Anonymous wrote:Really boring and no characters that you really care about after all those episodes. I think the ending was ok w/ her mom but wow long haul to get there.

Boring? Only boring people would say that. The show is flawed but it has also a lot to chew on.

Really boring and no characters that you really care about after all those episodes. I think the ending was ok w/ her mom but wow long haul to get there.

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Anonymous wrote:I loved it! I’m a bit naive and privileged so I think it helped me see the other side. She just had so many crazies around her that drag her down and I’ve never experienced that.

I loved Nate and wished she would date him. I married a man just like him and he’s such a great dad and husband.

Nate wasn't a good guy. He was offering to help her so long as she met his expectations (Date him). He exemplifies how so many women, who leave abusive relationships fall into other abusive or controlling relationships. He appears as the knight in shining armor but he isn't.

So no, I am glad she didn't date Nate.

DP. I don't think that's fair. Nate was, indeed, a good guy. He gave her the car with no strings attached. He found a place in a good preschool for Maddy. It was only after Alex, Maddy, and Paula moved in with him did he start to see relationship possibilities with Alex. Without his early help, she would never have made it. Yes, he grew jealous of Sean, but that doesn't make him a bad guy. My biggest issue with Nate was his awful beard. He was 99% hair and would have looked so much better without it.

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Anonymous wrote:Also I Googled Stephanie Land and turns out that as she was finishing college and slowly climbing out of poverty she had ANOTHER daughter without a partner... what’s up with poor people and babies?!

I have to agree. I just do not get this. If you can barely afford to keep yourself and a child alive, why on earth would you bring another child into that world?

I’ve made some very stupid decisions in my life, but I never had sex without a condom. In fact, I’ve literally never ever had sex without one because I know that I have terrible taste in men and can’t seem to have successful long term relationships. All this and I want kids, can afford to be a single mother, and have no qualms about abortion. Still…condoms. Always. I feel that I do have a good understanding of the cycle of poverty. But I do not understand this particular issue.

Anonymous wrote:Nate was being kind with strings attached. He tricked her-even if he didn’t mean to. He is the warning sign of why not to go to the next nice man when you leave DV.

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Anonymous wrote:So can someone who has been through something similar or knows someone chime in - is it realistic?
I am having a hard time believing that the only job a college student could get was in cleaning. I had it easier as when my STBX left he paid my rent - had to resort to many gigs before I settled in into a permanent role, including cleaning, and it was easy to find male clients who were working professionals and therefore didn’t leave much mess and weren’t too picky (unlike some female ones).

Yes, it is very realistic.

Daycare for one. How is one supposed to pay for that with no job?

Then there is job experience, she basically had none or lets say she had a little it could take a long time to find a job.

Transportation think about the cars you own. Let's say they are in DH name and he beats the crap out of you, you leave he calls the cops because you stole his car. Guess what that car goes back to him no transportation for you.

Domestic Violence shelters are not always located in places easy for women to commute to work or daycare or schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Also I Googled Stephanie Land and turns out that as she was finishing college and slowly climbing out of poverty she had ANOTHER daughter without a partner... what’s up with poor people and babies?!

I have to agree. I just do not get this. If you can barely afford to keep yourself and a child alive, why on earth would you bring another child into that world?

And this is why we have studies in the cycle of poverty. There is no easy answer, but the early years of childhood are so important in breaking cycles.

Anonymous wrote:Also I Googled Stephanie Land and turns out that as she was finishing college and slowly climbing out of poverty she had ANOTHER daughter without a partner... what’s up with poor people and babies?!

I have to agree. I just do not get this. If you can barely afford to keep yourself and a child alive, why on earth would you bring another child into that world?

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the birthday party ep which was so hard to watch. Take control and kick those morons out!!

Maddy is so, so cute.

I was appalled. The minute that b*tch said she was inviting "her girls" and then her "weed guy," she should have said time to go - this is a three yr. old's party. That was ridiculous. And there was no excuse for it.

I think she was probably scared, standing up to your abuser when you are outnumbered by his friends and your small child is present isn’t easy.

All she had to do is go to her kind and understanding landladies and ask them to call the police on the uninvited. Done.

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I felt for Alex in so many ways but really sick of the *constant* excuse-making and victim-fetishizing. She was a smart young woman who should never have let that group of losers crash her daughter's party. And I agree, the landladies would have absolutely helped her, had she asked.

Anonymous wrote:Also I Googled Stephanie Land and turns out that as she was finishing college and slowly climbing out of poverty she had ANOTHER daughter without a partner... what’s up with poor people and babies?!

I thought the same. Also, she ended up divorcing her husband who she met in Montana because he used to physically beat her. Shows there’s no panacea and patterns are hard to break, I guess?

Nate was being kind with strings attached. He tricked her-even if he didn’t mean to. He is the warning sign of why not to go to the next nice man when you leave DV.