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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.

York doesn't have a single practice group for kids under 13 that is five days a week. This year, the most you could swim is 3 days a week under 13. Next year they are adding 1 4 day a week practice gropu for 11-14 year olds. https://www.teamunify.com/RegGroupSelectOne.jsp?showonly=1®id=80262

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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.

York doesn't have a single practice group for kids under 13 that is five days a week. This year, the most you could swim is 3 days a week under 13. Next year they are adding 1 4 day a week practice gropu for 11-14 year olds. https://www.teamunify.com/RegGroupSelectOne.jsp?showonly=1®id=80262

Kids get invited up. Just cause it’s not on their website doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of kids doing it.

Anonymous wrote:No knock on York but the top 5 clubs at JOs have most 11/12 practicing a lot more than 3/week. I personally wish more clubs would go that way but most seem to require more time in the pool - particularly NCAP and RMSC, the very highest scorers. They are also rated very highly as clubs every year. Also, I have no background in swimming and presumably these coaches do.

(Also digging into the numbers, York’s points are mostly scored in the 10 and under category. My guess is those kids are practicing 3/week and that is largely the same as the other clubs. It is at 11/12 where things seem to ramp up around here. Not making a value judgment, more pointing out a complicated issue.)

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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.

It gets so much worse in high school. So many of the clubs require doubles during the school week.

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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.

York doesn't have a single practice group for kids under 13 that is five days a week. This year, the most you could swim is 3 days a week under 13. Next year they are adding 1 4 day a week practice gropu for 11-14 year olds. https://www.teamunify.com/RegGroupSelectOne.jsp?showonly=1®id=80262

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My kid too but these are not the kids most care about. It’s the kids who don’t practice with the team, only do meets and dominate the a meets.

I’ve posted this before, but our large team affirmatively asks the club kids to just continue practicing with their club to thin out the practices so that the kids who actually need coaching from the summer coaches get it. It is not just the club kids making the choice to not participate in the summer swim team practices.

Our large team is the opposite. Summer swim is fun because of the camaraderie and interactions. Having club swimmers NOT show is looked down upon.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to add that my winter swim DD just goes to club practice (not summer league practice) during the summer because it would be too much!! Club practice is 4x week already, 1-1.5 hours each. She will go to all the social events and participate in all the meets. She misses hanging out with her friends who practice in the summer swim team, but we told her she cannot do both....lol

Mine too and we are at a club with little lane space and a large team. Practices would not be enhanced by having all the teenage club swimmers there. A friend with B swimmers has noted that B swimmers may swim less in the meets, but they more than get their money's worth if they attend practices. With a good number of 12 & up swimmers swimming club and only attending summer practices rarely, the non-club swimmers get better instruction.

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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.

York doesn't have a single practice group for kids under 13 that is five days a week. This year, the most you could swim is 3 days a week under 13. Next year they are adding 1 4 day a week practice gropu for 11-14 year olds. https://www.teamunify.com/RegGroupSelectOne.jsp?showonly=1®id=80262

Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to add that my winter swim DD just goes to club practice (not summer league practice) during the summer because it would be too much!! Club practice is 4x week already, 1-1.5 hours each. She will go to all the social events and participate in all the meets. She misses hanging out with her friends who practice in the summer swim team, but we told her she cannot do both....lol

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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.

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Anonymous wrote:On the whole the number of days you swim depends on several factors. MOST kids should swim two days a week (or less) until age 10. This is when you move up to three days a week and in some clubs four days.

Most reputable clubs will not allow a kid under the age of 13 to swim more than that. Yes, some kids want to but they would be better served by cross training the other days. The reason for this is overuse injuries. There is a strong correlation of early intense training and shoulder injuries with swimmers.

You will see certain clubs push kids into more training way to early. Clubs that benefit significantly on the days in the water you are signed up for - push too early. Besides injuries there is more chance of burnout.

Swimming should be considered a life long sport with intense training starting in high school.

This is NOT true.

Fwiw, the “reputable” clubs in the area absolutely push the faster kids into 5 practices a week at 11/12. Either 6th or 7th grade, and sometimes late 5th. I can’t think of one club that has kids compete at JOs who doesn’t do this.