about education - it’s mostly signaling

CU Boulder is a flagship - kids below the median at Michigan aren’t gonna anything different out of life than kids from CU….the Michigan brand only moves the needle for the top 1/3 at Michigan.

For others they are competing and on a level playing field for jobs and opportunities from other flagship public grads.

UM (or any public flagship) isn’t penn where even the 25th percentile grad can see a difference in outcomes just based on the strength of the brand

Wrong. The alumni network alone makes it much more valuable than Boulder.

Such a helpful alumni network you have the time to spam several college forums all day about how great UMich is! I would bet anything you’ve never been to USC.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless the kid has a strong slant towards finance, and is in state for Michigan, then UM has the edge.

Otherwise in most instances, USC is the better option.

Totally disagree. Michigan is stronger academically than USC in most comparable disciplines.

Completely disagree.
Michigan is overcrowded college for instaters.
USC is a better school overall.

False. Michigan is much more respected academically

+1

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Anonymous wrote:UMich daughter said it was 19 degrees and windy this morning on her hike to the library. Amazing school but if you are at all sensitive to cold weather, avoid it. It’s not like Boulder where there’s always lots of sun.

It’s not like Boulder academically either…..

For the majority of kids at Michigan, it makes no difference if they are at Michigan or Boulder

Michigan is a huge school - the top 1/3 it’s worth it.

The bottom 2/3 could end up with the same opportunities while going to a better lifestyle school

Top third = the College of Engineering and perhaps a couple hundred 3.9-4.0 GPA pre med grinds

And Ross and Ford and...

I mean really, other than Film, what program does USC have that is better than Michigans?

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Anonymous wrote:UMich daughter said it was 19 degrees and windy this morning on her hike to the library. Amazing school but if you are at all sensitive to cold weather, avoid it. It’s not like Boulder where there’s always lots of sun.

It’s not like Boulder academically either…..

For the majority of kids at Michigan, it makes no difference if they are at Michigan or Boulder

Michigan is a huge school - the top 1/3 it’s worth it.

The bottom 2/3 could end up with the same opportunities while going to a better lifestyle school

That’s nonsense. Michigan offers a superlative education that Boulder could only dream of providing.

Undergraduate College isn’t about education - it’s mostly signaling

CU Boulder is a flagship - kids below the median at Michigan aren’t gonna anything different out of life than kids from CU….the Michigan brand only moves the needle for the top 1/3 at Michigan.

For others they are competing and on a level playing field for jobs and opportunities from other flagship public grads.

UM (or any public flagship) isn’t penn where even the 25th percentile grad can see a difference in outcomes just based on the strength of the brand

Wrong. The alumni network alone makes it much more valuable than Boulder.

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Anonymous wrote:UMich daughter said it was 19 degrees and windy this morning on her hike to the library. Amazing school but if you are at all sensitive to cold weather, avoid it. It’s not like Boulder where there’s always lots of sun.

It’s not like Boulder academically either…..

For the majority of kids at Michigan, it makes no difference if they are at Michigan or Boulder

Michigan is a huge school - the top 1/3 it’s worth it.

The bottom 2/3 could end up with the same opportunities while going to a better lifestyle school

Top third = the College of Engineering and perhaps a couple hundred 3.9-4.0 GPA pre med grinds

And rich spoiled kid school is rich spoiled kid school. Might as well be Bennington.

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Anonymous wrote:UMich daughter said it was 19 degrees and windy this morning on her hike to the library. Amazing school but if you are at all sensitive to cold weather, avoid it. It’s not like Boulder where there’s always lots of sun.

It’s not like Boulder academically either…..

State school is state school for undergrad.

Anonymous wrote:USC. How do this even a question?!

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Unless the kid has a strong slant towards finance, and is in state for Michigan, then UM has the edge.

Otherwise in most instances, USC is the better option.

Totally disagree. Michigan is stronger academically than USC in most comparable disciplines.

Completely disagree.
Michigan is overcrowded college for instaters.
USC is a better school overall.

False. Michigan is much more respected academically