Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 19:31     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

There is a nationwide operator shortage. In part due to low pay, lack of full time hours and lack of benefits.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 18:17     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:DWI? How could an adult do that? I get addiction and desperation. But how does one fail to step up to responsibly for a busload of children? Take a desk job for God sake. Unconscionable


Vast majority of addicts aren’t exactly reasonable, practical people when in the throes of addiction. It’s horrible to think what could have happened to those kids.


If you think you can do a better job, please do

Hiring school bus driver is incredibly difficult. I am surprised they even had drivers willing to drive.


Seriously? Literally anyone could do better than hiring a defunct company with unlicensed drivers that doesn’t run background checks


Seriously! If safe companies/drivers can’t be hired….don’t go.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 18:02     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DWI? How could an adult do that? I get addiction and desperation. But how does one fail to step up to responsibly for a busload of children? Take a desk job for God sake. Unconscionable


Vast majority of addicts aren’t exactly reasonable, practical people when in the throes of addiction. It’s horrible to think what could have happened to those kids.


If you think you can do a better job, please do

Hiring school bus driver is incredibly difficult. I am surprised they even had drivers willing to drive.


Seriously? Literally anyone could do better than hiring a defunct company with unlicensed drivers that doesn’t run background checks
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 18:00     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I see the great wisdom now in our walking field trip to a local church “pumpkin patch” in town!


the Cox Farm fieldtrip is really miserable. As is the apple picking field trip.

People get stuck on these as “traditions” instead of realizing that kids would have just as much fun taking the Metro bus to the zoo.


Ha! My 9th grader at Jackson-Reed did just that today. She's sending me pics and having a blast.


Honestly I don't know which one I would be more nervous about. Lot of violence on Metro lately. Someone's kid could easily get attacked by random teen hoodlums or a mentally ill person


Kids take the metro every day, twice a day.


Kids also take school buses everyday…not sure what your point is? 44 kindergartners with 4 adults is not the same as some teens or younger kids with their parents
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 17:04     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 13:15     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DWI? How could an adult do that? I get addiction and desperation. But how does one fail to step up to responsibly for a busload of children? Take a desk job for God sake. Unconscionable


Vast majority of addicts aren’t exactly reasonable, practical people when in the throes of addiction. It’s horrible to think what could have happened to those kids.


If you think you can do a better job, please do

Hiring school bus driver is incredibly difficult. I am surprised they even had drivers willing to drive.


DP. Yes I think I can do better than hiring drivers with DUIs and no CDLs. I mean talk about low standards for DCPS …
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 12:35     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DWI? How could an adult do that? I get addiction and desperation. But how does one fail to step up to responsibly for a busload of children? Take a desk job for God sake. Unconscionable


Vast majority of addicts aren’t exactly reasonable, practical people when in the throes of addiction. It’s horrible to think what could have happened to those kids.


If you think you can do a better job, please do

Hiring school bus driver is incredibly difficult. I am surprised they even had drivers willing to drive.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2022 10:50     Subject: Re:Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:I bet DCPS picked bus companies with the lowest bids to be the approved bus companies for field trips. Unlikely they actually looked into safety and reliability issues.


I very much doubt it was the lowest bid, more like the owner is related to someone at central office
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:42     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:This is why you ALWAYS cross out the liability waiver from the field trip form, folks!!!


There is zero chance that clause will be upheld anyway, especially in a case like this where criminal negligence is involved.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:40     Subject: Re:Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:Posted DCPS policy:

Ground Transportation
Schools are responsible for the expense and contracting of ground transportation services. For ground transportation, schools should use a bus transportation vendor approved by the DCPS’ Contracts and Acquisitions team. For a current list of these vendors or questions about using travel vendors/education tour group companies for transportation needs, email dcpsoca.inquiries@dc.gov. Trip sponsors, with support from the principal and/or business manager or Director/Manager of Strategy and Logistics, will be responsible for all contractual arrangements.
Use of private vehicles for transportation to and/or from a field trip site is strictly prohibited. Use of ride-sharing services for transportation to and/or from a field trip site is strictly prohibited. Ground transportation is restricted to contracted buses and public transportation.


https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/Field%20Trip%20Policy.pdf


Employees have access to a list of approved providers, revised 12/3/2028. Rome Charters LLC is number 4 on the list. It’s also one of only 5 CBE companies meaning you can only contract with a non CBE company if a CBE is not available.

What is a CBE: https://dslbd.dc.gov/page/cbe-certification-frequently-asked-questions-faqs
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:37     Subject: Re:Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:From WTOP "School staff convinced Reynolds to follow another bus coming back from the field trip and pull over on Commercial Drive, in Chantilly, and they called 911, the police said."

So school staff didn't immediately demand that he get from being the wheel after hitting the rock/ running off the road?!
He was allowed to drive behind the bus?!


I read that as they convinced him to follow a bus to a safe location - a parking lot - to pull over. I would think the teachers wanted him to stop ASAP but safely as well. You don't want 44 kindergartners hanging out by the side of the road waiting for someone to come.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:37     Subject: Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

This is why you ALWAYS cross out the liability waiver from the field trip form, folks!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:35     Subject: Re:Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Anonymous wrote:Wow this makes me sick. My kid just went on that pumpkin farm trip a few weeks ago and I had to silence the part of me who didn't want her to ride the bus (she's tiny, in kindergarten) because I thought I was being overprotective. Next time I'll listen.


Oh I know that sick feeling! Do listen. I started to and it has been really helpful as my kids have grown. I actually did drive my own child to the pumpkin patch. While nothing terrible happened on the bus, one little one (not in my group) did get lost for 20 minutes or so. Glad I went.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:32     Subject: Re:Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

Posted DCPS policy:

Ground Transportation
Schools are responsible for the expense and contracting of ground transportation services. For ground transportation, schools should use a bus transportation vendor approved by the DCPS’ Contracts and Acquisitions team. For a current list of these vendors or questions about using travel vendors/education tour group companies for transportation needs, email dcpsoca.inquiries@dc.gov. Trip sponsors, with support from the principal and/or business manager or Director/Manager of Strategy and Logistics, will be responsible for all contractual arrangements.
Use of private vehicles for transportation to and/or from a field trip site is strictly prohibited. Use of ride-sharing services for transportation to and/or from a field trip site is strictly prohibited. Ground transportation is restricted to contracted buses and public transportation.


https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/Field%20Trip%20Policy.pdf
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2022 21:24     Subject: Re:Bus on Murch field trip crashes, kids hurt, bus driver charged with DUI

From WTOP "School staff convinced Reynolds to follow another bus coming back from the field trip and pull over on Commercial Drive, in Chantilly, and they called 911, the police said."

So school staff didn't immediately demand that he get from being the wheel after hitting the rock/ running off the road?!
He was allowed to drive behind the bus?!