Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 13:43     Subject: New FLE program survey live

I would love FLE to be taught co-ed and yes, I do have a daughter. Separating gives the illusion that there is something shameful or worth hiding about puberty and development. Teaching everyone together means everyone gets the same information and it's presented just like the math, science or language arts is.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 12:43     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Exactly what - be specific - is the point of having drag performers read to and confusing young children? We'll wait.


What's the issue with them? Specifically and other than you don't like men dressed as women.
Because, I'm far more concerned with hetero men, dressing as men, around my daughter than I am some drag queen. Whether they are reading stories or not.


NP here. I have no problem with men dressing however they like. Drag queens are men (a privileged class) dressed in a satirical, sexualized, over-the-top caricature of women. The sexualized aspects of Drag performances are what make them inappropriate for children.

At one point, society agreed that children should not be exposed to adult sexuality. It's sad that we no longer have that common understanding.


Meh. I guess if you keep your kid locked at home, sure. But, the reality is that kids are exposed to sexuality, real and satirical all the time. You can argue if that is good or not but it is not likely to change. And, the fact you're singling out this and not a host of other things . . . not impressed with this argument.


My straight a, good kid by any standard, totally normal, not sexually active . . . whatever barometer the morality police want to apply . . . would not bat an eye at a drag queen reading her a story. Your revulsion at it is yours, not your kid. Now, if the queens are reading porn to the kids . . . . maybe you'd have a point.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 12:18     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Exactly what - be specific - is the point of having drag performers read to and confusing young children? We'll wait.


What's the issue with them? Specifically and other than you don't like men dressed as women.
Because, I'm far more concerned with hetero men, dressing as men, around my daughter than I am some drag queen. Whether they are reading stories or not.


NP here. I have no problem with men dressing however they like. Drag queens are men (a privileged class) dressed in a satirical, sexualized, over-the-top caricature of women. The sexualized aspects of Drag performances are what make them inappropriate for children.

At one point, society agreed that children should not be exposed to adult sexuality. It's sad that we no longer have that common understanding.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 11:39     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Exactly what - be specific - is the point of having drag performers read to and confusing young children? We'll wait.


What's the issue with them? Specifically and other than you don't like men dressed as women.
Because, I'm far more concerned with hetero men, dressing as men, around my daughter than I am some drag queen. Whether they are reading stories or not.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 11:37     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Drag queens are not pedos or groomers but they are inappropriate.

Don't normalize them.


What specifically is inappropriate about them?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 09:16     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Neither are burlesque performers.

But neither group is appropriate for children.

Many drag performers are speaking out against pushing drag on children as it opens the door to predators taking advantage of well intended ignorance of those organizing these events.


+1
Here is a comment from one drag queen who does not participate in these event:

Drag Queen Kitty Demure, agrees that these events are not appropriate for children. “They are there for an agenda. They’re not there to read ‘Alice in Wonderland’ and just leave,” she said during an interview. “They’re there to talk about gender, being different and the whole lifestyle homosexuality, trans issues educating these kids on these issues. You’re not even supposed to take your kid that age to a Rated R movie. These are not topics that are meant for a child’s mind, they don’t even know what they want for dinner. How do they know anything about gender, sex, and sexuality?"

“I have absolutely no idea why you would want that to influence your child. Would you want a stripper or a porn star to influence your child? It makes no sense at all,” Demure said in a video address to heterosexual women posted on her Instagram page. “A drag queen performs in a nightclub for adults. There is a lot of filth that goes on, a lot of sexual stuff that goes on and backstage there’s a lot of nudity, sex and drugs. So, I don’t think that this an avenue that you want your child to explore. getting them involved in drag is extremely, extremely irresponsible on your part and I understand that you might want to look like you’re with it, that you’re cool, that you’re woke, that you’re not a Nazi, that you’re not a homophobe. Honestly you’re not doing the gay community any favors, in fact you’re hurting us. We already have a reputation of being pedophiles and perverts and deviants. We don’t need you to bring your children around so you keep your kids at home or you take them to Disneyland or take them to Chuck E. Cheese.”


What the heck? A drag queen mentioning transgender people? Drag queens are typically cisgender gay men. With very rare exceptions, they are not transgender and don't normally speak about trans issues.


Trans issues are ubiquitous now. Unavoidable.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2022 07:10     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Neither are burlesque performers.

But neither group is appropriate for children.

Many drag performers are speaking out against pushing drag on children as it opens the door to predators taking advantage of well intended ignorance of those organizing these events.


+1
Here is a comment from one drag queen who does not participate in these event:

Drag Queen Kitty Demure, agrees that these events are not appropriate for children. “They are there for an agenda. They’re not there to read ‘Alice in Wonderland’ and just leave,” she said during an interview. “They’re there to talk about gender, being different and the whole lifestyle homosexuality, trans issues educating these kids on these issues. You’re not even supposed to take your kid that age to a Rated R movie. These are not topics that are meant for a child’s mind, they don’t even know what they want for dinner. How do they know anything about gender, sex, and sexuality?"

“I have absolutely no idea why you would want that to influence your child. Would you want a stripper or a porn star to influence your child? It makes no sense at all,” Demure said in a video address to heterosexual women posted on her Instagram page. “A drag queen performs in a nightclub for adults. There is a lot of filth that goes on, a lot of sexual stuff that goes on and backstage there’s a lot of nudity, sex and drugs. So, I don’t think that this an avenue that you want your child to explore. getting them involved in drag is extremely, extremely irresponsible on your part and I understand that you might want to look like you’re with it, that you’re cool, that you’re woke, that you’re not a Nazi, that you’re not a homophobe. Honestly you’re not doing the gay community any favors, in fact you’re hurting us. We already have a reputation of being pedophiles and perverts and deviants. We don’t need you to bring your children around so you keep your kids at home or you take them to Disneyland or take them to Chuck E. Cheese.”


What the heck? A drag queen mentioning transgender people? Drag queens are typically cisgender gay men. With very rare exceptions, they are not transgender and don't normally speak about trans issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 23:11     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Neither are burlesque performers.

But neither group is appropriate for children.

Many drag performers are speaking out against pushing drag on children as it opens the door to predators taking advantage of well intended ignorance of those organizing these events.


+1
Here is a comment from one drag queen who does not participate in these event:

Drag Queen Kitty Demure, agrees that these events are not appropriate for children. “They are there for an agenda. They’re not there to read ‘Alice in Wonderland’ and just leave,” she said during an interview. “They’re there to talk about gender, being different and the whole lifestyle homosexuality, trans issues educating these kids on these issues. You’re not even supposed to take your kid that age to a Rated R movie. These are not topics that are meant for a child’s mind, they don’t even know what they want for dinner. How do they know anything about gender, sex, and sexuality?"

“I have absolutely no idea why you would want that to influence your child. Would you want a stripper or a porn star to influence your child? It makes no sense at all,” Demure said in a video address to heterosexual women posted on her Instagram page. “A drag queen performs in a nightclub for adults. There is a lot of filth that goes on, a lot of sexual stuff that goes on and backstage there’s a lot of nudity, sex and drugs. So, I don’t think that this an avenue that you want your child to explore. getting them involved in drag is extremely, extremely irresponsible on your part and I understand that you might want to look like you’re with it, that you’re cool, that you’re woke, that you’re not a Nazi, that you’re not a homophobe. Honestly you’re not doing the gay community any favors, in fact you’re hurting us. We already have a reputation of being pedophiles and perverts and deviants. We don’t need you to bring your children around so you keep your kids at home or you take them to Disneyland or take them to Chuck E. Cheese.”
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 23:06     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Drag queens are not pedos or groomers but they are inappropriate.

Don't normalize them.


Exactly. Beyond bizarre that anyone would think this is a healthy environment for a child to be in.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 23:06     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Exactly what - be specific - is the point of having drag performers read to and confusing young children? We'll wait.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 19:45     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Drag queens are not pedos or groomers but they are inappropriate.

Don't normalize them.


+1
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 08:26     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Neither are burlesque performers.

But neither group is appropriate for children.

Many drag performers are speaking out against pushing drag on children as it opens the door to predators taking advantage of well intended ignorance of those organizing these events.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 08:04     Subject: New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.


Drag queens are not pedos or groomers but they are inappropriate.

Don't normalize them.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2022 07:52     Subject: New FLE program survey live

The only “unchristian” thing that happened with Drag story hour is the hateful response like viewed in the story above. Drag performance, drag performers, are neither predators or child groomers. You’re actually thinking of straight men.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2022 23:10     Subject: Re:New FLE program survey live

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I'm super liberal and I have no interest in having them combine genders for FLE instruction. I just don't think it's beneficial to the dissemination of the information. I would support combining for certain topics, but not for puberty topics or health issues particular to a certain sex (like breast exams, testicular checks, etc.)

I truly don't see any benefit to combining genders for this and I think it will just inhibit discussion and make everyone uncomfortable.


The issue which they are trying to address is which group would the trans kids go with. Well if they combine genders they don’t have to worry about it.


The trans kids who don't want to go with biological gender should do what the religious kids do and opt out.

They don't change the program to accomodate conservative muslims, or traditional catholics. They should not change the program to accomodate a potential transgendered family that wants their kid to go with a different gender.



Unfortunately they already have. Girls at FCPS have lost their right to private spaces in bathrooms, shower and changing areas and overnight trips, as well as their own category in sports. Unfortunately, Title IX, which protects the rights of a student to have an educational environment free from sex-based discrimination, no longer exist on the principles it was created for. How about the rights of girls not to have boys present when intrinsic biological changes are being taught? Or boys, not to have theirs described in front of girls? After all, these are kids we are talking about. Although, come to think about it, unless we (the adults) are in the field of medicine, we wouldn’t feel comfortably having these discussions in front of our coworkers of the opposite sex either.

Unfortunately, this isn’t about making the 0.01 percent of students comfortable at school, this feels more like some male adults imposing their radical gender ideology and agenda on our kids. What is next FCPS, transvestite shows at school?


No, next will be drag queen story hour at FCPS.


Oh boy… let’s hope that won’t be the case! This story in McLean, VA encompasses pretty match the Orwellian setting that - after watching the FCPS School Board meetings and where their priorities stand - leaves no doubt the new changes in the FLE lessons can replicate the same reaction and confusion from young kids at schools as it did in this story:
https://www.tfp.org/how-one-drag-storybook-hour-protest-changed-mclean-virginia/


+1
So sad that the kids were confused and had no idea what the drag queen was talking about when she said her stuffed dog toy was actually a cat. WTAH? Why are some people intent on confusing and upsetting young children? Some parents left with their kids because they were so disgusted.