Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Jumping into a pool without knowing how to swim and then drowning is not “capital punishment”. Try again.
The person who was driving and killed Ned Gaylin might have a different view of the case. I don't know about you, but when I'm driving, I don't want to kill anybody, whether they stopped or didn't stop at a stop sign. If safety improvements reduce my chances of hitting or killing somebody, I'm all for them.
Was the person driving a state of Maryland official executioner?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
Don’t forget that the person who was killed was engaged in reckless behavior when he was struck. Nothing about the case showed the road design was flawed but planning staff lied when they discussed it with the board.
The person who was killed was Ned Gaylin, aged 81, who was engaged in the reckless behavior of riding his recumbent bicycle on a trail across an intersection where there had been warning signs with "dangerous intersection ahead" for years.
Also, it's well known that crosswalks across multiple lane roads, without stop signs or red lights for cars, are dangerous. There's even a term for it: "multiple threat". Plus state laws that specifically forbid drivers from passing who are drivers stopped for pedestrians in such crosswalks, because the law recognizes the existence of the multiple threat. I have asked the county for crosswalks in places like that, and the county has said no, it's too dangerous, because of the multiple threat. You bet that road design was flawed. Good for Parks for finally fixing it.
They “fixed it” years ago. Try again.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Jumping into a pool without knowing how to swim and then drowning is not “capital punishment”. Try again.
The person who was driving and killed Ned Gaylin might have a different view of the case. I don't know about you, but when I'm driving, I don't want to kill anybody, whether they stopped or didn't stop at a stop sign. If safety improvements reduce my chances of hitting or killing somebody, I'm all for them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Thanks for making the argument for why Idaho Stops are fundamentally bad law.
Eh? People on bikes who do what the Idaho Stop law allows (treating stop signs as yield signs) are not disobeying stop signs, they are engaging in behavior that is specifically allowed by the law. Just like people on pedestrians aren't disobeying stop signs, because stop signs don't apply to pedestrians.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Jumping into a pool without knowing how to swim and then drowning is not “capital punishment”. Try again.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
Don’t forget that the person who was killed was engaged in reckless behavior when he was struck. Nothing about the case showed the road design was flawed but planning staff lied when they discussed it with the board.
The person who was killed was Ned Gaylin, aged 81, who was engaged in the reckless behavior of riding his recumbent bicycle on a trail across an intersection where there had been warning signs with "dangerous intersection ahead" for years.
Also, it's well known that crosswalks across multiple lane roads, without stop signs or red lights for cars, are dangerous. There's even a term for it: "multiple threat". Plus state laws that specifically forbid drivers from passing who are drivers stopped for pedestrians in such crosswalks, because the law recognizes the existence of the multiple threat. I have asked the county for crosswalks in places like that, and the county has said no, it's too dangerous, because of the multiple threat. You bet that road design was flawed. Good for Parks for finally fixing it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Thanks for making the argument for why Idaho Stops are fundamentally bad law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
Don’t forget that the person who was killed was engaged in reckless behavior when he was struck. Nothing about the case showed the road design was flawed but planning staff lied when they discussed it with the board.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
We don't have instant capital punishment for people who disobey stop signs. If we did, 99% of drivers in Montgomery County would be dead. I say that as a driver.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
Don’t forget that the person who was killed was engaged in reckless behavior when he was struck. Nothing about the case showed the road design was flawed but planning staff lied when they discussed it with the board.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
They also died because they failed to heed stop signs on the trail and failed to yield crossing the road. They broke the law and unfortunately paid with their life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Kenwood wins. I don’t live there but need to drive there most weekdays and get stuck in traffic now like never before. I’m a liberal democrat and the county’s approach to roads is infuriating. Between this, Old Georgetown, and now Tuckerman, they are brazenly attempting to reshape the county roads without an actual plan of how this affects people day to day. Quite frustrating.
1. There actually are plans. Nobody just woke up one fine morning and said, You know what? Today is a great day to start repaving and restriping Old Georgetown Road!
2. When you consider "how this affects people day to day", please also include (a) people who are not driving and (b) people who were killed on those roads.
Stop the hyperbole. It’s so ridiculous and make you look silly. No one has ever been killed in a car accident or by any other means along Little Falls Parkway in the 3 decades I have lived here. There was one fatality at the intersection of Little Falls Parkway and the CCT, following which they reduced the lanes at that specific intersection and no one had died since.
So nobody has been killed on Little Falls Parkway, except for the person who was killed on Little Falls Parkway, but that's ok because nobody else has been killed on Little Falls Parkway since...
They were killed at the intersection with the trail not “along the parkway”.