Anonymous wrote:Practically speaking, nobody was interested in commuting to/from Sherwood and down county schools. Have you driven down Georgia Ave during rush hour? It literally took me 45 mins this morning to get from the heart of Olney to HC hospital. It would easily be 60+ minutes to use other roads to get to most NEC schools.

Plus, holding up Blair as a model of diversity is ridiculous. It’s two schools largely segregated by race thanks to the specialty programs created to keep white students from leaving. Google that history. Ask students who attend Blair who aren’t in the special programs.

You're stupid. They are not talking about the down county schools (DCC).
And your Blair envy is showing

The incidents were not only racist. I have a child at Einstein, and my understanding from them is that there were also body shaming and homophobic taunts from the Sherwood attendees at the soccer game. Yelling at one of the girls that they looked transgender, for example. I hope Sherwood takes this seriously - this is just sickening.

I am a poc and live in Olney. We belong to the Sherwood cluster with kids in an Elementary school. I’m paying attention to the story very carefully. I don’t think Olney is a racist town. It is small town, homey, and yes, you see the same people everywhere from the OBGC fields to the football games and yes, even the breweries. I can only speak for what I observe at the elementary school. Many have (had) black lives matters or kindness lives here signs on their lawns, there’s a lot of talk about equity and inclusiveness including adopting a title 1 sister school. So I think people want to be in a right spot. But in practice what I observe is these same well-meaning and well-intentioned people have a very homogenous looking social groups. They’re all white or you might see one or two people of color mixed in but not many. As I said, I don’t think it’s racism but I can’t put my finger on what the disconnect is. I’m also not saying that well-intentioned people can’t be racists, so don’t take it that way, just trying to work out my observations about my town and what I’m hearing is happening at a high school level into perspective.

The consortium schools are chosen. If you are zoned for Sherwood and list Sherwood as your first choice, you would go to Sherwood. So there is no risk of any Sherwoord-zoned kids being bussed to the bad schools.
The issue was that kids from the bad schools could choose Sherwood as their first choice, and if space is available, they would be able to attend.

And to the parent who feels.like this idea would ruin their weekly shopping get togethers at Harris Teeter, or negatively impact the craft beer parties at the football games, you disgust me.

Who cares what race the Sherwood students were? So ridiculous and offensive.

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, it doesn't look like anyone on this thread is stereotyping all of Olney as being racist. That is a leap. What I'm saying is that areas with that big racial gap (around 49% white; all the other groups in the teens at the most) are more likely to have racist incidents, and also tend to be more 'square,' so I avoid living in such areas.

But again, what happens if the offenders arent from that 49% white?

What if this was some AA kids calling asian kids slurs? What does that do to the narrative, and how would MCPS punish them?

If 'all means all', then they would get the same punishment as some white kids, but we all know that wouldnt be the case

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s be real here, the soccer players from Sherwood don’t know the socioeconomic and racial makeup of Einstein. It’s a group of kids heckling their opponent and making a play on words. As adults, are we reading too much into it? Yes, it needs addressed but going out for blood because we think we know their intentions is wrong.

Look into the the students from the Sherwood boys soccer team. I’d estimate less than 20% are white. The remaining players are asian, Hispanic, black or a mix. It’s an incredibly diverse group of boys.

If any post should be deleted, it should be the one that accuses the Sherwood community of trying to keep their community white. Less than 50% of the students are white. How is that not diverse? Also, do you even know the history of Sandy Spring?

why would the post about the Sherwood community trying to keep their community white be deleted? It's accurate. The community fought tooth and nail to prevent Sherwood from joining the NEC and they won.
They did not want kids zoned for Springbrook, Paint Branch and Blake attending their school since these kids are mostly black, hispanic and lower income. Come on, Springbrook is known as being gang infested and those kids at Paint Branch are rough! So many behavioral issues!
And yes, I know the history of Sandy Spring very well but that is absolutely not relevant today where the demographics of Olney have shifted considerably.

Wait. Families at Sherwood didn't want their kids bused all over the upper east part of the county to attend poor performing schools and you're calling them racist? Where have I heard that tune before?

Nobody in the NEC is “bused” anywhere but their home school unless they choose it. That wasn’t the (ostensible) objection.

To be clear, it doesn't look like anyone on this thread is stereotyping all of Olney as being racist. That is a leap. What I'm saying is that areas with that big racial gap (around 49% white; all the other groups in the teens at the most) are more likely to have racist incidents, and also tend to be more 'square,' so I avoid living in such areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Practically speaking, nobody was interested in commuting to/from Sherwood and down county schools. Have you driven down Georgia Ave during rush hour? It literally took me 45 mins this morning to get from the heart of Olney to HC hospital. It would easily be 60+ minutes to use other roads to get to most NEC schools.

Plus, holding up Blair as a model of diversity is ridiculous. It’s two schools largely segregated by race thanks to the specialty programs created to keep white students from leaving. Google that history. Ask students who attend Blair who aren’t in the special programs.

PP, are you aware that MCPS has two consortia? The one we are talking about is the Northeast Consortium.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/nec/

Yes.

While Blake is nearby, Paint Branch and Springbrook are not.

As an Olney resident, I can report that most parents opt out of the HGC and middle school magnets because of the long commute. Traffic is a big issue.

Sherwood has always had a small town feel. Those of us who grew up in MoCo remember when it used to be rural out there not too long ago (it’s not anymore). A lot of parents and grandparents went to Sherwood. While the area has diversified, it’s still really small town. There are lots of sahms out here, and the whole vibe is very different from other parts of the county.

Do you run into dozens of people you know at the local grocery store? Does your entire neighborhood go to Sherwood or GC football game every weekend? Do all the parents from school hang out at one of the (many) local beer farms on certain nights? (It’s literally like a high school reunion each week; we’re still drinking in fields, but enjoying craft beer instead of beast).

Give me a break. Your hometown feel preference has no baring on what the goal of the consortia was. Not to mention, it is based on choice and your precious drinking buddies can still send your shiny white kids to Sherwood. But admit it, you are not telling us the real reason you want to insulated in your little Mayberry cocoon.

Sherwood's demographics are relevant in this case because we're talking about a racist incident. I wouldn't consider Sherwood HS 'diverse': 49% white; all other groups are beteen 11-19%. It's the big gap between white and all the other groups that makes it not diverse, by my definition.

When there's such a big racial gap, from my observation, the ugliness of the majority group is more likely to come out. As we can see by Sherwood HS's reputation of having some racist fans (just ask the schools their athletic teams tend to play against).

WJ has a similar demographic makeup (around 49% white; all the other groups in the teens) and has similar problems.

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Anonymous wrote:Practically speaking, nobody was interested in commuting to/from Sherwood and down county schools. Have you driven down Georgia Ave during rush hour? It literally took me 45 mins this morning to get from the heart of Olney to HC hospital. It would easily be 60+ minutes to use other roads to get to most NEC schools.

Plus, holding up Blair as a model of diversity is ridiculous. It’s two schools largely segregated by race thanks to the specialty programs created to keep white students from leaving. Google that history. Ask students who attend Blair who aren’t in the special programs.

PP, are you aware that MCPS has two consortia? The one we are talking about is the Northeast Consortium.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/nec/

Yes.

While Blake is nearby, Paint Branch and Springbrook are not.

As an Olney resident, I can report that most parents opt out of the HGC and middle school magnets because of the long commute. Traffic is a big issue.

Sherwood has always had a small town feel. Those of us who grew up in MoCo remember when it used to be rural out there not too long ago (it’s not anymore). A lot of parents and grandparents went to Sherwood. While the area has diversified, it’s still really small town. There are lots of sahms out here, and the whole vibe is very different from other parts of the county.

Do you run into dozens of people you know at the local grocery store? Does your entire neighborhood go to Sherwood or GC football game every weekend? Do all the parents from school hang out at one of the (many) local beer farms on certain nights? (It’s literally like a high school reunion each week; we’re still drinking in fields, but enjoying craft beer instead of beast).

Not sure if that's what you intended, but you're actually supporting the narrative that the Sherwood HS community is insular, non-inclusive, and non-diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Practically speaking, nobody was interested in commuting to/from Sherwood and down county schools. Have you driven down Georgia Ave during rush hour? It literally took me 45 mins this morning to get from the heart of Olney to HC hospital. It would easily be 60+ minutes to use other roads to get to most NEC schools.

Plus, holding up Blair as a model of diversity is ridiculous. It’s two schools largely segregated by race thanks to the specialty programs created to keep white students from leaving. Google that history. Ask students who attend Blair who aren’t in the special programs.

PP, are you aware that MCPS has two consortia? The one we are talking about is the Northeast Consortium.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/nec/

Yes.

While Blake is nearby, Paint Branch and Springbrook are not.

As an Olney resident, I can report that most parents opt out of the HGC and middle school magnets because of the long commute. Traffic is a big issue.

Sherwood has always had a small town feel. Those of us who grew up in MoCo remember when it used to be rural out there not too long ago (it’s not anymore). A lot of parents and grandparents went to Sherwood. While the area has diversified, it’s still really small town. There are lots of sahms out here, and the whole vibe is very different from other parts of the county.

Do you run into dozens of people you know at the local grocery store? Does your entire neighborhood go to Sherwood or GC football game every weekend? Do all the parents from school hang out at one of the (many) local beer farms on certain nights? (It’s literally like a high school reunion each week; we’re still drinking in fields, but enjoying craft beer instead of beast).

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The NEC has been around since 1998. We are talking over 20 years. Those folks are long out of Sherwood HS. What school does your kid go to? What program are they in? I'm an Einstein parent and I think the situation is terrible but I also hope that maybe at least some kids will realize that words have meaning. I don't think painting the entire community of Olney and Sherwood HS as racist is helpful in building bridges to communication.

I agree that it's not helpful (or accurate) to characterize all of Olney as racist - but 1998 is not ancient history. (Just ask the people who still bring up the rezoning of Horizon Hill from Wootton to RM in 1987.)

LOL I live in HH, and the old timers here are still trying to move this neighborhood back to Wootton, but the parents who have school aged kids want to keep it as part of RM, and the old timers can't understand why.

It's hysterical.

Anonymous wrote:Practically speaking, nobody was interested in commuting to/from Sherwood and down county schools. Have you driven down Georgia Ave during rush hour? It literally took me 45 mins this morning to get from the heart of Olney to HC hospital. It would easily be 60+ minutes to use other roads to get to most NEC schools.

Plus, holding up Blair as a model of diversity is ridiculous. It’s two schools largely segregated by race thanks to the specialty programs created to keep white students from leaving. Google that history. Ask students who attend Blair who aren’t in the special programs.

PP, are you aware that MCPS has two consortia? The one we are talking about is the Northeast Consortium.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/nec/

Practically speaking, nobody was interested in commuting to/from Sherwood and down county schools. Have you driven down Georgia Ave during rush hour? It literally took me 45 mins this morning to get from the heart of Olney to HC hospital. It would easily be 60+ minutes to use other roads to get to most NEC schools.

Plus, holding up Blair as a model of diversity is ridiculous. It’s two schools largely segregated by race thanks to the specialty programs created to keep white students from leaving. Google that history. Ask students who attend Blair who aren’t in the special programs.