Anonymous
07/19/2022 21:15
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Who cares. Most good schools guide kids to the best school and program that is the best fit for the kid. Rarely is that an Ivy
Anonymous
07/19/2022 07:46
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Public schools, and not necessarily great ones. Times have changed.
That's the in vogue answer these days, but the publicly available numbers and the Naviance data I've seen for a few well-regarded public schools just don't bear that out (TJ notwithstanding).
Even TJ only sends the top kids to top colleges. There are many qualified students who probably would have matriculated to better colleges had they not attended TJ, but all public schools are capped and thus have raised standards. It’s a scam.
TJ likely will send fewer students to the Ivys now that wokeness and “equity” have replaced academic achievement in TJ’s application process.
Yep, that leaves the privates to sweep in and take all the good marticulation spots. However St. albans marticulation will also unfortunately likely be at odds, as that school historically has not arrived for “equity”.
Ivy presidents and their admissions deans are quite familiar with the fact that unlike other top DC privates, GDS was founded on social justice principles and has been a national DEI leader from its inception.
And they still have worse college marticulation than STA when accounting class size
GDS sets the pace in the “Big 3” in Harvard admissions. It’s been that way for some time.
Is that true even when adjusted for the size of the graduating class?
It very well may be, but STA takes the cake certainly with Yale and most other Ivy colleges. Not to mention Chicago, which is a T5 school and no school sends anything close to STA.
Indeed. Additionally, and many here may not think this is a big deal, but STA has sent an impressive number of boys to UNC on Morehead Scholarships. I know two of them who had gotten into Princeton and Yale and still took the UNC full ride.
Anonymous
07/17/2022 18:53
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Public schools, and not necessarily great ones. Times have changed.
That's the in vogue answer these days, but the publicly available numbers and the Naviance data I've seen for a few well-regarded public schools just don't bear that out (TJ notwithstanding).
Even TJ only sends the top kids to top colleges. There are many qualified students who probably would have matriculated to better colleges had they not attended TJ, but all public schools are capped and thus have raised standards. It’s a scam.
TJ likely will send fewer students to the Ivys now that wokeness and “equity” have replaced academic achievement in TJ’s application process.
Yep, that leaves the privates to sweep in and take all the good marticulation spots. However St. albans marticulation will also unfortunately likely be at odds, as that school historically has not arrived for “equity”.
Ivy presidents and their admissions deans are quite familiar with the fact that unlike other top DC privates, GDS was founded on social justice principles and has been a national DEI leader from its inception.
And they still have worse college marticulation than STA when accounting class size
GDS sets the pace in the “Big 3” in Harvard admissions. It’s been that way for some time.
Is that true even when adjusted for the size of the graduating class?
It very well may be, but STA takes the cake certainly with Yale and most other Ivy colleges. Not to mention Chicago, which is a T5 school and no school sends anything close to STA.
Anonymous
07/17/2022 11:54
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Public schools, and not necessarily great ones. Times have changed.
That's the in vogue answer these days, but the publicly available numbers and the Naviance data I've seen for a few well-regarded public schools just don't bear that out (TJ notwithstanding).
Even TJ only sends the top kids to top colleges. There are many qualified students who probably would have matriculated to better colleges had they not attended TJ, but all public schools are capped and thus have raised standards. It’s a scam.
TJ likely will send fewer students to the Ivys now that wokeness and “equity” have replaced academic achievement in TJ’s application process.
Yep, that leaves the privates to sweep in and take all the good marticulation spots. However St. albans marticulation will also unfortunately likely be at odds, as that school historically has not arrived for “equity”.
Ivy presidents and their admissions deans are quite familiar with the fact that unlike other top DC privates, GDS was founded on social justice principles and has been a national DEI leader from its inception.
And they still have worse college marticulation than STA when accounting class size
GDS sets the pace in the “Big 3” in Harvard admissions. It’s been that way for some time.
Is that true even when adjusted for the size of the graduating class?
Anonymous
07/17/2022 11:10
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The one with the most legacies and recruited athletes...duh![/quote]
Not anymore. It's URM, first-generation then athletes.
And if you’re a URM legacy and play a sport, the Ivy world is your oyster now.
Anonymous
07/17/2022 10:51
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:The one with the most legacies and recruited athletes...duh![/quote]
Not anymore. It's URM, first-generation then athletes.
Anonymous
07/17/2022 10:50
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Y'all make it sound like these types of hooks exist only at the private schools, when places like Whitman are sending plenty of legacies and recruited athletes to HYPS too.
Anonymous
07/17/2022 08:09
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In any given year, my guess is that Big 3 schools are sending at least 50 graduates to Ivy League schools.
I don't believe it is anywhere near that high.
I think talking about all schools together. Yes, probably close to 50 kids to Ivies in total - meaning add up all the kids that Sidwell, GDS, NCS and STA are sending and I bet it is close to 50 (figure 10 from NCS and STA respectively, and then 15 each from Sidwell and GDS). I see 15 on the GDS insta and assume that isn’t everyone.
I count 11 on the NCS page. STA doesn’t have a page but I have heard they are sending 5 to Yale alone. So math tracks to get to 50. And, no I have no idea who are sports recruits, legacy, etc. not making judgments about any schools or saying any of it matters. Only sharing data.
The STA Yale kids are not legacy or recruits. Just really impressive kids.
PP - you’re delusional if you think they’re no legacies in the bunch.
not PP, of course there are legacies in the bunch, but diminishing their impressive matriculation statistics and using the legacy argument as a cover up is equally delusional. whatever suits your boat i guess
Their "impressive matriculation statistics" go hand in hand with the various hooks. It is how the game is played.
Anonymous
07/17/2022 07:55
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Public schools, and not necessarily great ones. Times have changed.
That's the in vogue answer these days, but the publicly available numbers and the Naviance data I've seen for a few well-regarded public schools just don't bear that out (TJ notwithstanding).
Even TJ only sends the top kids to top colleges. There are many qualified students who probably would have matriculated to better colleges had they not attended TJ, but all public schools are capped and thus have raised standards. It’s a scam.
TJ likely will send fewer students to the Ivys now that wokeness and “equity” have replaced academic achievement in TJ’s application process.
Yep, that leaves the privates to sweep in and take all the good marticulation spots. However St. albans marticulation will also unfortunately likely be at odds, as that school historically has not arrived for “equity”.
Ivy presidents and their admissions deans are quite familiar with the fact that unlike other top DC privates, GDS was founded on social justice principles and has been a national DEI leader from its inception.
And they still have worse college marticulation than STA when accounting class size
GDS sets the pace in the “Big 3” in Harvard admissions. It’s been that way for some time.
STA sets the pace at Yale. Been that way for even longer.
Anonymous
07/16/2022 22:11
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Public schools, and not necessarily great ones. Times have changed.
That's the in vogue answer these days, but the publicly available numbers and the Naviance data I've seen for a few well-regarded public schools just don't bear that out (TJ notwithstanding).
Even TJ only sends the top kids to top colleges. There are many qualified students who probably would have matriculated to better colleges had they not attended TJ, but all public schools are capped and thus have raised standards. It’s a scam.
TJ likely will send fewer students to the Ivys now that wokeness and “equity” have replaced academic achievement in TJ’s application process.
Yep, that leaves the privates to sweep in and take all the good marticulation spots. However St. albans marticulation will also unfortunately likely be at odds, as that school historically has not arrived for “equity”.
Ivy presidents and their admissions deans are quite familiar with the fact that unlike other top DC privates, GDS was founded on social justice principles and has been a national DEI leader from its inception.
And they still have worse college marticulation than STA when accounting class size
GDS sets the pace in the “Big 3” in Harvard admissions. It’s been that way for some time.
Anonymous
07/16/2022 16:31
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
16/8* is a pretty good start. Will circle back when the bulletin fills in the Harvard’s, Princeton’s etc.
Anonymous
07/16/2022 02:29
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In any given year, my guess is that Big 3 schools are sending at least 50 graduates to Ivy League schools.
I don't believe it is anywhere near that high.
I think talking about all schools together. Yes, probably close to 50 kids to Ivies in total - meaning add up all the kids that Sidwell, GDS, NCS and STA are sending and I bet it is close to 50 (figure 10 from NCS and STA respectively, and then 15 each from Sidwell and GDS). I see 15 on the GDS insta and assume that isn’t everyone.
I count 11 on the NCS page. STA doesn’t have a page but I have heard they are sending 5 to Yale alone. So math tracks to get to 50. And, no I have no idea who are sports recruits, legacy, etc. not making judgments about any schools or saying any of it matters. Only sharing data.
The STA Yale kids are not legacy or recruits. Just really impressive kids.
PP - you’re delusional if you think they’re no legacies in the bunch.
I believe it is 1/5 that are legacy.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 23:09
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In any given year, my guess is that Big 3 schools are sending at least 50 graduates to Ivy League schools.
I don't believe it is anywhere near that high.
I think talking about all schools together. Yes, probably close to 50 kids to Ivies in total - meaning add up all the kids that Sidwell, GDS, NCS and STA are sending and I bet it is close to 50 (figure 10 from NCS and STA respectively, and then 15 each from Sidwell and GDS). I see 15 on the GDS insta and assume that isn’t everyone.
I count 11 on the NCS page. STA doesn’t have a page but I have heard they are sending 5 to Yale alone. So math tracks to get to 50. And, no I have no idea who are sports recruits, legacy, etc. not making judgments about any schools or saying any of it matters. Only sharing data.
The STA Yale kids are not legacy or recruits. Just really impressive kids.
PP - you’re delusional if you think they’re no legacies in the bunch.
not PP, of course there are legacies in the bunch, but diminishing their impressive matriculation statistics and using the legacy argument as a cover up is equally delusional. whatever suits your boat i guess
Anonymous
07/15/2022 23:00
Subject: Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In any given year, my guess is that Big 3 schools are sending at least 50 graduates to Ivy League schools.
I don't believe it is anywhere near that high.
I think talking about all schools together. Yes, probably close to 50 kids to Ivies in total - meaning add up all the kids that Sidwell, GDS, NCS and STA are sending and I bet it is close to 50 (figure 10 from NCS and STA respectively, and then 15 each from Sidwell and GDS). I see 15 on the GDS insta and assume that isn’t everyone.
I count 11 on the NCS page. STA doesn’t have a page but I have heard they are sending 5 to Yale alone. So math tracks to get to 50. And, no I have no idea who are sports recruits, legacy, etc. not making judgments about any schools or saying any of it matters. Only sharing data.
The STA Yale kids are not legacy or recruits. Just really impressive kids.
PP - you’re delusional if you think they’re no legacies in the bunch.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 22:00
Subject: Re:Best traction at the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:How many did they actually send PP?
5 to yale and 11 to Chicago.