Anonymous wrote:Dating anyone with kids is a non-starter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
What rotting fruit did this responder crawl out from under?
It's wrong for a 17 year old to ask for perfume as a present?
Refusing to help a kid get domiciled after college graduation? Additionally, it was a loan, not a freebie?
What kind of parent is this?
They can ask for whatever they want but sn expensive perfume is ridiculous especially for a 17. That would likely be on the pay for it in part with money from your job savings or if you got good grades. Etc The bigger issue is at 30+ years old pp and people like her still thinks she was wronged by not getting this perfume. She's projecting her issues onto op. Not fair to op. Spoiling your kids does nothing but make them rotten.
You should try reading again. PP said she was considered bratty for wanting it.
My suspicion is that PP’s mom would have gotten her the perfume, or at least considered it. Then her mom passes away and suddenly she has a stepmother telling her dad how much to spend on her.
I actually doubt it. I think mom probably was the one to reign things in but since she's passed pp doesn't recall that instead she's transferred all her anger at her mother's passing and her only living parent to her stepmother
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
What rotting fruit did this responder crawl out from under?
It's wrong for a 17 year old to ask for perfume as a present?
Refusing to help a kid get domiciled after college graduation? Additionally, it was a loan, not a freebie?
What kind of parent is this?
They can ask for whatever they want but sn expensive perfume is ridiculous especially for a 17. That would likely be on the pay for it in part with money from your job savings or if you got good grades. Etc The bigger issue is at 30+ years old pp and people like her still thinks she was wronged by not getting this perfume. She's projecting her issues onto op. Not fair to op. Spoiling your kids does nothing but make them rotten.
You should try reading again. PP said she was considered bratty for wanting it.
My suspicion is that PP’s mom would have gotten her the perfume, or at least considered it. Then her mom passes away and suddenly she has a stepmother telling her dad how much to spend on her.
I actually doubt it. I think mom probably was the one to reign things in but since she's passed pp doesn't recall that instead she's transferred all her anger at her mother's passing and her only living parent to her stepmother
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
What rotting fruit did this responder crawl out from under?
It's wrong for a 17 year old to ask for perfume as a present?
Refusing to help a kid get domiciled after college graduation? Additionally, it was a loan, not a freebie?
What kind of parent is this?
They can ask for whatever they want but sn expensive perfume is ridiculous especially for a 17. That would likely be on the pay for it in part with money from your job savings or if you got good grades. Etc The bigger issue is at 30+ years old pp and people like her still thinks she was wronged by not getting this perfume. She's projecting her issues onto op. Not fair to op. Spoiling your kids does nothing but make them rotten.
You should try reading again. PP said she was considered bratty for wanting it.
My suspicion is that PP’s mom would have gotten her the perfume, or at least considered it. Then her mom passes away and suddenly she has a stepmother telling her dad how much to spend on her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yea it sucks. My 21yo stepdaughter does hardcore drugs and porn. People help her get real jobs and apprenticeships, and she gets fired every time because she takes tons of mental health days. H does and says nothing because he wants her to feel “comfortable” telling him.
I just make sure none of my money goes to her and keep separate finances.
I would flip if H tried to comment on my parenting, tho. He knows to say nothing other than “you’re a fantastic mom!” lol
How is porn not a real job? Judgmental much?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
I am not the PP
So the girlfriend is "right"? And what did that get her?
A husband who had to go against his daughters birthday wishes and a step daughter who was hurt but an overstepping woman.
Gee, good thing she was "right" because she certainly had no interest in being a warm and loving person in her step daughters life. Nope, it was more important for her to be "right".
And this, folks, is why people generally stink at having healthy relationships. Because it's more important for them to be "right".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
What rotting fruit did this responder crawl out from under?
It's wrong for a 17 year old to ask for perfume as a present?
Refusing to help a kid get domiciled after college graduation? Additionally, it was a loan, not a freebie?
What kind of parent is this?
They can ask for whatever they want but sn expensive perfume is ridiculous especially for a 17. That would likely be on the pay for it in part with money from your job savings or if you got good grades. Etc The bigger issue is at 30+ years old pp and people like her still thinks she was wronged by not getting this perfume. She's projecting her issues onto op. Not fair to op. Spoiling your kids does nothing but make them rotten.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
What rotting fruit did this responder crawl out from under?
It's wrong for a 17 year old to ask for perfume as a present?
Refusing to help a kid get domiciled after college graduation? Additionally, it was a loan, not a freebie?
What kind of parent is this?
They can ask for whatever they want but sn expensive perfume is ridiculous especially for a 17. That would likely be on the pay for it in part with money from your job savings or if you got good grades. Etc The bigger issue is at 30+ years old pp and people like her still thinks she was wronged by not getting this perfume. She's projecting her issues onto op. Not fair to op. Spoiling your kids does nothing but make them rotten.
Anonymous wrote:If you are not happy, move on. Their relationship isn’t going to change, trying to control it is only going to creat drama and end it in an ugly manner. It’s not just her that you find annoying, it’s how he responds to her needs is what you find annoying. He doesn’t approve of your parenting and you find him distasteful, he unconditionally supports his daughter and you find it annoying.
Anonymous wrote:Based on your original post OP, you are negatively affected both in small and large ways by your BF coddling his adult daughter.
This will not change. Ever. It will continue throughout her life, it will eventually encompass any children she has, and your BF will continue his behavior until he dies.
The best thing you can do is disengage from anything and everything to do with her. You can read up about disengagement tactics.
The most important thing is do not announce that you are disengaging - just slowly but surely extricate yourself from any dealings with BF/daughter's relationship.
If your BF wants to talk about her or her problems/demands, change the subject, make a non-committal remark (Mmm hmm... or... Oh that's too bad.) or else leave the room and go to the bathroom.
If there is a visit or activity planned with daughter, find an excuse to get out of it. Say you have to work, you're sick, a friend is sick, whatever. Don't attend.
Before long you should find your relationship is better for disengagement. You won't know about what is given to daughter because you don't ask and you don't let him tell you. Thus, your resentment is quelled.
Then you may find you have more clarity about how YOU are being treated separately from the daughter issue. If you find that you've disengaged from anything to do with his daughter, yet after some time BF feels he still can criticize your kids then I'd take him to task on that.
This is the only thing that has worked in my case.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.
What rotting fruit did this responder crawl out from under?
It's wrong for a 17 year old to ask for perfume as a present?
Refusing to help a kid get domiciled after college graduation? Additionally, it was a loan, not a freebie?
What kind of parent is this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know, OP. It could be him/her, or it could be you. I am extremely wary of women who dislike their partner’s daughters.
My mother died when I was a teen. My dad threw himself into dating, and would take the advice and modify his lifestyle to suit each new woman. Many of them seemed to view me as competition, some kind of useless leech about whom they needed to “show” my dad the truth.
Here are some things my dad’s girlfriends viewed as “bratty”, “clingy”, and generally unreasonable:
1. Wanting to be allowed to have a high school graduation party (small, just a few friends, and we were studious, well-behaved kids) at home.
2. Asking my dad for a bottle of perfume for my 17th birthday (my dad was financially comfortable and the perfume was expensive for perfume; my dad’s girlfriend ranted and raved about how a girl my age had no business with something like that, and SHE was happy with the Body Shop when she was my age. Also, this was months after my mom’s death).
3. Wanting my dad to come to my college graduation. He didn’t, finally, because she “needed” him to help her pick out a new car.
4. Asking if I could live at home until I had saved a down payment for an apartment. This would have taken a few months because I had a job lined up after graduation. The answer was ultimately no.
5. Asking my dad to LEND me a down payment for my first apartment right after college. I had a job lined up but nowhere to go from the dorms and no money for a down payment. He ultimately refused, after much talk with his girlfriend who said I needed to “learn to make it” on my own. The story of how I lived for a few months until I got a down payment makes me so angry for my 22 year old self.
Sorry, but I have learned that women are naturally distrustful of a partner’s daughter, and they never, ever view the partner’s daughter they way they would their own child.
This is called projecting. See a therapist. She was absolutely correct about #2 and #5. . And your dad agreed to these things. His choice he was a grown man. So you should be mad at him too.