Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 09:32     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


you know.. I'm an Independent, but I hate this attitude. You rely on other people carrying the tax burdens in blue states but you want to avail yourself of their generous blue state policies because you have the means to go to a blue state if you need to.

Thank goodness there are blue states with their high taxes and reasonable abortion laws, right? While you get to enjoy your low tax state.


DP here. People will do what's best for their individual circumstances, you included. Were you out there advocating schools to reopen Fall of 2020 to serve children? Or did you just go along with it because you had the resources to take care of your own kids? Did you at least volunteer to personally tutor some special needs or poor kids every day? If not, then you're a hypocrite for criticizing pp.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 09:23     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.


anatomy scan isn't until 20w.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 09:01     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


you know.. I'm an Independent, but I hate this attitude. You rely on other people carrying the tax burdens in blue states but you want to avail yourself of their generous blue state policies because you have the means to go to a blue state if you need to.

Thank goodness there are blue states with their high taxes and reasonable abortion laws, right? While you get to enjoy your low tax state.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 08:40     Subject: Are people still moving to Florida?

I’ll be happy when Blue States start banning Florida drivers licenses from accessing abortion services once the GOP bans it in Florida. You reap what you sow, folks.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 07:54     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.


Cuz teens who are raped and teens in general often don’t know what is happening with their bodies or are afraid or ashamed to admit it. Lots of reasons. Would you have a mother of 2 who has a nonviable fetus leave her family to travel to Maryland to have an abortion? You’re not pro life, you are pro you.


Right. But the number of teens who are raped AND get pregnant AND don’t find out until after 15 weeks AND want to abort is incredibly small. This is why most people are more concerned with the economy.


This. I'm adamantly pro-choice, but this economy is really harming my family. Worst case scenario, I could pay to take my kid to somewhere for a late-term abortion on the minuscule chance it's ever needed.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 06:12     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.


Cuz teens who are raped and teens in general often don’t know what is happening with their bodies or are afraid or ashamed to admit it. Lots of reasons. Would you have a mother of 2 who has a nonviable fetus leave her family to travel to Maryland to have an abortion? You’re not pro life, you are pro you.


Right. But the number of teens who are raped AND get pregnant AND don’t find out until after 15 weeks AND want to abort is incredibly small. This is why most people are more concerned with the economy.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 00:46     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.


Cuz teens who are raped and teens in general often don’t know what is happening with their bodies or are afraid or ashamed to admit it. Lots of reasons. Would you have a mother of 2 who has a nonviable fetus leave her family to travel to Maryland to have an abortion? You’re not pro life, you are pro you.


How long should the teen be able to abort the baby? How many months?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2022 09:25     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.


Cuz teens who are raped and teens in general often don’t know what is happening with their bodies or are afraid or ashamed to admit it. Lots of reasons. Would you have a mother of 2 who has a nonviable fetus leave her family to travel to Maryland to have an abortion? You’re not pro life, you are pro you.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 17:37     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:Florida is no longer the top retirement state. Pennsylvania now has 3 of the top 5 cities to retire to in the US. Florida still gets a lot of migrants and retirees, though, just not as many as it used to.

https://www.inquirer.com/real-estate/housing/best-place-retire-pennsylvania-us-news-world-report-20221101.html
Fine if you're white. I've been all over the country and I have never felt as uncomfortable as I was in rural PA.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 17:11     Subject: Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:Wonder why LEO’s still support Republicans, who basically sign their death warrants.


Well, the alternative Democrat running for Sheriff in my Florida county wanted to defund the police. Not much of a choice if you are pro-law enforcement and have witnessed how the new mental health response force doesn't actually remove problem individuals. I wish there was a middle choice, but out of those two I voted for the Republican sheriff candidate.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2022 18:58     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Florida is no longer the top retirement state. Pennsylvania now has 3 of the top 5 cities to retire to in the US. Florida still gets a lot of migrants and retirees, though, just not as many as it used to.

https://www.inquirer.com/real-estate/housing/best-place-retire-pennsylvania-us-news-world-report-20221101.html
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2022 18:14     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.

They’re catastrophizing. They don’t get that Desantis is savvy. He loves comparing the Florida law to similar laws across Europe and he wants to be president. Florida won’t go the same route as Texas.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2022 17:58     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?


Why would they need to leave the state of florida? Abortion is legal up to 15 weeks and 6 days in Florida.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2022 17:53     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


So you are ok with a teen from Southern FL who was raped by their neighbor having to marshall the money and support to travel to probably Maryland to get an abortion. That's ok with you?
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2022 17:42     Subject: Re:Are people still moving to Florida?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an independent in Florida and I was up in the air whether I would vote for DeSantis until recently. He has done well with economic policies and for a Republican he has done well with the environment. Although I am prochoice, that is not an issue I would choose a candidate for as long as abortion is available in other states. Although I have been super left most of my life, the current PC policies of Democrats, along with both parties just supporting different corporations have made me a skeptic.

I do always vote every election. The deciding issue why I won't vote for DeSantis? He wants to pass permitless open carry of guns. That is a policy that could potentially effect my day to day life.


My sister is in law enforcement in Florida and permitted carry would absolutely make her job harder. It's nuts how they claim to be tough on crime but then do things that make life harder for LEOs.


Sorry eliminating permitted carry. Since they passed this in Texas LEOs have said people reach for guns instead of fistfighting. And a lot easier for a bystander to be harmed by a stray bullet than a stray fist.


DP. This is a big reason I don't want to live somewhere like FL or TX, or AZ for that matter. I would enjoy the weather and lifestyle more, but I don't want to live in a place where gun culture is popular/a place that attracts gun-obsessed people because they can have their "freedom" there.