Anonymous
02/01/2022 14:32
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
I agree with PP.
The people crying chicken little over Garland are, IMO, misplaced.
The people crying chicken little over Garland are, IMO, misplaced.
Anonymous
02/01/2022 12:57
Subject: Re:Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been concerned about Garland and how aggressively he will move beyond the Jan. 6 operatives.
We think of Garland as relatively pure and principled because of his documented moderate record, his selection as the SCOTUS nominee most acceptable to Republicans, and now his determination to show DOJ is apolitical.
I have a bit different perspective, having worked in the Federal courts and seen Garland’s service to the Third Branch. As DC Circuit Chief Judge Garland was very friendly with now-Justice Kavanaugh in particular. There was something of a “circle the wagons” effort to be sure people tied into the Circuit stepped up and testified for Kavanaugh at his hearing. At the same time, Chief Justice Roberts specifically selected Garland to serve as Chair of the Executive Committee of the Judicial Conference. That means Garland represented the Judicial Branch in its policymaking function, including outreach to Congress. The Judiciary’s determination to keep hands off how it treats Chambers clerks, other employees, and judges determination of their own conflicts of interest? The Judicial Branch’s commitment to maintaining the fee-generating PACER system as is? The commitment to protecting the branch’s sole authority to address judicial misconduct? All those things were under Garland’s purview, by Chief Justice Roberts’s specific choice.
That doesn’t happen unless the Chief Justice is confident that Garland won’t give up the Family Jewels. So why was the Chief Justice so confident? Why was he so trusted? And what does that mean for now-AG Garland’s willingness to prosecute not just people who stormed Capitol, but the GOP politicians, Trump WH officials, and others who seem to have planned the ongoing efforts to execute a coup d’etat? Will Chief Justice Roberts’s trusted colleague prosecute those very important people?
Taking as your premise that Roberts showed a lot of confidence in Garland, I have an alternate interpretation.
While a conservative, Roberts is first and foremost an institutionalist. As such, he trusted Garland's adherence to the laws, norms, and traditions of good government and effectiveness in carrying out his duties. I don't understand the panic and suspicion about Garland's leadership. The priority has to be exposing the entire conspiracy-- especially the actions of those at the top, including those in the WH, DoJ, DoD, Congress, DHS, etc.-- and building an airtight case against them. Our democracy depends on doing this right.
What we've seen is the arrest of the little guys, then the bigger guys, with increasingly serious charges. There have been no leaks about the investigation, which is what I would expect when going after the big targets. To nail them, you have to have public support. We've seen in the past that a steady drip of revelations and bad actions only creates a din that the public tunes out and the right wing media ignores. When the cases are ready, I expect blockbuster reveals that will shock and hold the attention of the public.
Anonymous
02/01/2022 12:12
Subject: Re:Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
I’ve been concerned about Garland and how aggressively he will move beyond the Jan. 6 operatives.
We think of Garland as relatively pure and principled because of his documented moderate record, his selection as the SCOTUS nominee most acceptable to Republicans, and now his determination to show DOJ is apolitical.
I have a bit different perspective, having worked in the Federal courts and seen Garland’s service to the Third Branch. As DC Circuit Chief Judge Garland was very friendly with now-Justice Kavanaugh in particular. There was something of a “circle the wagons” effort to be sure people tied into the Circuit stepped up and testified for Kavanaugh at his hearing. At the same time, Chief Justice Roberts specifically selected Garland to serve as Chair of the Executive Committee of the Judicial Conference. That means Garland represented the Judicial Branch in its policymaking function, including outreach to Congress. The Judiciary’s determination to keep hands off how it treats Chambers clerks, other employees, and judges determination of their own conflicts of interest? The Judicial Branch’s commitment to maintaining the fee-generating PACER system as is? The commitment to protecting the branch’s sole authority to address judicial misconduct? All those things were under Garland’s purview, by Chief Justice Roberts’s specific choice.
That doesn’t happen unless the Chief Justice is confident that Garland won’t give up the Family Jewels. So why was the Chief Justice so confident? Why was he so trusted? And what does that mean for now-AG Garland’s willingness to prosecute not just people who stormed Capitol, but the GOP politicians, Trump WH officials, and others who seem to have planned the ongoing efforts to execute a coup d’etat? Will Chief Justice Roberts’s trusted colleague prosecute those very important people?
We think of Garland as relatively pure and principled because of his documented moderate record, his selection as the SCOTUS nominee most acceptable to Republicans, and now his determination to show DOJ is apolitical.
I have a bit different perspective, having worked in the Federal courts and seen Garland’s service to the Third Branch. As DC Circuit Chief Judge Garland was very friendly with now-Justice Kavanaugh in particular. There was something of a “circle the wagons” effort to be sure people tied into the Circuit stepped up and testified for Kavanaugh at his hearing. At the same time, Chief Justice Roberts specifically selected Garland to serve as Chair of the Executive Committee of the Judicial Conference. That means Garland represented the Judicial Branch in its policymaking function, including outreach to Congress. The Judiciary’s determination to keep hands off how it treats Chambers clerks, other employees, and judges determination of their own conflicts of interest? The Judicial Branch’s commitment to maintaining the fee-generating PACER system as is? The commitment to protecting the branch’s sole authority to address judicial misconduct? All those things were under Garland’s purview, by Chief Justice Roberts’s specific choice.
That doesn’t happen unless the Chief Justice is confident that Garland won’t give up the Family Jewels. So why was the Chief Justice so confident? Why was he so trusted? And what does that mean for now-AG Garland’s willingness to prosecute not just people who stormed Capitol, but the GOP politicians, Trump WH officials, and others who seem to have planned the ongoing efforts to execute a coup d’etat? Will Chief Justice Roberts’s trusted colleague prosecute those very important people?
Anonymous
01/31/2022 20:50
Subject: Re:Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:LMAO. This won't make sense unless you read the court record where he tried to get pretrial release. "Oath Keeper leader's estranged wife releases photographic evidence of his 'elaborate escape tunnels'" Elmer's wife kept pictures!
https://www.rawstory.com/stewart-rhodes-2656485935/
Grown man. No eye patch either. The best part is this grown adult loser didn't even own the property he tore up. It was a rental house. Tenants wonder why rent is so high.
This looks like some kind of rebirth fantasy.
Anonymous
01/30/2022 15:17
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not just weapons, but food, water, drones etc.
They had intended to barricade the Capitol.
Republicans are still telling us to forget this, like it was no big deal that the leader of their party tried to overthrow the government.
He tried to Stop the Steal, not overthrow the government.
I don’t see how any of the Oath Keepers or Giuliani or President Trump himself are going to be found guilty. I know if I ended up on a jury I would never vote to indict, and I would certainly never vote to convict. I’d wait out anyone else who wanted to convict, but I’d have at least a few with me and it would be clear that no conviction was ever going to happen.
There....was no steal by the Biden campaign.
60 lawsuits, none of them showed any major improprieties.
On the other hand, Trump planned and incited a bloody coup attempt, and coordinated fake electors to work with the GOP in the House and Senate to literally overturn the will of the voters of the US and impact the peaceful transfer of power.
YOU really need to check the facts here.
+1
When Republicans try to pretend that their party isn’t full of whackjobs and extremists, I hope the sane among us remember the GOP pps here who excuse the GOP trying to overthrow the government.
Anonymous
01/30/2022 14:36
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not just weapons, but food, water, drones etc.
They had intended to barricade the Capitol.
Republicans are still telling us to forget this, like it was no big deal that the leader of their party tried to overthrow the government.
He tried to Stop the Steal, not overthrow the government.
I don’t see how any of the Oath Keepers or Giuliani or President Trump himself are going to be found guilty. I know if I ended up on a jury I would never vote to indict, and I would certainly never vote to convict. I’d wait out anyone else who wanted to convict, but I’d have at least a few with me and it would be clear that no conviction was ever going to happen.
There....was no steal by the Biden campaign.
60 lawsuits, none of them showed any major improprieties.
On the other hand, Trump planned and incited a bloody coup attempt, and coordinated fake electors to work with the GOP in the House and Senate to literally overturn the will of the voters of the US and impact the peaceful transfer of power.
YOU really need to check the facts here.
Anonymous
01/30/2022 14:30
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not just weapons, but food, water, drones etc.
They had intended to barricade the Capitol.
Republicans are still telling us to forget this, like it was no big deal that the leader of their party tried to overthrow the government.
He tried to Stop the Steal, not overthrow the government.
I don’t see how any of the Oath Keepers or Giuliani or President Trump himself are going to be found guilty. I know if I ended up on a jury I would never vote to indict, and I would certainly never vote to convict. I’d wait out anyone else who wanted to convict, but I’d have at least a few with me and it would be clear that no conviction was ever going to happen.
Wait, wait, wait. WHO tried to steal the election?
Anonymous
01/29/2022 13:56
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
I can’t believe that we’re a year and some out from the GOP attempting a coup and voting Republicans are on board with it. They are all in for fascism; how many have posted on here that what their party did was OTT? For months it was “there are no serious charges” therefore it wasn’t serious. Now the serious charges are beginning and they’re pretending nothing happened.
This is just a redditor I found and I appreciate what s/he has done.
“I’ve had over a dozen calls with members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, the Capitol Police, and a few Special Agents around the country. Each have expressed what seemed like genuine gratitude for my efforts. Some have told me “you have literally built the case for me and done my job.”
[…]
I am so saddened, though not shocked, by the tone change from the political right. The night of the 6th I had a moment of hope thinking we might finally come together to root out this rising tide of fascist tendencies. Wrong.” https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitolConsequences/comments/rxoued/update_from_a_sedition_hunter_3_one_year_out_and/
This is just a redditor I found and I appreciate what s/he has done.
“I’ve had over a dozen calls with members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, the Capitol Police, and a few Special Agents around the country. Each have expressed what seemed like genuine gratitude for my efforts. Some have told me “you have literally built the case for me and done my job.”
[…]
I am so saddened, though not shocked, by the tone change from the political right. The night of the 6th I had a moment of hope thinking we might finally come together to root out this rising tide of fascist tendencies. Wrong.” https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitolConsequences/comments/rxoued/update_from_a_sedition_hunter_3_one_year_out_and/
Anonymous
01/28/2022 10:04
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:Who would have thought that was a a crazy POS?
Narrator : everyone thought he was a crazy POS
That picture of him trying to disappear down the tunnel has huge loser energy.
Anonymous
01/28/2022 09:50
Subject: Re:Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
He really thought he was smarter than everyone else, didn’t he?
They’ll never get m— Oh damn. They got me.
They’ll never get m— Oh damn. They got me.
Anonymous
01/28/2022 02:16
Subject: Re:Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
LMAO. This won't make sense unless you read the court record where he tried to get pretrial release. "Oath Keeper leader's estranged wife releases photographic evidence of his 'elaborate escape tunnels'" Elmer's wife kept pictures!
https://www.rawstory.com/stewart-rhodes-2656485935/
Grown man. No eye patch either. The best part is this grown adult loser didn't even own the property he tore up. It was a rental house. Tenants wonder why rent is so high.
https://www.rawstory.com/stewart-rhodes-2656485935/
Grown man. No eye patch either. The best part is this grown adult loser didn't even own the property he tore up. It was a rental house. Tenants wonder why rent is so high.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 20:16
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Tax evasion sentence is five years. 14 of them means he’s never getting out.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 20:02
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Who would have thought that was a a crazy POS?
Narrator : everyone thought he was a crazy POS
Narrator : everyone thought he was a crazy POS
Anonymous
01/19/2022 15:20
Subject: Charge of Seditious Conspiracy 1/6
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not just weapons, but food, water, drones etc.
They had intended to barricade the Capitol.
Republicans are still telling us to forget this, like it was no big deal that the leader of their party tried to overthrow the government.
He tried to Stop the Steal, not overthrow the government.
I don’t see how any of the Oath Keepers or Giuliani or President Trump himself are going to be found guilty. I know if I ended up on a jury I would never vote to indict, and I would certainly never vote to convict. I’d wait out anyone else who wanted to convict, but I’d have at least a few with me and it would be clear that no conviction was ever going to happen.
What steal? The made-up one he and his operatives blithely manufactured to rile up an angry mob and intimidate lawmakers into overthrowing our democracy? That one?
+1
Where they tried to storm poll counting locations?
Where they forced fake audits?
Or where they just went ahead and faked election certifications?
The GOP is a dead party and without extensive, multi-factor cheating they can no longer win. Hence the attempted coup by the GOP.