Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

None of those are constitutional rights.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

You can keep insisting this, but you will still be wrong.

As another PP correctly stated, the first time you see any medical provider, you will be asked to show your ID. Often, they'll ask for it every time you go, but not always.

Just took my kids to the doctor today and did not need to show id.

Not even your own ID, along with your insurance card?

I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm . . . which party approved of, renewed, and expanded REAL ID? Oh yeah - Obama’s party.

Does the GOP want to require REAL ID for voting now?!?!

DP and no. All you need is a picture ID - not RealID. You can calm your outrage.

Unexpired photo ID

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

You can keep insisting this, but you will still be wrong.

As another PP correctly stated, the first time you see any medical provider, you will be asked to show your ID. Often, they'll ask for it every time you go, but not always.

I just saw a dermatologist for the first time yesterday and they didn’t ask for ID. It was a very short appt and she just recommended an OTC treatment. She doesn’t take insurance. Maybe that’s why?

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

You can keep insisting this, but you will still be wrong.

As another PP correctly stated, the first time you see any medical provider, you will be asked to show your ID. Often, they'll ask for it every time you go, but not always.

Sort of like when you register to vote, you have to show proof of residency. After that, you're good to go.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

You can keep insisting this, but you will still be wrong.

As another PP correctly stated, the first time you see any medical provider, you will be asked to show your ID. Often, they'll ask for it every time you go, but not always.

Just took my kids to the doctor today and did not need to show id.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

Are you willing to drive all of the elderly people who don’t have a ride or someone to help them gather documents?

My 86 years old mother doesn't drive or travel by plane. I took her to DMV to get Real ID. Why can't you?

I don't live in the state. Next question, dummy?

Also, many nursing home residents are too frail to leave the facility.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it necessary to change the voting laws?

Because when Republicans can't win, they change the system to rig it so they can win.

This! Personally, I don't think the ID is a huge deal. Yes, some people have an issue getting an ID but that has to be a small piece of likely voters. What's hugely impactful is making it hard for people to get to the polls -- limiting mail in voting, getting rid of ballot drop boxes, cutting early voting hours. Republicans only want people to vote during limited hours on one specific day when lots of people need to be at work. And limit polling places so there are long lines that deter people from voting. None of those things that make voting easier logistically are a security risk. They just encourage more people to vote by making it easier for people with inflexible jobs, long hours, transportation limitations. And Democrats tend to use them more. If Republicans used them more Republicans would be up in arms about expanding voter access. But, since they don't, they want to cut them. Republicans are anti-democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

You can keep insisting this, but you will still be wrong.

As another PP correctly stated, the first time you see any medical provider, you will be asked to show your ID. Often, they'll ask for it every time you go, but not always.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

You can keep insisting this, but you will still be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

Yes, you did the first time when you also gave them your insurance card. After that you’re correct.

Which means pp’s point stands. If you are already established with your doctors, you don’t need photo id to continue seeing your doctors. PP was saying you can’t go to a doctor at all without a photo id, so lack of a valid photo id would mean the other poster’s elderly parent could never go to the doctor since she does not have valid photo id.

I am one of the PPs.

I never made the blanket statement you can’t go to the doctor without ID (although they are sticklers for proof of insurance - which requires - wait for it - ID !!).

But Lab Corp and at least 2 of my doctors/dentist require an automated kiosk check-in that scans your DL.

The idea that there are many willing and eager voters, ready to vote, but who somehow can’t get some sort of valid ID is simply idiotic.

I do not believe these ID requirements will disenfranchise anyone in Virginia.

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It is absolutely idiotic.

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Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.

I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.

Exactly.

Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.

So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.

DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.

I don't believe this for a minute. Every single healthcare provider I have ever gone to has required my ID.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm . . . which party approved of, renewed, and expanded REAL ID? Oh yeah - Obama’s party.

Does the GOP want to require REAL ID for voting now?!?!

DP and no. All you need is a picture ID - not RealID. You can calm your outrage.