Anonymous wrote:I'm not reading anything that says she is saying it is natural. Using the word "miracle" doesn't imply that. They probably have been trying a long time with a combo of her eggs, donor eggs, maybe they've explored adoption, who knows and the fact that they are now on the road to two babies is a miracle, even if was achieved using other eggs.

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Anonymous wrote:I know two “older” mothers that both had identical twins the old-fashioned way without fertility help. It absolutely happens.

The rate of identical twins with ART is much higher than natural conception. You never know with people if they aren't open about treatment.

This was my sister’s MIL and my SIL’s grandmother so we definitely know they didn’t have fertility treatments since none existed at the time.

Ok, but its still statistically very rare, your two anecdotes doesn't change anything.

So why can’t Hilary Swank be one of these cases?

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Honestly? She’s too thin. Surprise pregnancies at that age don’t happen to super skinny women. They just don’t.

You’re wrong, again.

I’m the PP who mentioned a friend who got pregnant with twins at age 45. She was also very thin — a runner — and she believed her period had stopped because of her low weight. Her doctor didn’t even do a pregnancy test because he didn’t believe she could pregnant.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched her interview on Good Morning America, and she never said it was a miracle or that twins run in her family.

I have had 3 pregnancies (two healthy kids and one termination), all over the age of 39. All conceived pretty quickly and naturally. So yes, some women are fertile well into their 40s and no, I am not a unicorn. I know lots of oops babies born to friends over 40, incl. one friend who just delivered her unplanned healthy 3rd child at age 46.

Huh i guess all those doctors don’t know what they are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I watched her interview on Good Morning America, and she never said it was a miracle or that twins run in her family.

I have had 3 pregnancies (two healthy kids and one termination), all over the age of 39. All conceived pretty quickly and naturally. So yes, some women are fertile well into their 40s and no, I am not a unicorn. I know lots of oops babies born to friends over 40, incl. one friend who just delivered her unplanned healthy 3rd child at age 46.

She didn’t say it in that interview, she said it in another interview - that it’s a “total miracle” and that twins run in her husband’s family. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hilary-swank-pregnant_n_633dfb6be4b04cf8f369cd9b/amp

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Anonymous wrote:I watched her interview on Good Morning America, and she never said it was a miracle or that twins run in her family.

I have had 3 pregnancies (two healthy kids and one termination), all over the age of 39. All conceived pretty quickly and naturally. So yes, some women are fertile well into their 40s and no, I am not a unicorn. I know lots of oops babies born to friends over 40, incl. one friend who just delivered her unplanned healthy 3rd child at age 46.

She didn’t say it in that interview, she said it in another interview - that it’s a “total miracle” and that twins run in her husband’s family. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hilary-swank-pregnant_n_633dfb6be4b04cf8f369cd9b/amp

Anonymous wrote:I watched her interview on Good Morning America, and she never said it was a miracle or that twins run in her family.

I have had 3 pregnancies (two healthy kids and one termination), all over the age of 39. All conceived pretty quickly and naturally. So yes, some women are fertile well into their 40s and no, I am not a unicorn. I know lots of oops babies born to friends over 40, incl. one friend who just delivered her unplanned healthy 3rd child at age 46.

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Anonymous wrote:She may have used her own frozen eggs but it’s almost 100% IVF. It’s a miracle indeed, of modern medicine.

This. It's no fluke of nature.

And, it's actually harmful to perpetuate a "miracle" if it's anything but.

+1000. I completely get not wanting to reveal exactly how you got pregnant - celebrities don't owe that to anyone. But what I do find irksome is perpetuating the myth that a woman in her late 40s would spontaneously get pregnant with healthy twins. We all know the statistics on this (i.e. < 5% at best). The reality is that she used donor eggs/embryo. Her own frozen eggs is possible but given that she's been married for four years already - seems unlikely that this pregnancy is a result of her own frozen eggs. This is why I really appreciated Marcia Cross when she got pregnant with twins at 44 a number of years ago - she didn't outright state she used donor eggs but she did state that that is how most women her age get pregnant.

Why did you need her to make that statement though? People can just say I’m pregnant and leave it at that. They’re not required to make a public statement why and how.

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Anonymous wrote:She may have used her own frozen eggs but it’s almost 100% IVF. It’s a miracle indeed, of modern medicine.

This. It's no fluke of nature.

And, it's actually harmful to perpetuate a "miracle" if it's anything but.

+1000. I completely get not wanting to reveal exactly how you got pregnant - celebrities don't owe that to anyone. But what I do find irksome is perpetuating the myth that a woman in her late 40s would spontaneously get pregnant with healthy twins. We all know the statistics on this (i.e. < 5% at best). The reality is that she used donor eggs/embryo. Her own frozen eggs is possible but given that she's been married for four years already - seems unlikely that this pregnancy is a result of her own frozen eggs. This is why I really appreciated Marcia Cross when she got pregnant with twins at 44 a number of years ago - she didn't outright state she used donor eggs but she did state that that is how most women her age get pregnant.

Anonymous wrote:I watched her interview on Good Morning America, and she never said it was a miracle or that twins run in her family.

I have had 3 pregnancies (two healthy kids and one termination), all over the age of 39. All conceived pretty quickly and naturally. So yes, some women are fertile well into their 40s and no, I am not a unicorn. I know lots of oops babies born to friends over 40, incl. one friend who just delivered her unplanned healthy 3rd child at age 46.

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Anonymous wrote:She may have used her own frozen eggs but it’s almost 100% IVF. It’s a miracle indeed, of modern medicine.

This. It's no fluke of nature.

And, it's actually harmful to perpetuate a "miracle" if it's anything but.

+1000. I completely get not wanting to reveal exactly how you got pregnant - celebrities don't owe that to anyone. But what I do find irksome is perpetuating the myth that a woman in her late 40s would spontaneously get pregnant with healthy twins. We all know the statistics on this (i.e. < 5% at best). The reality is that she used donor eggs/embryo. Her own frozen eggs is possible but given that she's been married for four years already - seems unlikely that this pregnancy is a result of her own frozen eggs. This is why I really appreciated Marcia Cross when she got pregnant with twins at 44 a number of years ago - she didn't outright state she used donor eggs but she did state that that is how most women her age get pregnant.

Anonymous wrote:What is the AARP is going through her mind?!

At 48? Seems selfish to me. If she'd really wanted kids, she had tons of years and resources to adopt some.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone remind me how she ended up somewhat blacklisted or not being heavily hired in Hollywood? Was it something to do with Chad Lowe my memory is failing me.

Based on her filmography it looks like she’s worked pretty consistently throughout her career. She was never known as a box office draw and wasn’t one to be on the cover of magazines/tabloids. Given Hollywood’s ageism against women, her resume’s not bad at all.

I'm with PP. Her filmography does not match that of a two-time winner of the Best Actress Oscar. She's the only one in this generation to have won that award twice and it puts her in some very esteemed company (Elizabeth Taylor, Bette Davis, Vivian Leigh, Jane Fonda, Sally Field, even Meryl Streep (although she got a 3rd Oscar in the Best Supporting category as well)). Hilary Swank won her second Oscar in 2004. Where has she been since then? It looks like she started producing her own films, most of which sound terrible and hover around 20%-40% on Rotten Tomatoes. Her Netflix show was canceled after one season. What gives?

Well, she’s not very good looking. I mean, she’s fine for a mom at school pickup but she’s not Hollywood pretty. So that cuts her out of like 90% of casting for female roles. Geez, even that psycho killer role went to gorgeous Charlize Theron who had o make herself ugly for it. She may actually do better in middle age or older because there are more “character” actor jobs for older women. I have a relative that was really unattractive who had good success as a old lady actress because that cast her as that crazy old lady character. I think she was just happy to work and had fun with it. There’s lots of roles like that men that are sort of odd looking but really not much for women.

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Anonymous wrote:I know two “older” mothers that both had identical twins the old-fashioned way without fertility help. It absolutely happens.

The rate of identical twins with ART is much higher than natural conception. You never know with people if they aren't open about treatment.

This was my sister’s MIL and my SIL’s grandmother so we definitely know they didn’t have fertility treatments since none existed at the time.

Ok, but its still statistically very rare, your two anecdotes doesn't change anything.

So why can’t Hilary Swank be one of these cases?

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Honestly? She’s too thin. Surprise pregnancies at that age don’t happen to super skinny women. They just don’t.

You’re wrong, again.