Anonymous
Post 07/14/2022 11:07     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:Curious how many Pride girls stay


I hear Pride’s starting 11 were all offered a spot on Blue.


That sounds right. If the predicted makeup was 50% Pride and 50% BLC / Stars / Metro / others, that fits with last year.


CLC should have to pay these clubs a fee for poaching all there top players. Without these clubs developing players, CLC wouldn’t exist. You have to love free markets.


How is it poaching when Pride just started going to high school? Was it poaching when they decided to go through high school to begin with?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2022 10:33     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:The current Pride recruiting director is not working with the 2023s. Every girl on the team who got recruited did so completely on their own with zero support from the club. Time will tell whether they are able to improve their terrible recruiting record and the only thing that's certain is KMG will strip mine your bank account with little in return.


This is not true. Check the website. Losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning.


It shows 9 out of 46 girls commits for 2023s.
It shows 11 2022s commited.

So your point is?


The Pride website it always out of date. The 23 team now has 13 committed. Nothing great, but an improvement.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2022 09:56     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The current Pride recruiting director is not working with the 2023s. Every girl on the team who got recruited did so completely on their own with zero support from the club. Time will tell whether they are able to improve their terrible recruiting record and the only thing that's certain is KMG will strip mine your bank account with little in return.


This is not true. Check the website. Losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning.


It shows 9 out of 46 girls commits for 2023s.
It shows 11 2022s commited.

So your point is?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2022 09:48     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
Anonymous wrote:The current Pride recruiting director is not working with the 2023s. Every girl on the team who got recruited did so completely on their own with zero support from the club. Time will tell whether they are able to improve their terrible recruiting record and the only thing that's certain is KMG will strip mine your bank account with little in return.


This is not true. Check the website. Losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 19:52     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
The current Pride recruiting director is not working with the 2023s. Every girl on the team who got recruited did so completely on their own with zero support from the club. Time will tell whether they are able to improve their terrible recruiting record and the only thing that's certain is KMG will strip mine your bank account with little in return.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 19:42     Subject: Feedback on Capital tryouts
Anonymous wrote:^A lot of recruiting is moving to HS. At the very least, HS grades and test scores are very important for girls lacrosse recruitment at the top schools, which are also the most competitive in lacrosse. Keep in mind that it’s not a revenue sport. The colleges want to be competitive but also maintain admission standards.

A lot of M&D girls go to top privates like McDonough, Gilman, St Paul’s and Glenelg Country School, so I’m not sure what the issue is. But I suspect that a lot of poor recruiting outcomes come down to poor HS grades.



College coaches are NOT looking at high school lacrosse games/seasons in the DMV UNLESS it is private ( public schools in NY and NJ get college eyeballs). College coaches go to the top tournaments, and see girls at their camps period. Excellent club recruiters and respected staff matter. Public High school records don't matter unless the student is THE star of the show. Being on a winning public high school team doesnt necessarily mean anything to the college coaches. Grades and scores however do matter.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 19:40     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:The blue team will be half Stars and half Pride so not much riding there. Those girls could've not showed up and still would've made the roster. The orange team was what the tryout was for. Agree that it should've been spread out amongst a few days instead of just one. My older daughter played for Capital but it was nowhere this crazy or competitive as it is now. I think the 26 year may be the strongest in terms of how many talented girls there are in the DMV. 2024s, 2025s and 2027s are just different. Pockets of strong teams, but this year is LOADED. Haven't seen this much talent in awhile and and it is difficult for these girls to realize that if they don't make it, it doesn't mean they aren't a strong player. The DMV is too big to have one strong team. I blame the catiness of the middle school programs and the low skill development. All about the $$$$ Low turnover in Baltimore bc they stick together and are managed properly. It's a shame we can't have 2-3 ultra competitive teams in our area. Too much crazy and selfishness for that. Welcome to DC


Agreed 2026 is packed with talent. Heard a few girls that had left for Baltimore were back for Capital tryouts. Interesting to see if they will make the switch. I agree that this tryout was for the Orange team. The Orange team should be a great team considering the amount of talent at tryouts. The question will be will the girls who make Orange stay or go to Pride for that A team?


If they are serious about lacrosse they will go for Pride's A team. Even the Pride 25 A team that got decimated last year is much better than the CLC O 25 team. Who knows about the recruiting aspect? Pride has a new recruiting director, but time will tell if Pride does better on that front than previously.


The Pride 2025 Black team is #49 ranked. They have lost to several teams the CLC Orange 2025 has beat. The clubs ranked between 40 and 75 can beat each other depending on how the day goes, which players are present the quality of the goalies. So Pride Black is not necessarily better than CLC O. Plus down side to Pride is dealing with the KM crap. CLC placed 90% of its players last year in college programs. No other program places that number of girls at good schools. MCElite, Pride etc have no recruiting pipeline. Plus college coaches dont pick up the phone from KM.

On the other hand, if you look at the games Pride Black plays versus CLC Orange, it is easy to imagine college coaches being the Pride games against top competition instead of the CLC Orange games that are in lower brackets.

Putting wins, losses and rankings aside, if the goal is exposure you may more likely get that exposure with Pride than with CLC Orange. The CLC Orange recruiting is not too much to brag about in any case.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 19:29     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:The blue team will be half Stars and half Pride so not much riding there. Those girls could've not showed up and still would've made the roster. The orange team was what the tryout was for. Agree that it should've been spread out amongst a few days instead of just one. My older daughter played for Capital but it was nowhere this crazy or competitive as it is now. I think the 26 year may be the strongest in terms of how many talented girls there are in the DMV. 2024s, 2025s and 2027s are just different. Pockets of strong teams, but this year is LOADED. Haven't seen this much talent in awhile and and it is difficult for these girls to realize that if they don't make it, it doesn't mean they aren't a strong player. The DMV is too big to have one strong team. I blame the catiness of the middle school programs and the low skill development. All about the $$$$ Low turnover in Baltimore bc they stick together and are managed properly. It's a shame we can't have 2-3 ultra competitive teams in our area. Too much crazy and selfishness for that. Welcome to DC


Agreed 2026 is packed with talent. Heard a few girls that had left for Baltimore were back for Capital tryouts. Interesting to see if they will make the switch. I agree that this tryout was for the Orange team. The Orange team should be a great team considering the amount of talent at tryouts. The question will be will the girls who make Orange stay or go to Pride for that A team?


If they are serious about lacrosse they will go for Pride's A team. Even the Pride 25 A team that got decimated last year is much better than the CLC O 25 team. Who knows about the recruiting aspect? Pride has a new recruiting director, but time will tell if Pride does better on that front than previously.


The Pride 2025 Black team is #49 ranked. They have lost to several teams the CLC Orange 2025 has beat. The clubs ranked between 40 and 75 can beat each other depending on how the day goes, which players are present the quality of the goalies. So Pride Black is not necessarily better than CLC O. Plus down side to Pride is dealing with the KM crap. CLC placed 90% of its players last year in college programs. No other program places that number of girls at good schools. MCElite, Pride etc have no recruiting pipeline. Plus college coaches dont pick up the phone from KM.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 18:21     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t choose MCE or Pride A over CLC O. The remaining players on those teams will be much weaker…the best on those teams are accepting offers from CLC B and O. CLC’s reputation goes much further.


Based on experience I would not recommend this. Pride A is generally much higher ranked than Capital Orange. Capital Orange tends to be ranked in the 70-80 range, which translates into playing much weaker teams. Doesn’t mean you can’t get recruited, but you need to factor this into your recruiting plan. Pride A will play a much better schedule. It’s still too early to say how well Pride will do with recruiting. The club did not handle its 2023 class well but in the last week they have posted several commitments to NESCAC schools and one to USF. They also have several commits to service academies. Pride has a new recruiting director, so it will be interesting to see how they do with their 2024 class.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 17:53     Subject: Feedback on Capital tryouts
Sounds good in theory, but no one would sign up for that. Until Pride can send girls to Top 20 lacrosse and/or academic schools, they will continue to hemorrhage players to Capital plain and simple. That’s why people go to Capital, they want to play at a top University.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 17:21     Subject: Feedback on Capital tryouts
If CLC keeps taking 50%+ of Pride’s A team every year, Pride should get smart and start carrying 26-27 players, double the fees to $5K-$6K and make parents sign a $10K breakup fee option that is exercised only if their kid leaves and goes to CLC. Maybe this will stop the bleeding. For the last two years now, Pride Black kids have a 50% chance of making Capital Blue. Pretty good odds.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 16:58     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
I wouldn’t choose MCE or Pride A over CLC O. The remaining players on those teams will be much weaker…the best on those teams are accepting offers from CLC B and O. CLC’s reputation goes much further.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 16:46     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
I would choose the A team in every case. Whether the A team is amazing or not, the club is going to respect and value the A team more and that will trickle down in every thing. Doesn't matter what clubs we are discussing - choose the A club. Your team may not win every game, but you will get more backing.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 16:28     Subject: Feedback on Capital tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:Any 2026 turn down an orange team placement?


I am curious if anyone was specifically given an "alternate" offer? Or are they just making the way down the list? Not sure why anyone would turn down an Orange offer. Will be interesting to see what Pride girls will be left for tryouts on Thursday.


Last year multiple girls turned down CLC O offers. They went to Pride and MCE to be on their A team. I know of several girls who were waitlisted CLC O and eventually got an offer to join the team.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2022 15:57     Subject: Re:Feedback on Capital tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:Not saying the girls selected aren't incredible players - most (not all) are. Still, the girls were pre-selected prior to tryouts and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


Everyone on this board knew that the Blue team would be made up of Stars and Pride. They deserved it. Not sure what all the surprise and frustration is about. Everyone else there was trying out for Orange and they knew that.


Does CLC prefer Pride players? Every year they take more and more of them.


I would imagine every year will depend on the talent. 27 will be majority BLC. 28 will be something else etc. But Pride, Stars (for now at least) and BLC will always have some representation.

This is right. The Stars -> CLC connection is not the same as it once was with the sale to StJ. I’m not sure that the BLC -> CLC connection is worth much either. It’s about the players.