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It didn’t factor in things they do for parents, neighbors, schools. PTA moms are essential to our schools, pandemic made it real clear.


Many PTA parents are also working parents.

+1 I worked full time and was on the PTA board for years (as were others). And sorry to say this, but PTA moms (and dads---yes we had dads too) are not "essential to our schools".

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any party, lobby or an individual politician advocating for people who work without titles and compensations? Its been a traditional role serving nation’s most important units known as families, nation’s most important asset known as minor citizens and nation’s most important buildings known as homes. They fill so many voids in the society but get no recognition, no compensation or no one protecting this endangered species. Isn’t it about time for them to stand up for their rights and for others to acknowledge and support it?

In short, no. Remember when Hillary bragged that she decided not to stay home and bake cookies?

When I see threads going this way, I wonder how old the PPs are. You have to consider history and context. Hillary Clinton was part of a generation in which women were discouraged from pursuing careers. When they did forge ahead, they faced discrimination and barriers that prevented them from equal pay etc. For them, staying at home amounted to defeat, giving up. They are proud of their grit and perseverance.

We are now working toward more encompassing views of roles for women, and, I hope, parents. The pendulum is swinging back, so to speak, so that being a SAHP is viewed more as a choice for your family rather than bowing to the patriarchy. But we aren't all the way there. This discussion really needs to encompass men, as well, and we need to stop the focus of childcare always being about only mothers. We can work to persuade older women to soften their views about roles for women, but to just dismiss them ignores their experiences, their contributions and their toughness.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/the-value-of-a-stay-at-home-mom-isnt-what-you-would-think-at-all-2012-5

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-economists-stay-home-moms-010723606.html

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0112/how-much-is-a-homemaker-worth.aspx

Anonymous wrote:It didn’t factor in things they do for parents, neighbors, schools. PTA moms are essential to our schools, pandemic made it real clear.

Many PTA parents are also working parents.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/the-value-of-a-stay-at-home-mom-isnt-what-you-would-think-at-all-2012-5

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-economists-stay-home-moms-010723606.html

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand what the policy “ask” is for SAH parents.

Universal basic income for SAH parents? Subsidized maternity costs and early child education? An additional tax credit?

What exactly do you want politicians to do?

Yes, the things that you listed would be a good start. SAHM are doing work that would need to be covered by a nanny or daycare if they weren’t doing it. They should at least get UBI and SSI credit for this work.

They do get the benefit of not paying someone else to do it.

This exactly. Their families don't pay extra for child care. Families with two working parents do. I'm betting there are many families with two working families for whom the lower of the two salaries doesn't pay for much more than the childcare. But the parent can't leave work for a few years or they will face a tough road to get back into their field, or what they really need is the healthcare benefits, etc.

SAHMs provide child care during the day. That is their only difference from other working parents. Many working parents don't receive high salaries or even much in the way of benefits for their jobs outside the home. So why should we have to supplement SAHPs?

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand what the policy “ask” is for SAH parents.

Universal basic income for SAH parents? Subsidized maternity costs and early child education? An additional tax credit?

What exactly do you want politicians to do?

Yes, the things that you listed would be a good start. SAHM are doing work that would need to be covered by a nanny or daycare if they weren’t doing it. They should at least get UBI and SSI credit for this work.

This. We need to make this option available for every family, not limit it for privileged wealthy families.

It didn’t factor in things they do for parents, neighbors, schools. PTA moms are essential to our schools, pandemic made it real clear.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand what the policy “ask” is for SAH parents.

Universal basic income for SAH parents? Subsidized maternity costs and early child education? An additional tax credit?

What exactly do you want politicians to do?

Yes, the things that you listed would be a good start. SAHM are doing work that would need to be covered by a nanny or daycare if they weren’t doing it. They should at least get UBI and SSI credit for this work.

They do get the benefit of not paying someone else to do it.

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand what the policy “ask” is for SAH parents.

Universal basic income for SAH parents? Subsidized maternity costs and early child education? An additional tax credit?

What exactly do you want politicians to do?

Yes, the things that you listed would be a good start. SAHM are doing work that would need to be covered by a nanny or daycare if they weren’t doing it. They should at least get UBI and SSI credit for this work.

I’ve had a career and later stayed home. Being done both, I can see the value in both but found happiness at home. I genuinely think full time work is a sham and only reason I would go back is if I’m bored. I’ve skills to work online for a couple of hours a week to cover necessities and I’m happier at home.

I totally get extrovert and driven who want attention and praise and luxury but that’s not my thing. I can make a difference by volunteering and never feel bored if I have books, music and beach. This may change and I may get into cars and designer goods and luxury but for now, I don’t need more money. Simple is good.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand what the policy “ask” is for SAH parents.

Universal basic income for SAH parents? Subsidized maternity costs and early child education? An additional tax credit?

What exactly do you want politicians to do?

See me! I want to be SEEN.

Then don't stay in your house. There is a whole world outside, beyond what you are cooking for dinner.

You have to show your family that women can contribute beyond their home.

That’s simplifying, there is a whole lot more to raising a family than cooking dinner. That being said, you don’t need to do things to proof anything to anyone, do what works for YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:The only person that should be looking out for SAHMs is their husband/wife. The tax payer should not be on the hook for an able bodied person who has decided they would prefer to stay home.

As wohm I have to agree. Let’s eliminate the marriage tax penalty before doing anything else to support sahm. It’s hard to see my .70/dollar be taxed higher when I don’t have the privilege to sahm. All our carpools and committees are with other wohm.

But you expect taxpayers and other employees to support you when you take off for maternity leave, right? Selfish. Listen, spite and envy make for bad policy. We all need others’ support. You’re what’s wrong with America.

I ask this seriously. How would this work? SAHMs don't generate any revenue. They don't have any income to tax. The only thing they do that working mothers don't do is childcare during working hours. Otherwise, all families have the same basic stuff getting done around the house, with the cars, etc. What are they not getting for that childcare that you believe they should be getting.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand what the policy “ask” is for SAH parents.

Universal basic income for SAH parents? Subsidized maternity costs and early child education? An additional tax credit?

What exactly do you want politicians to do?

See me! I want to be SEEN.

Then don't stay in your house. There is a whole world outside, beyond what you are cooking for dinner.

You have to show your family that women can contribute beyond their home.