Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand adults that think their parents should stay married for the sake of the adult kids. So selfish. Yes, life may be harder, splitting holidays is no fun; it may be upsetting to realize your parents aren’t happy, but seriously, people deserve an opportunity to live the end of their lives as they see fit. Mind you, parents that choose the divorce have no business guilting their kids about sharing holidays, or however else they are negatively affected by the divorce; it’s a two way street.
Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand adults that think their parents should stay married for the sake of the adult kids. So selfish. Yes, life may be harder, splitting holidays is no fun; it may be upsetting to realize your parents aren’t happy, but seriously, people deserve an opportunity to live the end of their lives as they see fit. Mind you, parents that choose the divorce have no business guilting their kids about sharing holidays, or however else they are negatively affected by the divorce; it’s a two way street.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm five years out from my divorce, my kids were 15 and 21 at the time - now I am past the emotional roller-coaster my ex and I went through (and inevitably put them through) I have reason to believe they see us both happier than when we were married, and they see us getting along better apart than we ever did married. The ex and I live a mile apart and we agreed he gets Thanksgiving and I get Christmas, so holidays don't cause the hassle they would otherwise cause. All in all, it was a gauntlet that we all got through and learned from the experience.
So what's your plan for holidays when your children have significant others? Because it won't be you get every Christmas and your ex-husband gets every Thanksgiving. Sorry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm five years out from my divorce, my kids were 15 and 21 at the time - now I am past the emotional roller-coaster my ex and I went through (and inevitably put them through) I have reason to believe they see us both happier than when we were married, and they see us getting along better apart than we ever did married. The ex and I live a mile apart and we agreed he gets Thanksgiving and I get Christmas, so holidays don't cause the hassle they would otherwise cause. All in all, it was a gauntlet that we all got through and learned from the experience.
So what's your plan for holidays when your children have significant others? Because it won't be you get every Christmas and your ex-husband gets every Thanksgiving. Sorry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Self-centered are the parents who divorced while expecting that they won’t shoulder any of the inconvenience. A lot of these so-called parents could use a dose of shut up. That’s not being a martyr. That’s an adult child sick of listening to their parents’ childish whining.
Yes, because it certainly is not an inconvenience for the parents to go through the huge changes that divorce brings into their lives (who you live with, where you live, the finances
etc etc + divorces tend to be emotionally difficult even when they're 'easy'). That is NOTHING compared to you having to visit two households during Christmas!
The fact that you fail to see how everything you listed above also trickles down to the children involved (at home or adult) shows just how self-centered you are. Easy to see why your marriage didn’t last. If your finances are so bad, are you going to quietly live in poverty, or are you going to guilt your children into supporting you somehow. Given your self-righteous grievances, you don’t come across as someone who will help themselves.
+1000. If only it were just having to do two holiday visits! It's way, way, way more complicated than that. It's trying to care for two sick old people having simultaneous health crises in different cities. It's when they're broke because they couldn't really afford two homes so you have to bail them out. Or when they remarry badly and are miserable and their awful step-children move in and mooch off them and drink.
You can say "boundaries!" all day long, but not seeing them means my children don't get to know their grandparents, so that's a hard choice to make. And when you're dealing with people who are old and becoming cognitively impaired, there's very little choice other than to deal with them and their problems and drama. It's either that or the horrors of the public safety net. It has been really eye-opening.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Self-centered are the parents who divorced while expecting that they won’t shoulder any of the inconvenience. A lot of these so-called parents could use a dose of shut up. That’s not being a martyr. That’s an adult child sick of listening to their parents’ childish whining.
Yes, because it certainly is not an inconvenience for the parents to go through the huge changes that divorce brings into their lives (who you live with, where you live, the finances etc etc + divorces tend to be emotionally difficult even when they're 'easy'). That is NOTHING compared to you having to visit two households during Christmas!
DP here. I’m not visiting twice as many people on the holidays. If you choose to divorce, you get half as much time. That’s how it works. I will rotate but I will not twist my family into a pretzel. And I don’t feel guilty - this is what you chose.
So they're gonna get half as much eldercare from you too? Half-manage their medical care when they're too old to do it? You're gonna half-sell their house, half-find them an assisted living?
Actually, yes! I can only do so much, and I'm not taking away from my husband and kids an unreasonable amount to do the above things. Choices have consequences.