Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:39     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I attempted to read some of the objective reporting on the outcome, it really has bad implications for student free speech in general. While I did not read the trail transcripts or jury instruction, what I read indicates the verdict rests in large part on the school's support for the student senate and its failure to censor the student senate. I would think that would be of concern to all you that worry about how free speech is stifled by higher ed. Or is it just inflamatory conservative free speech you want to protect?

Attaching a bad motive to a school (or any person or institution) using its legal options to appeal and seek review is also questionable. But go ahead continue to think that you are the warriors defending free speech if it make you feel better.


You need to read more. The school took many actions to directly libel the bakery and cut off the school contract. and of course, there are no first amendment implications to the school *supporting* the student senate.


DP. You don’t believe in freedom of contract?


there’s something called “tortious interference with contract” and cancelling the contract is also evidence of malice in the defamation claim.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:37     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would really question the morals/values of anyone who has chosen to attend Oberlin since 2016.


Do you say the same about Penn State? About every single student who has attended Penn State since the sexual assault revelations and coverup there? If not: Hypocrite. Well? Dont forget--curse "anyone who has chosen to attend."


Not a valid comparison.

Is the school currently still trying to coverup? Oberlin is still actively doing this.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:36     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:I honestly hope this bankrupts Oberlin and they have to close. I’m not sure when progressives started believing they could do anything in the name of “justice.” Oberlin’s actions here did zero to help anyone. Not to mention they completely ruined the black kids arrested for shoplifting. Rich white kids get their petty crimes swept under the rug and never discussed again. Oberlin stupidly gave these boys a scarlet letter.


Come back with an update from reputable publicly available sources re: this scarlet letter, and try again.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:34     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:I would really question the morals/values of anyone who has chosen to attend Oberlin since 2016.


Do you say the same about Penn State? About every single student who has attended Penn State since the sexual assault revelations and coverup there? If not: Hypocrite. Well? Dont forget--curse "anyone who has chosen to attend."
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:32     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I attempted to read some of the objective reporting on the outcome, it really has bad implications for student free speech in general. While I did not read the trail transcripts or jury instruction, what I read indicates the verdict rests in large part on the school's support for the student senate and its failure to censor the student senate. I would think that would be of concern to all you that worry about how free speech is stifled by higher ed. Or is it just inflamatory conservative free speech you want to protect?

Attaching a bad motive to a school (or any person or institution) using its legal options to appeal and seek review is also questionable. But go ahead continue to think that you are the warriors defending free speech if it make you feel better.


You need to read more. The school took many actions to directly libel the bakery and cut off the school contract. and of course, there are no first amendment implications to the school *supporting* the student senate.


DP. You don’t believe in freedom of contract?
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:23     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:I attempted to read some of the objective reporting on the outcome, it really has bad implications for student free speech in general. While I did not read the trail transcripts or jury instruction, what I read indicates the verdict rests in large part on the school's support for the student senate and its failure to censor the student senate. I would think that would be of concern to all you that worry about how free speech is stifled by higher ed. Or is it just inflamatory conservative free speech you want to protect?

Attaching a bad motive to a school (or any person or institution) using its legal options to appeal and seek review is also questionable. But go ahead continue to think that you are the warriors defending free speech if it make you feel better.


You need to read more. The school took many actions to directly libel the bakery and cut off the school contract. and of course, there are no first amendment implications to the school *supporting* the student senate.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 13:20     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
I attempted to read some of the objective reporting on the outcome, it really has bad implications for student free speech in general. While I did not read the trail transcripts or jury instruction, what I read indicates the verdict rests in large part on the school's support for the student senate and its failure to censor the student senate. I would think that would be of concern to all you that worry about how free speech is stifled by higher ed. Or is it just inflamatory conservative free speech you want to protect?

Attaching a bad motive to a school (or any person or institution) using its legal options to appeal and seek review is also questionable. But go ahead continue to think that you are the warriors defending free speech if it make you feel better.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 12:58     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:I honestly hope this bankrupts Oberlin and they have to close. I’m not sure when progressives started believing they could do anything in the name of “justice.” Oberlin’s actions here did zero to help anyone. Not to mention they completely ruined the black kids arrested for shoplifting. Rich white kids get their petty crimes swept under the rug and never discussed again. Oberlin stupidly gave these boys a scarlet letter.


Do you know that for a fact? I'm not trying to sound snarky here, I'm genuinely curious. It's been about 6 years--what are they doing now?
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 12:55     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:I honestly hope this bankrupts Oberlin and they have to close. I’m not sure when progressives started believing they could do anything in the name of “justice.” Oberlin’s actions here did zero to help anyone. Not to mention they completely ruined the black kids arrested for shoplifting. Rich white kids get their petty crimes swept under the rug and never discussed again. Oberlin stupidly gave these boys a scarlet letter.


+1
Interesting how the school is doubling down. I guess no one ever taught them to admit their mistakes and apologize.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 12:53     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I find astounding is that anyone wanted to employ Raimondo after this appalling behavior. But I guess there are other schools out there on the same "mission."


She got a promotion when she moved to Oglethorp.


Scratching Oglethorpe off the list… not that it was ever considered to begin with.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 12:15     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
I honestly hope this bankrupts Oberlin and they have to close. I’m not sure when progressives started believing they could do anything in the name of “justice.” Oberlin’s actions here did zero to help anyone. Not to mention they completely ruined the black kids arrested for shoplifting. Rich white kids get their petty crimes swept under the rug and never discussed again. Oberlin stupidly gave these boys a scarlet letter.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 11:09     Subject: Re:Oberlin and defamation suit interest
So now they're thumbing their nose at the court too?

Did the insurance company refuse to pay?
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 10:53     Subject: Re:Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:Anyone read the piece written by the widow of the bakery owner? She makes the school look awful. Shame on them. They are a bunch of bullies.


Where is it published?
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 10:51     Subject: Oberlin and defamation suit interest
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:+1
This former prof’s opinion piece said it all:

https://www.commentary.org/articles/abraham-socher/o-oberlin-my-oberlin/



Also a Great Bari Weiss podcast on it came out today: https://www.honestlypod.com/podcast/episode/e765b3b3/oberlin-accused-the-gibsons-of-racism-now-it-owes-them-dollar36-million


I read that article yesterday and was disgusted at Raimondo. I can’t believe she wasn’t fired immediately and the school didn’t apologize. The school is at fault and the lawsuit and judgment was avoidable. I will listen to the podcast.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2022 09:29     Subject: Re:Oberlin and defamation suit interest
https://www.lawlion.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/UPDATED-FAQs-re-Gibsons-Bakery-v.-Oberlin-College.pdf

This document breaks down the legal argument very succinctly. Oberlin is wrong and needs to pay.