Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 19:18     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
The mismanagement isn’t at the school level. I would never in a million years vote in favor of tax dollars funding religious schools instead of secular public education. Separation of church and state.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 19:11     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not interested in public funds to support religious schools.


I'd like to see kids get the best tax payer funded education they can, even if that winds up being at a religiously affiliated school.

If it has the side effect of an education that is more responsive to parent concerns all the better.

It shouldn't just be the wealthy who have their concerns addressed.


I doubt many privates would be willing to accept the requirements to receiving public money. I doubt they want to deal with 504s and IEPs.


I'd some kids can't get nice things, then nobody can?


No one is stopping you from going private


Money is.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 18:15     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not interested in public funds to support religious schools.


I'd like to see kids get the best tax payer funded education they can, even if that winds up being at a religiously affiliated school.

If it has the side effect of an education that is more responsive to parent concerns all the better.

It shouldn't just be the wealthy who have their concerns addressed.


I doubt many privates would be willing to accept the requirements to receiving public money. I doubt they want to deal with 504s and IEPs.


I'd some kids can't get nice things, then nobody can?


No one is stopping you from going private
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 17:21     Subject: Re:how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:It would be better to break up FCPS into four or five manageable public school districts than start handing out vouchers for parents to spend on private schools. However, since FCPS is huge and inefficient, and increasingly driven by a political agenda, it may be impossible to save it.

People have been pleading with FCPS to get its act together for years and get ignored. Now you have Youngkin wanting to blow it all apart. Congratulations.


FCPS used to be active in the boundary change process. Plus it [even in last 25 years] did administrative changes. Back in the late 1990's or early 2000's it had some years where the CIP showed contiguous schools on a spreadsheet per school...very obvious what could get moved. That stopped by politicians.

Meanwhile back in 1978 they would move stuff even if it was 1 kid but could represent a block of far more possible kids, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1978/02/02/fairfax-proposal-for-new-boundaries-affects-2400-pupils/723b4dcd-aab8-4fef-8e18-b04f2fe61cda/
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 16:52     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not interested in public funds to support religious schools.


I'd like to see kids get the best tax payer funded education they can, even if that winds up being at a religiously affiliated school.

If it has the side effect of an education that is more responsive to parent concerns all the better.

It shouldn't just be the wealthy who have their concerns addressed.


I doubt many privates would be willing to accept the requirements to receiving public money. I doubt they want to deal with 504s and IEPs.


I'd some kids can't get nice things, then nobody can?
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 16:41     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not interested in public funds to support religious schools.


I'd like to see kids get the best tax payer funded education they can, even if that winds up being at a religiously affiliated school.

If it has the side effect of an education that is more responsive to parent concerns all the better.

It shouldn't just be the wealthy who have their concerns addressed.


I doubt many privates would be willing to accept the requirements to receiving public money. I doubt they want to deal with 504s and IEPs.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 16:38     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:Not interested in public funds to support religious schools.


I'd like to see kids get the best tax payer funded education they can, even if that winds up being at a religiously affiliated school.

If it has the side effect of an education that is more responsive to parent concerns all the better.

It shouldn't just be the wealthy who have their concerns addressed.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 09:54     Subject: Re:how many trailers are acceptable?
It would be better to break up FCPS into four or five manageable public school districts than start handing out vouchers for parents to spend on private schools. However, since FCPS is huge and inefficient, and increasingly driven by a political agenda, it may be impossible to save it.

People have been pleading with FCPS to get its act together for years and get ignored. Now you have Youngkin wanting to blow it all apart. Congratulations.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 07:49     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Not interested in public funds to support religious schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2022 07:14     Subject: Re:how many trailers are acceptable?
Parents you are not going to get what you want. Instead you should vote to get School Choice on your ballots.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2022 22:41     Subject: Re:how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?


Great Falls has JIP but rumor has it that it is being phased out, they never got to the numbers to have 2 classes. What I have heard is that GFES is finishing out the current crop of JIP kids but has not added classes for the last few years. I know a fifth grader in JIP at GFES so I don't know when this started.

Fox Mill has 2 JIP classes and switch teachers mid way in the day. The classes start with 30 or more kids in first grade. DC is in fifth now and the classes are 19 and 22 kids. I don't know if we have an extra Teacher or not, the classes would be large enough to have 2 Teachers any way. We have 1 Teacher for Math/Science in Japanese and 1 Teacher for LA/Social Studies in English. I think the Gen Ed classes are smaller then usual in some of the grades, maybe that is where the extra Teacher is?


This is not correct. There is a 1st Grade JIP class at GFES this year.


Cool! It is a great program.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2022 20:22     Subject: Re:how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


9:43 here. JIP also used to be at Floris and is still at Great Falls. Either Fox Mill or Floris used to get additional staff beyond 1.5 to not drain reg ed teachers.
2 programs for the same language at adjacent schools is evidence of the random nature of where the program was installed. The merger
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2005/oct/12/japanese-program-moving/

Even at peak numbers pre Colvin Run the GFES JIP did not have the numbers pre merger. CRES did not want the JIP but it did open an AAP center. It seems that Fritsch might have stumbled upon an obvious solution for French with Dunn Loring. But that leaves FCPS with 2 French sites in the scope of things beng in the same area of the county?


Great Falls has JIP but rumor has it that it is being phased out, they never got to the numbers to have 2 classes. What I have heard is that GFES is finishing out the current crop of JIP kids but has not added classes for the last few years. I know a fifth grader in JIP at GFES so I don't know when this started.

Fox Mill has 2 JIP classes and switch teachers mid way in the day. The classes start with 30 or more kids in first grade. DC is in fifth now and the classes are 19 and 22 kids. I don't know if we have an extra Teacher or not, the classes would be large enough to have 2 Teachers any way. We have 1 Teacher for Math/Science in Japanese and 1 Teacher for LA/Social Studies in English. I think the Gen Ed classes are smaller then usual in some of the grades, maybe that is where the extra Teacher is?


This is not correct. There is a 1st Grade JIP class at GFES this year.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2022 20:09     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great Falls Elementary JIP- shows 3 teachers, 1 aid, 1 fles teacher. 3 teachers - each does a grade level am or pm.

Class size in JIP per grade? https://greatfallses.fcps.edu/academics/departments/japanese-immersion-program



I know that the JIP IA at Fox Mill works with the First Graders a lot and helps with some of the other classes when needed but spends most of their time with the younger grades. I would guess that 4 JI Instructors at GFES means that they have JI in grades 3-6 unless some of the Teachers are teaching math and science for 2 grade levels.


GFES has JIP starting in 1st grade.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2022 19:51     Subject: how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“We” is our community! Our school district. Everyone who lives in FCPS bounds is responsible to providing our kids a public school education. As per a recent PTA meeting, we have 168 kids in the grade plus specials teachers. I sat and listened to how the kids essentially only go into their school building for the cafeteria, bathrooms or gym. AND while I’m certain the principal and school staff are doing everything they can to make the best of the situation, it is these kids community that owe them, yes OWE them a properly functioning school. My youngest hasn’t even started elementary yet (oldest is already there). None of this will be solved on the current time line prior to either finishing high school!


Neat. Your kid is entitled to a class and a teacher. The teacher doesn’t have to be someone you like and approve of and the classroom doesn’t have to be in a permanent building.

Next!


But is the child entitled to a classroom free of mold? With a floor that does not have gaps to the ground below? To not have dead animals under the floor?
My portable has air conditioning but the walls and floors are really wavy - the carpenters did not replace the actual subfloor during mold mitigation so some of the tiles are the only floor there is. We can't hear the fire alarm - sometimes someone comes to the door to let us know there is a fire drill - but not always. My landline isn't connected either.
But it is a room and I am teacher so I guess its all good - right?

A trailer at our ES has the apron (plywood that runs around the bottom edge to cover the cement bocks holding the trailer up) falling down. Trailer is situated on the playground. The underneath is now accessible to students.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2022 22:33     Subject: Re:how many trailers are acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at Fox Mill and love the Japanese Immersion program. I have no problem with including out of boundary kids in the program but our school is not over crowded. The additional kids in the program help it stay viable. I know that some immersion programs are limited to people who are in boundary for that school and I think that is fine. If a specialized program is leading to over crowding then common sense says that you limit access to that program.


Does anyone know which is the case for German immersion?


The German immersion program is at Orange Hunt and there were 125 kids who lived outside the school's boundaries transferring in last year so it doesn't appear to limited to those in boundary for the school.

I think the school-based programs are generally for Spanish immersion.


Thanks. I wouldn't have known where to find that information. I was curious because it is a school that has an entire grade level plus some in "trailers".