Anonymous wrote:So what's on your list these days, OP? I am having the same conversations, although liberal is not really a requirement. I want warm, and cheaper COL, and good schools, but also need access to a good international airport.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal
Warm
Low cost of living.

Pick 2. You can't have all 3

Unfortunately this.

Sadly, true. If you can accept three months of serious winter (Jan-March), Rochester, NY would be great. The suburb of Brighton, in particular, is very liberal with excellent public schools, and minimal pressure/drama. Housing prices are ridiculously low compared to the DC area (though higher property taxes eat some of that savings.)

yea the weather is opposite of warm-- but this is my hometown and my partner and I frequently discuss moving there. We could buy a house in cash for the price that our home has increased since 2020. Quality of life is excellent-- everything is just easy and close.

You’ve intrigued me.

I grew up there. No, just no. It is not as liberal as you think. The reason Brighton is liberal is bc of the large Jewish population, otherwise, the area is really conservative, NRA and gun -toting, and super cold in the winter with lots of lake-effect snow. I could say lots of positive things (real estate prices, good schools, the HOG, stable-ish economy) but the snow and the gun mentality are deal breakers for me ever moving back there.

DP but I’d call it purple, which I concede is conservative relative to this area, ha. Monroe county voted for Biden over Trump by quite a bit. Most of my family voted for Biden (and they’re spread out across the various burbs), a few are feverish NRA and trump supporters. But your characterization of it being overwhelmingly conservative doesn’t really jive with the election results and on a personal level is different than my experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.

Funny you should suggest that part of Florida. I recently met new neighbors who moved back to Bethesda after retiring to the same area you recommend. They said they were sick of being mocked for wearing masks in stores, and even had some scary moments on the roads when Trumpsters saw their Dem bumper stickers. This couple bought an old, pre-war bungalow in walking distance to downtown Bethesda and metro.

So they came back and took a house that someone like our family could have used. They should buy a condo and leave houses for young people who need them.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal
Warm
Low cost of living.

Pick 2. You can't have all 3

Unfortunately this.

Sadly, true. If you can accept three months of serious winter (Jan-March), Rochester, NY would be great. The suburb of Brighton, in particular, is very liberal with excellent public schools, and minimal pressure/drama. Housing prices are ridiculously low compared to the DC area (though higher property taxes eat some of that savings.)

yea the weather is opposite of warm-- but this is my hometown and my partner and I frequently discuss moving there. We could buy a house in cash for the price that our home has increased since 2020. Quality of life is excellent-- everything is just easy and close.

You’ve intrigued me.

I grew up there. No, just no. It is not as liberal as you think. The reason Brighton is liberal is bc of the large Jewish population, otherwise, the area is really conservative, NRA and gun -toting, and super cold in the winter with lots of lake-effect snow. I could say lots of positive things (real estate prices, good schools, the HOG, stable-ish economy) but the snow and the gun mentality are deal breakers for me ever moving back there.

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Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.

Funny you should suggest that part of Florida. I recently met new neighbors who moved back to Bethesda after retiring to the same area you recommend. They said they were sick of being mocked for wearing masks in stores, and even had some scary moments on the roads when Trumpsters saw their Dem bumper stickers. This couple bought an old, pre-war bungalow in walking distance to downtown Bethesda and metro.

So they came back and took a house that someone like our family could have used. They should buy a condo and leave houses for young people who need them.

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Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.

Funny you should suggest that part of Florida. I recently met new neighbors who moved back to Bethesda after retiring to the same area you recommend. They said they were sick of being mocked for wearing masks in stores, and even had some scary moments on the roads when Trumpsters saw their Dem bumper stickers. This couple bought an old, pre-war bungalow in walking distance to downtown Bethesda and metro.

So they came back and took a house that someone like our family could have used. They should buy a condo and leave houses for young people who need them.

What?? Are you serious? They can buy whatever/wherever they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal
Warm
Low cost of living.

Pick 2. You can't have all 3

Unfortunately this.

Sadly, true. If you can accept three months of serious winter (Jan-March), Rochester, NY would be great. The suburb of Brighton, in particular, is very liberal with excellent public schools, and minimal pressure/drama. Housing prices are ridiculously low compared to the DC area (though higher property taxes eat some of that savings.)

yea the weather is opposite of warm-- but this is my hometown and my partner and I frequently discuss moving there. We could buy a house in cash for the price that our home has increased since 2020. Quality of life is excellent-- everything is just easy and close.

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Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.

Funny you should suggest that part of Florida. I recently met new neighbors who moved back to Bethesda after retiring to the same area you recommend. They said they were sick of being mocked for wearing masks in stores, and even had some scary moments on the roads when Trumpsters saw their Dem bumper stickers. This couple bought an old, pre-war bungalow in walking distance to downtown Bethesda and metro.

So they came back and took a house that someone like our family could have used. They should buy a condo and leave houses for young people who need them.

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Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.

Funny you should suggest that part of Florida. I recently met new neighbors who moved back to Bethesda after retiring to the same area you recommend. They said they were sick of being mocked for wearing masks in stores, and even had some scary moments on the roads when Trumpsters saw their Dem bumper stickers. This couple bought an old, pre-war bungalow in walking distance to downtown Bethesda and metro.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal
Warm
Low cost of living.

Pick 2. You can't have all 3

Unfortunately this.

Sadly, true. If you can accept three months of serious winter (Jan-March), Rochester, NY would be great. The suburb of Brighton, in particular, is very liberal with excellent public schools, and minimal pressure/drama. Housing prices are ridiculously low compared to the DC area (though higher property taxes eat some of that savings.)

yea the weather is opposite of warm-- but this is my hometown and my partner and I frequently discuss moving there. We could buy a house in cash for the price that our home has increased since 2020. Quality of life is excellent-- everything is just easy and close.

You’ve intrigued me.