The poster who keeps making these threads is obsessed and ridden with guilt. Look, just take care of your own kid, lady. All of your lobbying and spamming various message boards about how horrible day care workers are for wearing masks with your kids is just getting really sad.

Basically you're all up in arms and telling a bunch of minimum wage workers they have no right to protect themselves but they must enrich your child's life because you're too busy to do it yourself.

That's not their problem, lady. Teach your own kids to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Part of learning to speak is seeing how your mouth moves. This is a basic fact. You may ask your pediatrician.

No one is disputing this. The question is whether it's sufficient to see people move their mouth at home, after daycare, and on weekends, and how many kids are affected by this. Certainly, there would be many kids with speech problems in the absence of Covid masking rules, and even in the presence of these rules, there are kids who are verbally and socially advanced. It's not so straightforward.

Part of learning to speak is seeing how your mouth moves. This is a basic fact. You may ask your pediatrician.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

Making up a scenario that doesn’t exist is not “seeing something differently”, dear. It’s hallucinating.

+1. This PP is just making stuff up and it’s getting pretty weird.

Are you asserting burqas don’t exist? That’s the only scenario I’m asserting.

In those cultures mom is home watching her own kids.

Okay so make that choice.

None of you can spot a troll huh?

Anonymous wrote:Omg burqa-lady has no clue. Women don’t have to wear full face covers around other women and children.

That lady is truly hysterical. Rare I get a laugh on DCUM. But then I remember it’s probably her and her cohorts setting daycare policy, and I stop laughing.

Omg burqa-lady has no clue. Women don’t have to wear full face covers around other women and children.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

Making up a scenario that doesn’t exist is not “seeing something differently”, dear. It’s hallucinating.

+1. This PP is just making stuff up and it’s getting pretty weird.

Are you asserting burqas don’t exist? That’s the only scenario I’m asserting.

In those cultures mom is home watching her own kids.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

Making up a scenario that doesn’t exist is not “seeing something differently”, dear. It’s hallucinating.

+1. This PP is just making stuff up and it’s getting pretty weird.

Are you asserting burqas don’t exist? That’s the only scenario I’m asserting.

It’s clear that you have never been to a country where burqa are used and don’t understand when they are worn. If I were you, I would go around spouting that “kids in Saudi Arabia are fine and they only see burqas or niqabs all day!” Because you are incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

Making up a scenario that doesn’t exist is not “seeing something differently”, dear. It’s hallucinating.

+1. This PP is just making stuff up and it’s getting pretty weird.

Are you asserting burqas don’t exist? That’s the only scenario I’m asserting.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

Making up a scenario that doesn’t exist is not “seeing something differently”, dear. It’s hallucinating.

+1. This PP is just making stuff up and it’s getting pretty weird.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

Making up a scenario that doesn’t exist is not “seeing something differently”, dear. It’s hallucinating.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

Yes they do.

I’m not saying it’s exactly the same as your suburban DC daycare. I’m simply introducing another way to think about this by looking at another culture.

Don’t send your kid to daycare if you’re concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

Children seem to do quite well in countries where hijabs are worn, there's no evidence of increased speech delay.

We have no data to support your assertion.

Don't you think if this was a problem it would be documented? You have no data to support YOUR assertion.

Hijabs don’t cover your face. The PP is just a moron.

+1. PP is an idiot.

But Burqas do! You could at least consider it. But you just want to stick to your narrative.

Women who wear burqas aren’t allowed to teach, fool. And the mother doesn’t wear it at home unless unrelated males are present. Further, how would we know if the children had speech delays?! You think they’re inviting us in to run studies?!!

Funny how you assume it would be "us" to do the studies. Do you wear a mask at home with your child? No. Do some foreign children grow in an environment with face coverings, yes.

NO THEY DON’T!! Jesus, name one country where mouth coverings are used in infant rooms in daycares for eight hours plus five days a week? Come on, fool, we’re waiting.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with covid, but get a speech evaluation. The wait and see works with some kids and can really harm other kids.

You seem to know nothing about speech development.

Do enlighten us.

Babies must SEE how your mouth moves in order to learn how to speak normally. Duh.

My kid and the others in her class have no speech delays and they have masked providers. Duh.

DP Yes, congratulations, you and other parents have children that are not vulnerable to speech delays.
That doesn't mean other children aren't being impacted by masking. Duh. It also doesn't mean your children's social development is not being impacted.

It’s not universal then. Why are you making it out to be? Drama llama.

Misrepresenting what people are saying and namecalling are the hallmarks of a person that has no actual counterargument.

You’re not presenting any sensible facts so what’s your point?

I made my point above, which is quite clear. You didn't like it, stated I said something I did not say, and then called me a stupid name. Are you having a bad day or something? Or are you a 10 year old posting on DCUM? What's wrong with you?

DP. Your point is that because it doesn’t effect 100% of children (I assume this was what you meant by universal), then we shouldn’t care? So, by that logic, why would we care about covid at all? Most people, kids especially, experience mild or no symptoms, and survive just fine.

I never used the word universal.

Alcohol and weed are best in moderation, fyi.

So this wasn’t you then? “ It’s not universal then. Why are you making it out to be? Drama llama”.

Sure seems like that was you…

No jfc you need to drink less. Learn to follow a thread.

If that wasn’t you then why are you so offended? JFC get over yourself.

Wow you are really desperate for human interaction. You know, there are warm lines you can call if you need someone to talk to. It might be healthier than picking inane fights with random people online.

Lol. Ok lady. You’re just sad.