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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to be a terrible person and link their youtube accounts but there are at least two female YouTubers who claim to have been /FGLI admits. Both are at top schools. They live in massive houses in wealthy areas.

If they're on YouTube, they're public figures and eager for views. So go ahead and post them.

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Anonymous wrote:Pathological liars playing the system. Wow just wow. Insightful read.

It’s Way Too Easy for Privileged Kids to Fake Being Working Class

Being a first-generation, low-income student has been an eye-opening experience—not least in finding out how many of my FGLI peers are actually children of privilege.

I am a first-generation, low-income student at Brown University. Like, actually first-generation and low-income. Not in the appropriated “Let me check off a box indicating a minority status that doesn’t describe me so that I’ll get special consideration in admissions” way, but in the “My school’s annual tuition is over seven times what my mother makes in a year” way. Far less glamorous, I know, but at least it’s real.

During my college application cycle, I watched classmates “joke” about lying to admissions officers about how their parents never received a college education while writing from the comfort of their $1.5 million dollar homes about their “experiences” with financial troubles. If anything was poor here, it wasn’t their financial status.

While a suspicious number of self-proclaimed first-generation, low-income students spent time horseback riding in high school...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/enough-with-other-college-students-fraudulently-claiming-my-identity

I'm going to be critical of the author and this clickbait article. The article is based on "jokes." The author has no evidence that these kids were actually lying in their apps. The article refers to definitions of FGLI status at these institutions, but that reference doesn't make sense - there is no "low income" or "first gen" box on these colleges' applications. There is only the Common App parent section, which asks details about education and employment.

(On another note, her high school, as an institution, wasn't exactly a bad one if her high school classmates were rich kids)

Did you miss the part about how the Brown definition of “first gen” is actually allows kids to self-define as first gen, even if their parents went to college, if they “self-identify as not having prior exposure to or knowledge of navigating higher institutions such as Brown who may need additional resources.” She quoted Cornell’s definition, which is similar.

My parents both have degrees from a second tier state university in the South and I could absolutely have answered that question “yes” with a straight face. I didn’t even bother to apply to the Ivy League because I knew my parents couldn’t have afforded the extra expense of traveling to the NE, etc.

It is Brown’s right to extend this “hook” to anyone they want, but it is definitely not what most people are envisioning when they read that X% admitted were “first gen.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pathological liars playing the system. Wow just wow. Insightful read.

It’s Way Too Easy for Privileged Kids to Fake Being Working Class

Being a first-generation, low-income student has been an eye-opening experience—not least in finding out how many of my FGLI peers are actually children of privilege.

I am a first-generation, low-income student at Brown University. Like, actually first-generation and low-income. Not in the appropriated “Let me check off a box indicating a minority status that doesn’t describe me so that I’ll get special consideration in admissions” way, but in the “My school’s annual tuition is over seven times what my mother makes in a year” way. Far less glamorous, I know, but at least it’s real.

During my college application cycle, I watched classmates “joke” about lying to admissions officers about how their parents never received a college education while writing from the comfort of their $1.5 million dollar homes about their “experiences” with financial troubles. If anything was poor here, it wasn’t their financial status.

While a suspicious number of self-proclaimed first-generation, low-income students spent time horseback riding in high school...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/enough-with-other-college-students-fraudulently-claiming-my-identity

I'm going to be critical of the author and this clickbait article. The article is based on "jokes." The author has no evidence that these kids were actually lying in their apps. The article refers to definitions of FGLI status at these institutions, but that reference doesn't make sense - there is no "low income" or "first gen" box on these colleges' applications. There is only the Common App parent section, which asks details about education and employment.

(On another note, her high school, as an institution, wasn't exactly a bad one if her high school classmates were rich kids)

Did you miss the part about how the Brown definition of “first gen” is actually allows kids to self-define as first gen, even if their parents went to college, if they “self-identify as not having prior exposure to or knowledge of navigating higher institutions such as Brown who may need additional resources.” She quoted Cornell’s definition, which is similar.

My parents both have degrees from a second tier state university in the South and I could absolutely have answered that question “yes” with a straight face. I didn’t even bother to apply to the Ivy League because I knew my parents couldn’t have afforded the extra expense of traveling to the NE, etc.

It is Brown’s right to extend this “hook” to anyone they want, but it is definitely not what most people are envisioning when they read that X% admitted were “first gen.”

Anonymous wrote:I don't want to be a terrible person and link their youtube accounts but there are at least two female YouTubers who claim to have been /FGLI admits. Both are at top schools. They live in massive houses in wealthy areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Family friends living in CA come from generational wealth and have never worked much as adults. However, their property is all in the names of their parents, so their kids got full "need-based" rides to Stanford.

If they have modest incomes, assets, and a modest primary residence, do you really think that the colleges should not give them financial aid because the grandparents are loaded? Should we demand all grandparents’ info. on the FASFA? A lot of people hold onto their money until death, and even then there’s a decent chance that a ton of it will go in other directions than to their children.

Anonymous wrote:I don't want to be a terrible person and link their youtube accounts but there are at least two female YouTubers who claim to have been /FGLI admits. Both are at top schools. They live in massive houses in wealthy areas.

Anonymous wrote:Family friends living in CA come from generational wealth and have never worked much as adults. However, their property is all in the names of their parents, so their kids got full "need-based" rides to Stanford.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pathological liars playing the system. Wow just wow. Insightful read.

It’s Way Too Easy for Privileged Kids to Fake Being Working Class

Being a first-generation, low-income student has been an eye-opening experience—not least in finding out how many of my FGLI peers are actually children of privilege.

I am a first-generation, low-income student at Brown University. Like, actually first-generation and low-income. Not in the appropriated “Let me check off a box indicating a minority status that doesn’t describe me so that I’ll get special consideration in admissions” way, but in the “My school’s annual tuition is over seven times what my mother makes in a year” way. Far less glamorous, I know, but at least it’s real.

During my college application cycle, I watched classmates “joke” about lying to admissions officers about how their parents never received a college education while writing from the comfort of their $1.5 million dollar homes about their “experiences” with financial troubles. If anything was poor here, it wasn’t their financial status.

While a suspicious number of self-proclaimed first-generation, low-income students spent time horseback riding in high school...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/enough-with-other-college-students-fraudulently-claiming-my-identity

I'm going to be critical of the author and this clickbait article. The article is based on "jokes." The author has no evidence that these kids were actually lying in their apps. The article refers to definitions of FGLI status at these institutions, but that reference doesn't make sense - there is no "low income" or "first gen" box on these colleges' applications. There is only the Common App parent section, which asks details about education and employment.

(On another note, her high school, as an institution, wasn't exactly a bad one if her high school classmates were rich kids)

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason to believe that applicants across the board don’t lie to the same extent? Any reason to think Rich, upper middle class, middle class and lower financial class lie to a greater or lesser degree? About activities, personal history? I don’t doubt at all that there are scammers applying to colleges, but I don’t have any reason to think scamming is reserved to a particular economic group. his

Anonymous wrote:Saying to a low income student that you understand her experience because you're "NYC low income" is stupid and cringe-inducing but it's not the same as being admitted to college as a low income student. I think people are conflating the two.

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Anonymous wrote:I am Ashkenazi Jewish and my husband is a non Jew - can my kids state they are multi racial?

Is your husband a POC? Ashkenazi Jewish = white.

- signed Jew of Color.

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Anonymous wrote:Dovetails on Princeton claiming 70% of their freshman class are "non-white" minorities. Rich liars playing the system.

Really! Hate to predict their size of endowment 10 years from now. First gen or URM are not likely to be billionaires after getting their degrees. Who will pay?

You sure about that? A lot of tech billionaires are first generation.

Haha no.