Anonymous
06/09/2022 12:04
Subject: Re:Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:The more money spent to fight homelessness, the more there will be. It’s that simple.
not if the money is for one way bus tickets
Anonymous
06/09/2022 12:01
Subject: Re:Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
There are two ways to deal with homelessness and mental health issues:
1. Criminalize them (the status quo in many places) OR
2. Spend money to provide housing (not shelters, HOUSING) and mental health services. Trying to treat mental illness while people are living on the street or in chaotic, unsafe shelters is a waste of time.
If Democrats are unwilling to do either of the above, voters will punish them as we have seen.
You cannot do Item 2 without the city becoming even more of a magnet to the addicted and/or mentally ill. In order to avail oneself of item 2, you should have to proof residency in DC of at least a year (and yes, I am aware that would be hard to do, but still should be a requirement). Otherwise, bus ticket it should be. It is not the responsibility of DC taxpayers to house and treat the nation's mentally ill.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 11:46
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
There are two ways to deal with homelessness and mental health issues:
1. Criminalize them (the status quo in many places) OR
2. Spend money to provide housing (not shelters, HOUSING) and mental health services. Trying to treat mental illness while people are living on the street or in chaotic, unsafe shelters is a waste of time.
If Democrats are unwilling to do either of the above, voters will punish them as we have seen.
1. Criminalize them (the status quo in many places) OR
2. Spend money to provide housing (not shelters, HOUSING) and mental health services. Trying to treat mental illness while people are living on the street or in chaotic, unsafe shelters is a waste of time.
If Democrats are unwilling to do either of the above, voters will punish them as we have seen.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 11:35
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm hoping my unhoused personal injury clients still have my business card. Now I can sue business owners for refusing entrance/service to the unhoused as well as property owners refusing to consider renting to them.
This is the future folks. It is now illegal in DC to deny a person who is caked in feces, erratically yelling and scaring off your paying customers from entering your establishment. You will also not be able to call the police to remove unruly homeless people from your establishment as trespassing.
Does anyone have any details on this!
Someone literally spewed their poorly imaginative 💩 on DCUM and now you're asking for details of their poorly imaginative 💩? I sure hope it's a Friday
One purpose of adding homelessness as a protected class is to protect the rights of the homeless to public accommodation. That includes commercial establishments such as hotels, restaurants, department stores, etc.
Some may think that’s a good thing. Others may not. But that is indeed the thing that’s happened.
Commercial establishments are for commerce. They only exist to serve PAYING customers. No pay, plus you harm revenue, GTFO. Period.
Does our City Council not understand this? I think it's funny that instead of building and managing day sheletrs, the Council has vans drop the homeless off at libraries every day and for the rest of the spillover is content to let Starbucks and Whole Foods provide the "services" they won't.
And it shouldn't be the job of DCPL to babysit the homeless either. Face it, many of the homeless don't just have a lack-of-housing issue, they have drug issues, mental health issues, etc. To deal with that, many of DC's homeless need 24h wraparound services. And, DC should start taking legal action against those who ship their homeless here. DC should not be the dumping grounds of the nation. And if I had my way, they shouldn't be given the choice, if they absolutely refuse drug treatment and rehab to be functional member of society again, bust them for those drugs and give them 3 hots and a cot in prison and mandatory program to get cleaned up of the illegal drug habit, either that or take them to a bus station and pay the fare to vacate themselves back home to where they came from or to a jurisdiction more amenable to their way of life.
There is a woman camped outside the Tenleytown metro station with one leg and garbage strewn everywhere. She has been there for days (weeks?) Rain, hot sun, the all of it. She 'owns' an entire corner. It does not look like a healthy lifestyle. Where is Freidnshop Place? Where is city shelter services? This city is NUTS.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 08:03
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Violence interrupters
My local violence interruptors have helped us immensely. They interrupted five violences in the past year
The police have helped us immensely also. They interrupted three violences in the past year. I'd we increase their budget by $5,000,000,000,000,000 then they will interrupt two more next year.
See how that one is not actually funny. The police did actually help interrupt violences back when we used to have the cops
WTF are you talking about? DC did not defund police.
In effect it did. Massive understaffing
Anonymous
06/09/2022 08:01
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm hoping my unhoused personal injury clients still have my business card. Now I can sue business owners for refusing entrance/service to the unhoused as well as property owners refusing to consider renting to them.
This is the future folks. It is now illegal in DC to deny a person who is caked in feces, erratically yelling and scaring off your paying customers from entering your establishment. You will also not be able to call the police to remove unruly homeless people from your establishment as trespassing.
Does anyone have any details on this!
Someone literally spewed their poorly imaginative 💩 on DCUM and now you're asking for details of their poorly imaginative 💩? I sure hope it's a Friday
One purpose of adding homelessness as a protected class is to protect the rights of the homeless to public accommodation. That includes commercial establishments such as hotels, restaurants, department stores, etc.
Some may think that’s a good thing. Others may not. But that is indeed the thing that’s happened.
Commercial establishments are for commerce. They only exist to serve PAYING customers. No pay, plus you harm revenue, GTFO. Period.
Does our City Council not understand this? I think it's funny that instead of building and managing day sheletrs, the Council has vans drop the homeless off at libraries every day and for the rest of the spillover is content to let Starbucks and Whole Foods provide the "services" they won't.
And it shouldn't be the job of DCPL to babysit the homeless either. Face it, many of the homeless don't just have a lack-of-housing issue, they have drug issues, mental health issues, etc. To deal with that, many of DC's homeless need 24h wraparound services. And, DC should start taking legal action against those who ship their homeless here. DC should not be the dumping grounds of the nation. And if I had my way, they shouldn't be given the choice, if they absolutely refuse drug treatment and rehab to be functional member of society again, bust them for those drugs and give them 3 hots and a cot in prison and mandatory program to get cleaned up of the illegal drug habit, either that or take them to a bus station and pay the fare to vacate themselves back home to where they came from or to a jurisdiction more amenable to their way of life.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:54
Subject: Re:Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
The more money spent to fight homelessness, the more there will be. It’s that simple.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:50
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm hoping my unhoused personal injury clients still have my business card. Now I can sue business owners for refusing entrance/service to the unhoused as well as property owners refusing to consider renting to them.
This is the future folks. It is now illegal in DC to deny a person who is caked in feces, erratically yelling and scaring off your paying customers from entering your establishment. You will also not be able to call the police to remove unruly homeless people from your establishment as trespassing.
Does anyone have any details on this!
Someone literally spewed their poorly imaginative 💩 on DCUM and now you're asking for details of their poorly imaginative 💩? I sure hope it's a Friday
One purpose of adding homelessness as a protected class is to protect the rights of the homeless to public accommodation. That includes commercial establishments such as hotels, restaurants, department stores, etc.
Some may think that’s a good thing. Others may not. But that is indeed the thing that’s happened.
Commercial establishments are for commerce. They only exist to serve PAYING customers. No pay, plus you harm revenue, GTFO. Period.
Does our City Council not understand this? I think it's funny that instead of building and managing day sheletrs, the Council has vans drop the homeless off at libraries every day and for the rest of the spillover is content to let Starbucks and Whole Foods provide the "services" they won't.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:47
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why DC attracts so many homeless, mentally ill, addicts and criminals?
Mental healthcare person here. I asked this when I started working in the field. It is a combination of huge income disparity in DC plus being the national capital makes the city a focus of a lot of people's mental illness. That said, I think the real criminals are the ones who sit on the Hill and do nothing about widespread public health problems (gun violence). But sure, let's get upset about the vulnerable disenfranchised!
You're not wrong, but the criminals who collect handsome salaries on the Hill aren't pushing me off my bike into traffic, yelling sexual slurs, or sh!tt!ng on the sidewalk, so that helps.
There are ways other than calling the gestapo. For example, a port-o-potty by an encampment isn't perfect, but reduces sidewalk poop by a lot. Make it a regularly cleaned port-o-potty and it's even more effective.
"We haven't tried anything and we're all out of ideas!"
Actually we have pretty much tried everything, with all of DC's lavish spending on homeless services, free housing and drug counseling. But most homeless people refuse to be helped because shelters come with rules like no drugs or violence.
The only thing DC hasn't tried yet is enforcing basic laws like no pooping on the sidewalk or shooting up in public. We might give it a try so the city becomes livable again for everyone.
If they don't want to comply with no-drugs rules, ship them out of state. A lot of them came here from elsewhere to begin with. Send them back home.
There is poop in pretty much every bus shelter. It really is a slap in the face to people who take buses to work, grocery shop, get to school etc.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:36
Subject: Re:Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Doesn't Eric Goulet (running for mary cheh's seat) have ideas about helping the homeless crisis?
Anyone know specifics?
Anyone know specifics?
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:30
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm hoping my unhoused personal injury clients still have my business card. Now I can sue business owners for refusing entrance/service to the unhoused as well as property owners refusing to consider renting to them.
This is the future folks. It is now illegal in DC to deny a person who is caked in feces, erratically yelling and scaring off your paying customers from entering your establishment. You will also not be able to call the police to remove unruly homeless people from your establishment as trespassing.
Does anyone have any details on this!
Someone literally spewed their poorly imaginative 💩 on DCUM and now you're asking for details of their poorly imaginative 💩? I sure hope it's a Friday
One purpose of adding homelessness as a protected class is to protect the rights of the homeless to public accommodation. That includes commercial establishments such as hotels, restaurants, department stores, etc.
Some may think that’s a good thing. Others may not. But that is indeed the thing that’s happened.
Commercial establishments are for commerce. They only exist to serve PAYING customers. No pay, plus you harm revenue, GTFO. Period.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:27
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nice deflection.
So, do you support the dark-money election of leftist prosecutors like Chesa Bodoin in San Francisco?
How about Kim Foxx in Chicago? Larry Krasner in Philadelphia?
LOL. Talk about deflections. Maybe you want to reread the topic of this thread which doesn't have anything to do with Chicago, San Francisco or Philadelphia. I don't live in any of those places so I don't really care who their DAs are. On the other hand, I am concerned about the dark money that helped put Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.
Meanwhile Chesa Boudin got recalled. The voting electorate even in cities as far left as San Francisco want safe, clean streets after all. That should be a learning lesson.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:23
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Violence interrupters
My local violence interruptors have helped us immensely. They interrupted five violences in the past year
The police have helped us immensely also. They interrupted three violences in the past year. I'd we increase their budget by $5,000,000,000,000,000 then they will interrupt two more next year.
See how that one is not actually funny. The police did actually help interrupt violences back when we used to have the cops
WTF are you talking about? DC did not defund police.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:20
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why DC attracts so many homeless, mentally ill, addicts and criminals?
Mental healthcare person here. I asked this when I started working in the field. It is a combination of huge income disparity in DC plus being the national capital makes the city a focus of a lot of people's mental illness. That said, I think the real criminals are the ones who sit on the Hill and do nothing about widespread public health problems (gun violence). But sure, let's get upset about the vulnerable disenfranchised!
You're not wrong, but the criminals who collect handsome salaries on the Hill aren't pushing me off my bike into traffic, yelling sexual slurs, or sh!tt!ng on the sidewalk, so that helps.
There are ways other than calling the gestapo. For example, a port-o-potty by an encampment isn't perfect, but reduces sidewalk poop by a lot. Make it a regularly cleaned port-o-potty and it's even more effective.
"We haven't tried anything and we're all out of ideas!"
Actually we have pretty much tried everything, with all of DC's lavish spending on homeless services, free housing and drug counseling. But most homeless people refuse to be helped because shelters come with rules like no drugs or violence.
The only thing DC hasn't tried yet is enforcing basic laws like no pooping on the sidewalk or shooting up in public. We might give it a try so the city becomes livable again for everyone.
If they don't want to comply with no-drugs rules, ship them out of state. A lot of them came here from elsewhere to begin with. Send them back home.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 07:17
Subject: Is there a solution for ending crime, homelessness & mental health crisis in DC?
Anonymous wrote:End Home Rule, bring in the Federales
Weak, useless federal prosecutors are already a big part of DC's crime problem.