^^ thank you

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Anonymous wrote:dont forget about ED 2 and maybe start thinking now about which school you might ED2. My 2025 student got deferred from Dartmouth ED 1, and then by mid-december got spooked and there were only two schools on her list that had ED2 and she chose one of those and was accepted and shes happy, or I think she is. So it all worked out. But if we'd thought about ed 2 in advance we may have added more schools to the list earlier that had ED 2. It is pretty hard mid-December to add new schools just logistically with all the essays etc.

We had DD make ED1 and ED2 decisions at the same time. She has three Hugh match schools that are very close in her mind. And I do not want her to get deferred or denied in mid DEc and have 2 weeks while she is disappointed over Christmas to make a decision. So, she has Plan A (ED1j), Plan B (ED2), Plans C (4-5 EA and RD schools) and Plan D (Pitt, already admitted).

Never make big decisions when emotions are running high.

I thought one could only apply to one ED as they would be bound to attend if accepted. Could someone please explain how ED1 and ED2 works? Can a kid apply to two schools (ED1 and ED2) at the same time? How it does it work with acceptances?

Applications for ED are due between Oct 15 and Nov 15, and you hear back by mid to late December. If you get in, it is binding. If you don't get in, then you can apply somewhere ED2 (Jan 1 deadline) and you hear by late Feb, and that would be binding.

Anonymous wrote:Seeing a lot of Wake Forest EDs. We don't know much about the school but our DS who will apply next year is interested. We always thought of WF as a "likely" for a B+/B kid from a good local private - Georgetown Prep/Landon. Are we behind the times and is WF much harder to get into now? We have not started our counselor meetings as yet so still operating in a vacuum. Would appreciate feedback on WF especially from parents of kids who have recently graduated or are attending.

Yes, much harder to get into now.

Good luck to your child. Out of all the colleges my kid applied to, they offered DC the most generous FA, and the aid was in the form of institutional grants! Donut-hole gang here, not really relevant to you with the ED

Washington & Lee

NOVA. Gotta lock that seat.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you receive a decision, would most of you consider a "rolled over to regular decision" answer as a soft rejection?

I think it really can depend on the school whether it's a soft rejection.

How do you know it's a soft rejection?

I think it’s more likely to be a soft rejections if the kid is a legacy. They don’t like to outright reject legacies and a waitlist is a bit facesaving.

I think schools with high numbers of applications and high yields are less likely to do soft rejections (aside from legacies). I think some also take the ethical position of letting the kid know they have no shot. This frees the kid up for an ED2 without wondering what if. But schools less certain on their numbers are probably more apt to roll kids over.

Thanks for responding. When you say "less certain on numbers...more apt to roll kids over," does that mean they are waiting to see what their yield is from the ED1 round and the WLed kid may still have some chance? I think my DC may not ED2 if DC gets WLed at ED1 (not legacy) and will hold out hope in getting in later. I worry that it may be a soft rejection and DC might be losing out when there may be better odds in ED2 at another school than holding out for regular.

Not sure it matters to your question but you don't get WL'd from ED1 - you get rejected or deferred. Deferred just means you are put in the regular applicant pool. So that is better than WL'd, given that so many schools don't really admit from the WL. For what it is worth, DC was ED1 at F&M and got deferred to RD. She got in RD, but by then she had found what she thought was a better fit and went there instead. I think that was the right choice. While we are only talking a few months difference, they are important months, especially as they watch their classmates go through the process. That said, I am not opposed to ED at all so long as you can afford it. But lengthening the process (as well as dealing with an ED1 deferral) can have an impact.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you receive a decision, would most of you consider a "rolled over to regular decision" answer as a soft rejection?

I think it really can depend on the school whether it's a soft rejection.

How do you know it's a soft rejection?

I think it’s more likely to be a soft rejections if the kid is a legacy. They don’t like to outright reject legacies and a waitlist is a bit facesaving.

I think schools with high numbers of applications and high yields are less likely to do soft rejections (aside from legacies). I think some also take the ethical position of letting the kid know they have no shot. This frees the kid up for an ED2 without wondering what if. But schools less certain on their numbers are probably more apt to roll kids over.

Thanks for responding. When you say "less certain on numbers...more apt to roll kids over," does that mean they are waiting to see what their yield is from the ED1 round and the WLed kid may still have some chance? I think my DC may not ED2 if DC gets WLed at ED1 (not legacy) and will hold out hope in getting in later. I worry that it may be a soft rejection and DC might be losing out when there may be better odds in ED2 at another school than holding out for regular.

The yield from RD. A situation like Lehigh had with running almost their entire waitlist. The ED yield should be reliably close to 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:dont forget about ED 2 and maybe start thinking now about which school you might ED2. My 2025 student got deferred from Dartmouth ED 1, and then by mid-december got spooked and there were only two schools on her list that had ED2 and she chose one of those and was accepted and shes happy, or I think she is. So it all worked out. But if we'd thought about ed 2 in advance we may have added more schools to the list earlier that had ED 2. It is pretty hard mid-December to add new schools just logistically with all the essays etc.

We had DD make ED1 and ED2 decisions at the same time. She has three Hugh match schools that are very close in her mind. And I do not want her to get deferred or denied in mid DEc and have 2 weeks while she is disappointed over Christmas to make a decision. So, she has Plan A (ED1j), Plan B (ED2), Plans C (4-5 EA and RD schools) and Plan D (Pitt, already admitted).

Never make big decisions when emotions are running high.

I thought one could only apply to one ED as they would be bound to attend if accepted. Could someone please explain how ED1 and ED2 works? Can a kid apply to two schools (ED1 and ED2) at the same time? How it does it work with acceptances?

I assume the poster means that they have decided now what school to apply to EDII if the student doesn’t get into the first school through ED1. You can’t apply simultaneously.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you receive a decision, would most of you consider a "rolled over to regular decision" answer as a soft rejection?

I think it really can depend on the school whether it's a soft rejection.

How do you know it's a soft rejection?

I think it’s more likely to be a soft rejections if the kid is a legacy. They don’t like to outright reject legacies and a waitlist is a bit facesaving.

I think schools with high numbers of applications and high yields are less likely to do soft rejections (aside from legacies). I think some also take the ethical position of letting the kid know they have no shot. This frees the kid up for an ED2 without wondering what if. But schools less certain on their numbers are probably more apt to roll kids over.

Thanks for responding. When you say "less certain on numbers...more apt to roll kids over," does that mean they are waiting to see what their yield is from the ED1 round and the WLed kid may still have some chance? I think my DC may not ED2 if DC gets WLed at ED1 (not legacy) and will hold out hope in getting in later. I worry that it may be a soft rejection and DC might be losing out when there may be better odds in ED2 at another school than holding out for regular.

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Anonymous wrote:dont forget about ED 2 and maybe start thinking now about which school you might ED2. My 2025 student got deferred from Dartmouth ED 1, and then by mid-december got spooked and there were only two schools on her list that had ED2 and she chose one of those and was accepted and shes happy, or I think she is. So it all worked out. But if we'd thought about ed 2 in advance we may have added more schools to the list earlier that had ED 2. It is pretty hard mid-December to add new schools just logistically with all the essays etc.

We had DD make ED1 and ED2 decisions at the same time. She has three Hugh match schools that are very close in her mind. And I do not want her to get deferred or denied in mid DEc and have 2 weeks while she is disappointed over Christmas to make a decision. So, she has Plan A (ED1j), Plan B (ED2), Plans C (4-5 EA and RD schools) and Plan D (Pitt, already admitted).

Never make big decisions when emotions are running high.

I thought one could only apply to one ED as they would be bound to attend if accepted. Could someone please explain how ED1 and ED2 works? Can a kid apply to two schools (ED1 and ED2) at the same time? How it does it work with acceptances?

Anonymous wrote:Seeing a lot of Wake Forest EDs. We don't know much about the school but our DS who will apply next year is interested. We always thought of WF as a "likely" for a B+/B kid from a good local private - Georgetown Prep/Landon. Are we behind the times and is WF much harder to get into now? We have not started our counselor meetings as yet so still operating in a vacuum. Would appreciate feedback on WF especially from parents of kids who have recently graduated or are attending.

It’s a school for kids that reliably get A’s (not necessarily a perfect 4.0) that’s 100% need met. The culture there is very similar to Villanova.

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Anonymous wrote:Once you receive a decision, would most of you consider a "rolled over to regular decision" answer as a soft rejection?

I think it really can depend on the school whether it's a soft rejection.

How do you know it's a soft rejection?

I think it’s more likely to be a soft rejections if the kid is a legacy. They don’t like to outright reject legacies and a waitlist is a bit facesaving.

I think schools with high numbers of applications and high yields are less likely to do soft rejections (aside from legacies). I think some also take the ethical position of letting the kid know they have no shot. This frees the kid up for an ED2 without wondering what if. But schools less certain on their numbers are probably more apt to roll kids over.