Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD at SLAC notices it's the wealthy and URM first-gen students. The latter not for say fine arts, but Sociology, English, etc.

'

I don't understand what you are saying.

The wealthy legacy types, as well as lower income URM students, are the vast majority of the English department.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Whose getting that!?!

Starting salary at most consulting firms like Bain, McKinsey and Accenture is above $100k plus joining bonus.

One of these things is not like the other.

NP. I can confirm that the starting offers from Accenture are >$100K + joining bonus these days.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

To make much money with a liberal arts degree, you probably have to get some kind of graduate level degree on top of it. So, if you view undergrad as a vocational school, you probably want to confine yourself to a business or STEM degree. If you view education as something central to living a fulfilling life with value, then you can take a broader view of the matter.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

To make much money with a liberal arts degree, you probably have to get some kind of graduate level degree on top of it. So, if you view undergrad as a vocational school, you probably want to confine yourself to a business or STEM degree. If you view education as something central to living a fulfilling life with value, then you can take a broader view of the matter.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Yup. Way better than having to do 8-10 years of med school, residency etc to get $150k in primary care or pediatrics.

You have no idea what you're saying. My DC1 is in med school. First, a pediatrician in DC area makes around 300k base salary to start. 180K is base pay first year in Podank, Nebraska and those positions are filled by foreign residents with med school outside US. People get into pediatrics because the schedule is wonderful and they don't work 40 hours/week, so it's very family friendly if you are a parent. In addition, pediatric centers are not owned by private equity but by the doctors. So you make good money as a business owner too. The work is meaningful- instead of staying in a room full of wire and people coding aimlessly for mostly useless purposes, you nurture life. If you no longer want to practice, you have a miriade of other job opportunities- research, insurance, biotech companies, FDA etc. If you get satisfaction from this, virtually all people respect doctors and are happy to have one in the neighborhood. As a doctor, you get special financing for a lot of things, including real estate. If you are a business owner, you get to structure your own profit sharing. If you work in the hospital, even PT, the hospital will pay your student loans and professional insurance. Being a doctor is way way above 99.9% of any CS jobs, in terms of intellect, prestige, and income - MIT grad here.

This has to be a joke! No pediatrician makes 300k base starting out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Yeah, most history majors aren't getting into Harvard Law School. But *most* (not ALL) CS majors are doing pretty well right out of the gate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!

MYY History degree got me into Harvard Law School.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Yup. Way better than having to do 8-10 years of med school, residency etc to get $150k in primary care or pediatrics.

You have no idea what you're saying. My DC1 is in med school. First, a pediatrician in DC area makes around 300k base salary to start. 180K is base pay first year in Podank, Nebraska and those positions are filled by foreign residents with med school outside US. People get into pediatrics because the schedule is wonderful and they don't work 40 hours/week, so it's very family friendly if you are a parent. In addition, pediatric centers are not owned by private equity but by the doctors. So you make good money as a business owner too. The work is meaningful- instead of staying in a room full of wire and people coding aimlessly for mostly useless purposes, you nurture life. If you no longer want to practice, you have a miriade of other job opportunities- research, insurance, biotech companies, FDA etc. If you get satisfaction from this, virtually all people respect doctors and are happy to have one in the neighborhood. As a doctor, you get special financing for a lot of things, including real estate. If you are a business owner, you get to structure your own profit sharing. If you work in the hospital, even PT, the hospital will pay your student loans and professional insurance. Being a doctor is way way above 99.9% of any CS jobs, in terms of intellect, prestige, and income - MIT grad here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Whose getting that!?!

Starting salary at most consulting firms like Bain, McKinsey and Accenture is above $100k plus joining bonus.

One of these things is not like the other.

Anonymous wrote:If anybody I knew growing up was majoring in English or History, it was with an education certification added on. They were onto something!