Anonymous
06/27/2022 23:21
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are Jews always so miserable?
It’s the IBS
Lol! We LOVE a good round of “I have it worse than you.” My grandma was legendary at that. “Oh you broke your foot? Well, my friend Miriam’s son broke every bone in his body. He’s in one of those full body casts. Be happy you’re not him.”
Anonymous
06/27/2022 23:13
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Why are Jews always so miserable?
It’s the IBS
Anonymous
06/27/2022 23:10
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:My mom converted at a reformed synagogue before I was born. She started the process by meeting with a rabbi that she felt comfortable with. He was very happy to walk her not only through the process, but address any questions or concerns. It was a in depth time consuming effort. By the time her conversion was complete, women in our temple would come to her with faith and tradition questions. We eventually joined a conservative temple. She never sensed any issues of acceptance nor did my brother and I at either temple.
That’s very nice. Be aware, though, that it’s Reform, not reformed.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:36
Subject: Jewish curious ….
My mom converted at a reformed synagogue before I was born. She started the process by meeting with a rabbi that she felt comfortable with. He was very happy to walk her not only through the process, but address any questions or concerns. It was a in depth time consuming effort. By the time her conversion was complete, women in our temple would come to her with faith and tradition questions. We eventually joined a conservative temple. She never sensed any issues of acceptance nor did my brother and I at either temple.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:18
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Why are Jews always so miserable?
Miserable? We’re far from miserable! Try eating matzoh ball soup and being miserable — it’s impossible!
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:16
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Why are Jews always so miserable?
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:15
Subject: Re:Jewish curious ….
OP, I would start with an intro to Judaism class, either at a synagogue or at the JCC. You can also visit different synagogues for Shabbat to see what movement you might fit into, if you're not already familiar with the differences.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:14
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:I converted in college when I was dating my Jewish boyfriend who became my husband. We adopted our 2 daughters from China; they "were converted" and are practicing Jews.
If I had read this thread first I would have run for the hills!
If a message board thread would have been enough to dissuade you from converting, then your level of commitment seems like it was pretty low.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:13
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:I converted in college when I was dating my Jewish boyfriend who became my husband. We adopted our 2 daughters from China; they "were converted" and are practicing Jews.
If I had read this thread first I would have run for the hills!
Ok.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:12
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m happy that people choose to convert.
I’m also very proud to have been born a Jew, and I will never apologize for it, nor will I allow people to act as though Jewish ethnicity is subjective or should be put in quotations.
It is an identity that has survived multiple genocides. Those genocides were as much or more about Jewish ethnicity than they were about Judaism the religion. Hitler didn’t care whether someone was practicing the religion. He killed based on ethnicity. The existence of a Jewish ethnic identity is a big reason why many Europeans did not see Jews as white for many hundreds of years.
I can be welcoming of converts to the religion and proud of my ethnicity at the same time.
Who is saying you shouldn't be proud of your ethnicity?
There is a difference between saying "I'm very proud to have been born a Jew," and "[Converts] are not part of the Jewish people, from an ethnic standpoint, and never can be." Just end your statement on the positive affirmation of yourself.
When people put ethnicity in quotes, they are minimizing it as a legitimate identity.
I am the PP who put it in quotes, but I clarified that I was objecting to the notion that “Jewish ethnic identity” = white, Ashkenazi Jewish identity. I do it dispute that the latter is an ethnic identity (I am married to one, whose entire family on one side was was killed in the Holocaust). I just reject the notion that this is the only way to be “ethnically Jewish” or Jewish.
So you’re married to a Jew, but you aren’t a Jew?
Stop goysplaining.
I am a Jew but not of Ashkenazi descent. No goysplaining here.
Fine — fair.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:03
Subject: Jewish curious ….
I converted in college when I was dating my Jewish boyfriend who became my husband. We adopted our 2 daughters from China; they "were converted" and are practicing Jews.
If I had read this thread first I would have run for the hills!
If I had read this thread first I would have run for the hills!
Anonymous
06/27/2022 22:02
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m happy that people choose to convert.
I’m also very proud to have been born a Jew, and I will never apologize for it, nor will I allow people to act as though Jewish ethnicity is subjective or should be put in quotations.
It is an identity that has survived multiple genocides. Those genocides were as much or more about Jewish ethnicity than they were about Judaism the religion. Hitler didn’t care whether someone was practicing the religion. He killed based on ethnicity. The existence of a Jewish ethnic identity is a big reason why many Europeans did not see Jews as white for many hundreds of years.
I can be welcoming of converts to the religion and proud of my ethnicity at the same time.
Who is saying you shouldn't be proud of your ethnicity?
There is a difference between saying "I'm very proud to have been born a Jew," and "[Converts] are not part of the Jewish people, from an ethnic standpoint, and never can be." Just end your statement on the positive affirmation of yourself.
When people put ethnicity in quotes, they are minimizing it as a legitimate identity.
I am the PP who put it in quotes, but I clarified that I was objecting to the notion that “Jewish ethnic identity” = white, Ashkenazi Jewish identity. I do it dispute that the latter is an ethnic identity (I am married to one, whose entire family on one side was was killed in the Holocaust). I just reject the notion that this is the only way to be “ethnically Jewish” or Jewish.
So you’re married to a Jew, but you aren’t a Jew?
Stop goysplaining.
I am a Jew but not of Ashkenazi descent. No goysplaining here.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 21:49
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Goys need to stay out of this thread, unless they’re asking questions of Jews.
The entire thread was a goy asking where to find out more about joining the Jewish faith. And you want to kick out people who are married to Jews? Is it okay for people who converted to respond to the OP? The question itself was simple and has been answered.
Converts are fine.
Goys goysplaining about Jewish identity are not fine.
The question itself is FAR from simple. The fact that you think that speaks to your ignorance. Jewish conversion is a complex process that is about as far from simple as I can think.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 21:45
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Anonymous wrote:Goys need to stay out of this thread, unless they’re asking questions of Jews.
The entire thread was a goy asking where to find out more about joining the Jewish faith. And you want to kick out people who are married to Jews? Is it okay for people who converted to respond to the OP? The question itself was simple and has been answered.
Anonymous
06/27/2022 21:40
Subject: Jewish curious ….
Goys need to stay out of this thread, unless they’re asking questions of Jews.