as a person who grew up hating ND, it was hard for me to admit that the ND of today really blows the GU of today out of the water. From tour, to student experience, to outcomes, to the power of the alumni .. it's ND's moment

Most people can’t afford it and prefer the state publics.

Because familiarity breeds contempt.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there’s hatred per se. But parents of high school seniors probably remember the Georgetown of the 80s and 90s when it was very much the It school - NCAA basketball champions, featured in movies like St Elmo’s Fire, an era when journalism and foreign affairs mattered, foreign dignitaries like the future king of Jordan attended, the political connections with Kennedys and Clintons, and so on.

And Georgetown today doesn’t have that magic touch. So people pile on the weaknesses - terrible endowment, the rise of STEM as a cultural thing, where Georgetown has no role, rats and some problems with infrastructure bc of weak endowment, poor financial aid, some disdain for the rich that subsequently do attend, some anti-Catholicism, no meaningful basketball for decades. And it’s too close to home to have much mystique. Georgetown the neighborhood hasn’t been “cool” in decades.

But it’s still a fine school. The real lesson is don’t let Jesuits manage money for 250 years. They’re good at a lot of things, but not that.

+10. Thanks for summing it up and I’m a Georgetown fan.

I don’t think there’s hatred per se. But parents of high school seniors probably remember the Georgetown of the 80s and 90s when it was very much the It school - NCAA basketball champions, featured in movies like St Elmo’s Fire, an era when journalism and foreign affairs mattered, foreign dignitaries like the future king of Jordan attended, the political connections with Kennedys and Clintons, and so on.

And Georgetown today doesn’t have that magic touch. So people pile on the weaknesses - terrible endowment, the rise of STEM as a cultural thing, where Georgetown has no role, rats and some problems with infrastructure bc of weak endowment, poor financial aid, some disdain for the rich that subsequently do attend, some anti-Catholicism, no meaningful basketball for decades. And it’s too close to home to have much mystique. Georgetown the neighborhood hasn’t been “cool” in decades.

But it’s still a fine school. The real lesson is don’t let Jesuits manage money for 250 years. They’re good at a lot of things, but not that.

My kid is a rising junior and loves it there.

To each their own.

I just hated how disgusting and in poor shape most of the institution is in. Transferred after a year, because the environment was very transactional.

My kid is signed up for a summer program at G-town and the univ has been VERY hard to deal with. If this is the same for the actual students, I can see why people hate on them. It's been a turnoff for us for sure; DC will not be applying.

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Anonymous wrote:The rats and the rundown facilities. Why is living with rats acceptable for that amount of tuition?

Aren't there issues in all dorms? I think there was even a death from mold at UMD some years ago.
And recently Howard U had students sleeping in tents to protest dorm infestations.

No, there was a death from adneovirus infection at UMD. Totally unrealted to mold, though members of the public have had trouble keeping that straight from the mold they did have in dorms.

Ah, my apologies!

No, it was both - response to adenovirus AND mold.

There were many news articles about this. Here's one -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/08/11/olivia-paregol-family-sues-university-of-maryland/

Anonymous wrote:My opinion? I don't like religiously-affiliated institutions.

In my personal opinion, I don’t like secular schools. Too much indoctrination and bigotry teachings 🤷‍♂️

^ probably the mom whose legacy daughter was denied and she spewed all kinds of insults about the interviewer being gay and attacked the school.

Whenever I see the posts that follow this pattern, as per another post earlier this week, I think it is the same hater who was not admitted to a host of schools.

Pattern (for those who missed it, but are probably familiar, at this point):
Post disingenuous thread question. Get a few responses. Post additional question that looks like it is piggybacking on the first, but opens doors for criticism of the school. The same people chime in about their negative thoughts and opinions. Far fetched opinions and false claims start trickling in. A few people chime in to tell the negative posters why they know their false claims to be false.

It becomes more obvious that the negative posters know less and less about the actual facts and goings on about the school. Negative posters start asking for facts. Sane posters back away slowly from the same old post about the same school, by the same people.

OP and friends pretend to be a young person chiming in, adding ridiculous statements (a reflection of their "personality", or lack of, as a grown adult). Sane posters start questioning why the admin allows such posting.

OP and friends do their predictable turn, and claims that there is "marketing" or "boosters", which tells you something about OPs sanity (ie: lack of). OP and friends persist with their false claims. OP continues to wonder why people are questioning their absurd thread. Repeat.

Phase two (since phase one is clearly not achieving the results OP wanted): Gaslight about who started the thread, and which party is which. Add loopholes so that OP/friends roles are changed, except they are inconsistent and give themselves away. (OP now commences to scour their thread to determine where they went wrong).

Same old, same old. There are a few other "pet" schools that get the same treatment. Such posts are adversely affecting the integrity of the College Forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't get it. I have a grad degree from Georgetown and got a good education there. I'm not some huge booster or anything, but I'm glad I went.

The one that really confuses me is the people who always compare Georgetown and Notre Dame for the express purpose of putting down Georgetown. I don't get why they can't both be worthwhile schools? It's not like there can only be one Jesuit school. I'm not Catholic but this one always confounds me.

1. ND is Holy Cross, not Jesuit

2. The reverse is also true -- GU boosters bashing ND, likely because ND always higher on the USNWR rankings.

ND is just obnoxious. They think they walk on water.

+1. Which is especially interesting because ND's URM percentage and social mobility indices are so low.

ND = T20

GT = T30

Delusion.

Anonymous wrote:Because it sucks.

I smell a Hoya reject...

Anonymous wrote:Yo the majority of gtown alums don’t like gtown

It’s a means to an end.

Nothing more.

lies. lies. lies.