Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's time for a smart and capable new U.S. president to figure out how to bring back the manufacturing jobs without upsetting the world economy.

The U.S. has always had smart and capable citizens. Folks who figured out how to overcome seemingly insurmountable problems. Over time, the government has been taken over by idiots who do more to harm the nation than any enemy nation could do to us. A prime example is not protecting American jobs.

When my grandfather returned from the Second World War, all the people who never would have had a change at college took the GI Bill and became engineers who helped to re-start the economy.

When my father returned from VietNam badly wounded, he took the GI Bill and a patchwork of student loans and became a primary care physician.

When my siblings and I went to college, my parents encouraged us to "follow our dreams." So my brother who would have been a fantastic engineer, makes bongs and torques at mortorcycles in my parents garage and never went to college. My sister who would have been a great physician like either of my parents got hooked on drugs in high school and took a three week course at a nursing home on how to be a bedside assistant. She has been fired from many nursing homes for stealing patient's drugs and now just lives with my parents so they can keep her alive. I got a early childhood certificate from a community college and work at a daycare.

I heard one of my aunts same to my mother: from blue collar to bums in two generations.

I think this is what happened to the US. We had many good people and then they stopped caring about studying hard, working hard, and just took the easy path to a mediocre life. Politicians are the same. We used to have geniuses running the country, now they are so/so people who have hung around too long the senior senators or congressional leaders from both parties. No one with brains wants to get into politics or run the country like the New Dealers who came to DC in the 1930s. All the smart people are following the money to corporate America. What would it be like if a few of those capable CEOs took over the country for a year or two? Can't we have a political president but someone smart to run the country? Something like the Brits who have the figurehead queen but a PM who generally is pretty smart.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

It was negotiated under Reagan and Bush and signed under Bush. Once part of the treaty, what was Clinton supposed to do?

+1 The greatest trick the Rs did was to pull the wool over the eyes of working class white enclaves. Rs do a great job of blaming Dems for sh1t they did.

NAFTA is the result of capitalism. It was the union that fought it.. you know, those groups that tend to back Dems.

I keep seeing this misinformation from white Rs. They are super clueless, and the R leadership know this.

I do wonder how old these people are that keep speaking this misinformation. I'm 52. My parents were blue collar workers who were impacted by their jobs moving to MX and China, during the 80s, when Rs were in power.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/north-american-free-trade-agreement.asp

The idea of a trade agreement actually goes back to Ronald Reagan's administration. While president, Reagan made good on a campaign promise to open up trade within North America by signing the Trade and Tariff Act in 1984.

Four years later, Reagan and the Canadian prime minister signed the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement.

NAFTA was actually negotiated by Bill Clinton's predecessor, George H.W. Bush, who decided he wanted to continue talks to open up trade with the U.S. Bush originally tried to generate an agreement between the U.S. and Mexico, but President Carlos Salinas de Gortari pushed for a trilateral deal between the three countries. After talks, Bush, Mulroney, and Salinas signed the deal in 1992, which went into effect two years later after Clinton was elected president.

Are your parents Republicans. Do you have as much disdain for them as you have for others without your privilege.

Do you have reading comprehension issues: " My parents were blue collar workers who were impacted by their jobs moving to MX and China, during the 80s, when Rs were in power."

What about that statement in quotes screams, "I'm privileged" to you?

I am stating a fact ^ up there. This is how NAFTA started. I recall Bush signing the deal. Oh, and I even voted for him.

I was a R back then. I grew up in a religious, conservative household. Oh, and I'm not white, and at one point, I think we had to go on food stamps. I went to a no-name state university and worked my way through college; drove a beatup used car that would die on the road every time I stepped on the brakes. I wore old, holey clothes, and ate terribly and was underweight.

What about that screams "privilege" to you?

I can state how R politicians pull the wool over people's eyes because it happened to me. I stopped being a R 20 years ago when I finally saw how pernicious they were during Bush jr administration. I didn't really follow politics, so I just voted the way most religious people voted. Never ever ever again.

I do not have a reading comprehension problem. Otherwise I would have seen where you stated that your parent were Republicans or Democrats. So the question still holds: Are your parents Republicans?

Oh poor you. Sorry that the D politicians who are skilled at pulling the wood over the eyes of people didn't do more for you. Now that you are privileged do you still vote for them so that they will help people as they helped you?

I think part of the problem is the tax code change regarding training. Companies can’t write it off - so this disincentivizes companies from selecting workers who stay because they can see a future even when wages start out low.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's time for a smart and capable new U.S. president to figure out how to bring back the manufacturing jobs without upsetting the world economy.

The U.S. has always had smart and capable citizens. Folks who figured out how to overcome seemingly insurmountable problems. Over time, the government has been taken over by idiots who do more to harm the nation than any enemy nation could do to us. A prime example is not protecting American jobs.

I agree with you, and I am the PP who supported NAFTA when it started.

I think the US became a victim of its own success. The expectation of NAFTA was supposed to spur exports which would increase jobs in the US. At the time, China was still coming out of the cultural revolution and hadn't opened up yet. When the NAFTA deal was signed, they didn't anticipate China taking over the manufacturing world.

But, even though political leaders saw this coming, they did nothing here because corporations of course loved the cheap labor.

This country's politics is driven by corporate money, and thanks to the Tea Party Rs in Citizens United vs Federal Elections, SCOTUS determined that corporate entities are "people", too, and they should be allowed to donate millions to political leaders.

The pandemic has shown us where the holes are in our economy. We can't rely on globalization for everything.

The Dems pushed a bill to provide incentives for domestic chip manufacturing. Only 24 Rs supported that bill. This type of partisan politics is not helping Americans.

If you want to "bring back the jobs", you are going to have to accept some regulation and rules by the US government, something Rs detest.

Executives here are compensated at stupid amounts; wages here are too high compared to China and MX. Those two things lends itself to manufacturing in cheap labor markets.

Executive pay in this country FAR exceeds any other country. The US is about greed and capitalism. That's why the manufacturing went to cheap countries. The US needs to have rules around executive pay, but that will never ever happen in the country of greed and capitalism. At the same time, those who say they support capitalism and no regulation scream about jobs going overseas.

Do you see the disconnect there? Until Rs see the disconnect, they wont be able to "bring back the jobs". This is why Trump also couldn't "bring back the jobs" large scale. Trump's rhetoric about bringing jobs back was full of hot air. The tax cuts he implemented did not result in jobs; they resulted in stock buybacks (I even stated this would happen.. anyone who's worked in the private sector for many years could've predicted that). Even Trump got mad at the companies for not using those tax cuts to hire Americans. Dems tried to negotiate into the tax cut bill that a certain % of tax savings must be used to hire Americans. Rs balked at that.

Rs aren't for the American worker. They are for capitalism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

It was negotiated under Reagan and Bush and signed under Bush. Once part of the treaty, what was Clinton supposed to do?

+1 The greatest trick the Rs did was to pull the wool over the eyes of working class white enclaves. Rs do a great job of blaming Dems for sh1t they did.

NAFTA is the result of capitalism. It was the union that fought it.. you know, those groups that tend to back Dems.

I keep seeing this misinformation from white Rs. They are super clueless, and the R leadership know this.

I do wonder how old these people are that keep speaking this misinformation. I'm 52. My parents were blue collar workers who were impacted by their jobs moving to MX and China, during the 80s, when Rs were in power.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/north-american-free-trade-agreement.asp

The idea of a trade agreement actually goes back to Ronald Reagan's administration. While president, Reagan made good on a campaign promise to open up trade within North America by signing the Trade and Tariff Act in 1984.

Four years later, Reagan and the Canadian prime minister signed the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement.

NAFTA was actually negotiated by Bill Clinton's predecessor, George H.W. Bush, who decided he wanted to continue talks to open up trade with the U.S. Bush originally tried to generate an agreement between the U.S. and Mexico, but President Carlos Salinas de Gortari pushed for a trilateral deal between the three countries. After talks, Bush, Mulroney, and Salinas signed the deal in 1992, which went into effect two years later after Clinton was elected president.

Are your parents Republicans. Do you have as much disdain for them as you have for others without your privilege.

Do you have reading comprehension issues: " My parents were blue collar workers who were impacted by their jobs moving to MX and China, during the 80s, when Rs were in power."

What about that statement in quotes screams, "I'm privileged" to you?

I am stating a fact ^ up there. This is how NAFTA started. I recall Bush signing the deal. Oh, and I even voted for him.

I was a R back then. I grew up in a religious, conservative household. Oh, and I'm not white, and at one point, I think we had to go on food stamps. I went to a no-name state university and worked my way through college; drove a beatup used car that would die on the road every time I stepped on the brakes. I wore old, holey clothes, and ate terribly and was underweight.

What about that screams "privilege" to you?

I can state how R politicians pull the wool over people's eyes because it happened to me. I stopped being a R 20 years ago when I finally saw how pernicious they were during Bush jr administration. I didn't really follow politics, so I just voted the way most religious people voted. Never ever ever again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

NAFTA happened in the 90s. These jobs were long gone by then. In my Western PA town, it was the early to mid 80s (you know, the Reagan years) that everything went away.

My god people, even after posting articles detailing when NAFTA started people are still peddling misinformation. Do these people deliberately close their eyes and ears.

PSA: NAFTA started with Reagan when he signed the deal with Canada first; then Bush SR signed with MX in '92 to start in '94, yes, when Clinton took over. But, IT WAS NOT STARTED BY DEMS!!! NAFTA WAS STARTED BY Rs.

I was a R back in the 80s/90s, and I was a full supporter of NAFTA when Bush (whom I voted for) signed it.

Maybe it's time for a smart and capable new U.S. president to figure out how to bring back the manufacturing jobs without upsetting the world economy.

The U.S. has always had smart and capable citizens. Folks who figured out how to overcome seemingly insurmountable problems. Over time, the government has been taken over by idiots who do more to harm the nation than any enemy nation could do to us. A prime example is not protecting American jobs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

It was negotiated under Reagan and Bush and signed under Bush. Once part of the treaty, what was Clinton supposed to do?

+1 The greatest trick the Rs did was to pull the wool over the eyes of working class white enclaves. Rs do a great job of blaming Dems for sh1t they did.

NAFTA is the result of capitalism. It was the union that fought it.. you know, those groups that tend to back Dems.

I keep seeing this misinformation from white Rs. They are super clueless, and the R leadership know this.

I do wonder how old these people are that keep speaking this misinformation. I'm 52. My parents were blue collar workers who were impacted by their jobs moving to MX and China, during the 80s, when Rs were in power.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/north-american-free-trade-agreement.asp

The idea of a trade agreement actually goes back to Ronald Reagan's administration. While president, Reagan made good on a campaign promise to open up trade within North America by signing the Trade and Tariff Act in 1984.

Four years later, Reagan and the Canadian prime minister signed the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement.

NAFTA was actually negotiated by Bill Clinton's predecessor, George H.W. Bush, who decided he wanted to continue talks to open up trade with the U.S. Bush originally tried to generate an agreement between the U.S. and Mexico, but President Carlos Salinas de Gortari pushed for a trilateral deal between the three countries. After talks, Bush, Mulroney, and Salinas signed the deal in 1992, which went into effect two years later after Clinton was elected president.

Are your parents Republicans. Do you have as much disdain for them as you have for others without your privilege.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

It was negotiated under Reagan and Bush and signed under Bush. Once part of the treaty, what was Clinton supposed to do?

+1 The greatest trick the Rs did was to pull the wool over the eyes of working class white enclaves. Rs do a great job of blaming Dems for sh1t they did.

NAFTA is the result of capitalism. It was the union that fought it.. you know, those groups that tend to back Dems.

I keep seeing this misinformation from white Rs. They are super clueless, and the R leadership know this.

I do wonder how old these people are that keep speaking this misinformation. I'm 52. My parents were blue collar workers who were impacted by their jobs moving to MX and China, during the 80s, when Rs were in power.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/north-american-free-trade-agreement.asp

The idea of a trade agreement actually goes back to Ronald Reagan's administration. While president, Reagan made good on a campaign promise to open up trade within North America by signing the Trade and Tariff Act in 1984.

Four years later, Reagan and the Canadian prime minister signed the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement.

NAFTA was actually negotiated by Bill Clinton's predecessor, George H.W. Bush, who decided he wanted to continue talks to open up trade with the U.S. Bush originally tried to generate an agreement between the U.S. and Mexico, but President Carlos Salinas de Gortari pushed for a trilateral deal between the three countries. After talks, Bush, Mulroney, and Salinas signed the deal in 1992, which went into effect two years later after Clinton was elected president.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

It was negotiated under Reagan and Bush and signed under Bush. Once part of the treaty, what was Clinton supposed to do?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the chamber of commerce for Allegany County:
https://alleganycountychamber.com/

They have two events this month including a crab feast and a networking happy hour. Check out their monthly newsletter.

Here's the same thing for Montgomery County:
https://www.mcccmd.com/

0 events in August, one legislative reception in September.

Tell me Cumberland isn't trying....

People in moco are rich and vacation in August

I'm a member of the MoCo chamber. They are pretty weak when it comes to events, and I"m not even sure why. We pay them enough in member fees!

The Allegany chamber listing almost makes me want to move there just for the events.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

NAFTA happened in the 90s. These jobs were long gone by then. In my Western PA town, it was the early to mid 80s (you know, the Reagan years) that everything went away.

Where did the everything go though? Mexico.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

NAFTA happened in the 90s. These jobs were long gone by then. In my Western PA town, it was the early to mid 80s (you know, the Reagan years) that everything went away.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They vote 70%+ Trump/Republican out there. See what all that love for Republican policies has done for them?

When I was growing up in Cumberland, it was solid Democratic. Then the Democrats shipped all the jobs from the United States and ruined Cumberland. Cumberland also see its taxes going to Democratic bastions like Baltimore.
The Democrats betrayed them, and they are voting for Republicans.

Here in the DMV land of milk and honey, the Democrats are popular because they provide all the social welfare benefits so that you can have low cost labor to build houses, take care of your kids, clean your houses, cut your grass, and keep you well isolated from those who do your cut work. Of course, you want the Democrats to stay in power.

The Democrats didn’t ship all their jobs away. Free market capitalism did. I also grew up in a similar town. Industry left because the owners of the factory wanted cheap labor to work in their factories.

OMG. PP is hysterical. It was called NAFTA and it was championed by Bill Clinton. I worked on his campaign, but I never did see where the positive was for the US. Maybe he thought it would make Mexico a more stable partner and reduce immigration here?

Anonymous wrote:Here's the chamber of commerce for Allegany County:
https://alleganycountychamber.com/

They have two events this month including a crab feast and a networking happy hour. Check out their monthly newsletter.

Here's the same thing for Montgomery County:
https://www.mcccmd.com/

0 events in August, one legislative reception in September.

Tell me Cumberland isn't trying....

People in moco are rich and vacation in August