Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
They didn't "let" him - he took down the post, apologized, and was suspended for a month without pay. Some people seem to be demanding a really disproportionate response to this.
And fine - don't work there! She got her wishes as far as that's concerned.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
[headdesk]
People really should read before they comment. I fear for the future.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
That tweet was lame, at best. If you get offended by weak crap like that, then I can’t imagine how you would be at a work happy hour.
Yeah, silly me being insulted by a nasty tweet. I guess the WaPo wouldn’t invite me into their old boys club.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
That tweet was lame, at best. If you get offended by weak crap like that, then I can’t imagine how you would be at a work happy hour.
Yeah, silly me being insulted by a nasty tweet. I guess the WaPo wouldn’t invite me into their old boys club.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
That tweet was lame, at best. If you get offended by weak crap like that, then I can’t imagine how you would be at a work happy hour.
The tweets and that he felt ok posting it says a lot about the workplace culture at WaPo. He knew he would ok.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting that this dude’s friends seem to have found this thread and don’t get that BOTH reporters look dumb here, and THE POST looks dumb. It’s embarrassing that she was using Twitter to go scorched earth; it’s embarrassing that he was using his professional account to tweet dumb “women be crazy” day jokes in 2022; it’s frustrating and depressing that ALL of “elite media twitter” can’t see how their use of twitter undermines their work and creates these meaningless echo chambers.
She had the firing coming and it’s good the Post is rid of her. But all the other things here are still true too.
+1 This.
The Post is a newspaper...they should at least have a basic understanding of optics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
That tweet was lame, at best. If you get offended by weak crap like that, then I can’t imagine how you would be at a work happy hour.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She acted crazy on Twitter. Coworkers shouldn’t be blasted online like that.
Um, you mean like the guy who wrote that all women are bipolar or bisexual? That guy who still has a job at the WaPo?
He got reprimanded, suspended, didn’t he? Did you want him to get fired for a stupid tweet?
You mean like she got fired for pointing out he made a stupid (misogynistic to be more accurate) tweet that insulted half of his coworkers? Collegiality my butt.
He literally didn’t make the tweet. And it was a bad dad joke that most sane people didn’t even care about.
Ok Wiegel. He shared the tweet. If I had done that in a public forum, my place of work would have fired him. And the dads I know don't talk about women in that way.
It's Weigel, not Wiegel. You work at a different place. He's not a dad.
The guy apologized, instantly, and was suspended without pay for a month. He is a good reporter who is usually goofy but not offensive on Twitter. I really don't see the possible justification for punishing him worse than this, over such a dumb thing.
I don't get why this poster is calling this a dad joke. Dad jokes are puns or corny humor. They're not insulting to half the population. Dads have daughters too.
I think maybe we are just going to disagree over how offensive the tweet was. I thought it was stupid, and offensive, but not burn it all down bad. I thought Weigel responded appropriately with his apology - and that a month's suspension without pay seemed extreme, but ok. You clearly see it as much worse than I did, and than many other people did. But there's a lot of you, too, so I have to acknowledge that as well.
I don't know. This whole thing just seemed to spiral out of control in a pretty crazy way.
I think you're used to a permissive work culture. I think many companies would have fired staff over that tweet--social media policies govern staff behavior and you're not supposed to do things publicly that make you/your employer look bad. Which is why I think it's awful that they fired the lady reporter...saying she had been criticizing other staff (i.e. making the WaPo look bad).
She was insubordinate. He wasn't. I think this is pretty clear. The workplace had devolved into chaos, and she kept making it worse - and they would never have any control whatsoever if she didn't face consequences.
I've worked places with permissive social media cultures and some without (I am freelance now but my last full time job forbade us from posting anything about politics at all on our personal social media, because we worked with a lot of lawmakers on both sides and it was thought that this could hurt our ability to do that if we expressed any thoughts about policies - that one was hard to abide during the Trump years, let me tell you).
"Insubordinate".Yet she persisted... I don't know about your workplace, but I wouldn't want to work somewhere that let a guy tweet like that about women.
That tweet was lame, at best. If you get offended by weak crap like that, then I can’t imagine how you would be at a work happy hour.
Anonymous wrote:He was suspended without pay for a month for *retweeting* a joke. She faced no repercussions for calling him out on it initially: it was her utter inability to drop it after his deletion, apology and suspension - after warnings from management that she needed to stop bullying her colleagues online.
The Post acted appropriately.