Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My husband and I have gone to the beach (Fenwick) for decades, and of course brought our kids when they were young. After my son and my daughter grew up and each got married, we've invited their families to join us each year. (We also include my husband's sister and her son, and my husband's mother while she was alive.) We sometimes invite friends, so we usually rent from one of three nice properties. We have good relationships with the owners of each property, and we enjoy the trip every year.
Apparently my son and his wife do not wish to do the beach trip next year--they already agreed to this year when DH and I reached out in January. They are sending us links for mountain resorts, and are offering to pay. DH and I would rather be at the beach, but DH does not have a lot of vacation time (he manages a pool company, so unfortunately little work from home opportunity from them, and summers are obviously quite busy). But I would hate to miss out on the opportunity to vacation with our grandkids.
Am I wrong to feel that this is a lot to process? We pay for lovely accommodations. I understand that DIL wants something different and is offering to pay, but I still kind of wonder why a free beach week is so awful and tradition needs to be changed.
OP your post is cringeworthy! First you start by saying your son and DIL but by the end you show nasty passive aggression with ‘I know my DIL’. Next you move onto whining about why your lovely accommodation is so awful. You know that no one said your beach rental is awful. Your SON just does not want to do the same trip year after year. For the trifecta, you go on about how you don’t have enough vacation time to do bth trips while never considering that your adult children don’t have unlimited vacation!
You are a very bad mother and MIL.
Anonymous wrote:My husband and I have gone to the beach (Fenwick) for decades, and of course brought our kids when they were young. After my son and my daughter grew up and each got married, we've invited their families to join us each year. (We also include my husband's sister and her son, and my husband's mother while she was alive.) We sometimes invite friends, so we usually rent from one of three nice properties. We have good relationships with the owners of each property, and we enjoy the trip every year.
Apparently my son and his wife do not wish to do the beach trip next year--they already agreed to this year when DH and I reached out in January. They are sending us links for mountain resorts, and are offering to pay. DH and I would rather be at the beach, but DH does not have a lot of vacation time (he manages a pool company, so unfortunately little work from home opportunity from them, and summers are obviously quite busy). But I would hate to miss out on the opportunity to vacation with our grandkids.
Am I wrong to feel that this is a lot to process? We pay for lovely accommodations. I understand that DIL wants something different and is offering to pay, but I still kind of wonder why a free beach week is so awful and tradition needs to be changed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are you all acting like them offering to pay is some big deal? They've been treated to free weeks at the beach for years. That's a significant cost, especially Fenwick. I don't think it's crazy of them to want to try something new, but yes of course they should be treating for once.
The other option is the son and daughter-in-law going to the mountains and not inviting OP. How do you not understand that going on multigeneration family vacations for decades is a big deal?
I don't think it would be bad for son and DIL to go on their own mountain vacation without inviting OP, at all. It's their vacation time to spend as they please. I don't think they are obligated to vacation with anyone, or to do the same thing every year if they don't want to.
I just don't get all the comments like OMG wow amazing they're offering to pay...well, yeah! They've been getting expense vacations from OP and her husband for years!
NP. I hope I am never in the position where I have my children pay for my vacation with them. That's just me...
Anonymous wrote:Just be happy DIL wants to vacation with you and be flexible. Going to the same place every year sucks.
Anonymous wrote:Your Son and/or DIL probably also have limited vacation time. It isn't "so awful" to be at the beach but they want some variety. Neither of you are wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Maybe they just want some variety or to try something new. We used to looooove going to Wildwood NJ but as our kids have aged out of making sandcastles we sometimes look into other things like a weekend in Philly, or Vermont or someplace mountain-y where we can do other activiites and enjoy cooler weather.
I would also consider whether they dislike your friends. [b]I would certainly not consider it a vacation if I had to keep my kids on "MIL's friends" level of attire and behavior the whole time. And if your friends are Trumpy or opinionated or insist on keeping the kids quiet, or they smoke or are in any way unpleasant, or stare at your DIL's boobs or tell racist jokes or whatever the problem is, that'll be a no-go. Vacation time is super scarce for most young families and they don't want to spend it doing things that are not enjoyable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are you all acting like them offering to pay is some big deal? They've been treated to free weeks at the beach for years. That's a significant cost, especially Fenwick. I don't think it's crazy of them to want to try something new, but yes of course they should be treating for once.
The other option is the son and daughter-in-law going to the mountains and not inviting OP. How do you not understand that going on multigeneration family vacations for decades is a big deal?
I don't think it would be bad for son and DIL to go on their own mountain vacation without inviting OP, at all. It's their vacation time to spend as they please. I don't think they are obligated to vacation with anyone, or to do the same thing every year if they don't want to.
I just don't get all the comments like OMG wow amazing they're offering to pay...well, yeah! They've been getting expense vacations from OP and her husband for years!
I am not super impressed that OP has paid all of these years. It was her way of keeping control and remaining the center of gravity in her family.
Um, last time I checked, adults old enough to be married and have kids always have free will. They could have said no or offered alternate plans at any time. I don't think they were wrong to accept the freebie vacations, but OP and her husband could not "control" anyone. They were always free to say, "Thank you for the kind offer, but we have other vacation plans this year." How is accepting someone's offer that person controlling you? Just decline. An invitation is not a summons.
Yes, they just declined with 1 year notice, and OP is STILL boohooing about her traditions and them shunning the beach. She knows exactly what she is doing.
She's working through her feelings and is asking DCUM for perspective. She has never had the power to make her son or his wife go on vacations. That's...not something anyone has the "control" to do.
She is trying to control through guilt and emotional manipulation. Just because it's possible to resist that form of control does not mean it isn't about control for OP.
This. No person can force another to remain married or live with them, either, but missions of people are unduly controlled in their domestic relationships.
The attempt at control is the odious action; it doesn't have to be successful to cause damage.
I'm so sorry, did I miss the part where OP and her husband literally control all of their son/DIL's finances, and verbally and physically abuse them, and threaten to take their kids away from them? Did I miss the part where OP was plotting to hide car keys so no one could drive away? Y'all are something else.
You're being obtuse for no real reason. The point is that many things short of chaining a person to a radiator fall under the penumbra of control. Your insistence that OP cannot control another person - because if you think about it, it's not possible for anyone to control anyone! - just makes it seem like you have no idea what words mean.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are you all acting like them offering to pay is some big deal? They've been treated to free weeks at the beach for years. That's a significant cost, especially Fenwick. I don't think it's crazy of them to want to try something new, but yes of course they should be treating for once.
The other option is the son and daughter-in-law going to the mountains and not inviting OP. How do you not understand that going on multigeneration family vacations for decades is a big deal?
I don't think it would be bad for son and DIL to go on their own mountain vacation without inviting OP, at all. It's their vacation time to spend as they please. I don't think they are obligated to vacation with anyone, or to do the same thing every year if they don't want to.
I just don't get all the comments like OMG wow amazing they're offering to pay...well, yeah! They've been getting expense vacations from OP and her husband for years!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are offering to pay. They are willing to include you. That's nice.
Do you get that not everyone adores the beach each and every year? After about two days of nonstop bugs and sand everywhere, I'm over it. I think a mountain resort sounds lovely. People like a change of pace. Not everyone like We Do This Tradition Every Year.
+1
I love the beach, but my redheaded children hate it because of the sun. Not everyone likes the same thing.
OP, your son and DIL are handling this very well and you should respond in kind, as a fellow adult. Also, FYI: You are not in charge. You are on equal footing with your adult children.