Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 15:17     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The State of Michigan has plenty of universities. Michigan State is actually bigger than U o M. Michigan Tech would love more students. As would Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Northern Michigan. And that's just some of the publics. Plenty of space for their Michigan residents.


Yeah, that's the same rhetoric the subverters tried to use in California. When we give tens of thousands of seats at Cal Berkeley, UCLA, UCSD, and UCSB to out of state students, just send your in-state kiddos to Riverside or Cal State. California families rightfully said piss off.

There's also "plenty of space" for New Jersey kids at Rutgers and Montclair State, Maryland kids at Towson and UMBC, and so forth.


This comment makes no sense at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 15:09     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:If California law requires all of their top campuses to be over 80% in-state, why doesn’t Michigan do similar for their Ann Arbor flagship?


Because California has more than 3.5 times the population of Michigan. They also have a huge Asian population that, on the average, places a higher emphasis on getting top grades than any other state. They also fund their campuses much better than Michigan. Residents will not accept 50%, or anywhere near that, for their top schools. Michigan residents can complain, but because the school is controlled by the publicly elected regents, the state can only threaten to cut back on funding. Michigan get so little from the state anymore, the school doesn’t care.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 15:02     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:The state legislature always threatens to withhold funds from Michigan unless they take more in-state students. Michigan Trustees and admin just don't care. The university does not take much state funding and could go private if it wanted to so the residents of the state and government officials just put up with the university's policy. I did feel it was not right for an in-state resident with perfect ACT score to be placed on the waitlist but it is what it is.


If the instate resident didn’t show demonstrated interest in his/her essays, then being deferred or waitlisted is what will sometimes occur.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 14:45     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
The state legislature always threatens to withhold funds from Michigan unless they take more in-state students. Michigan Trustees and admin just don't care. The university does not take much state funding and could go private if it wanted to so the residents of the state and government officials just put up with the university's policy. I did feel it was not right for an in-state resident with perfect ACT score to be placed on the waitlist but it is what it is.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 14:35     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Michigan matriculates over 3000 in staters every year. With an average instate acceptance rate over 40%, I’d say that a pretty generous offering. For example in 2018, Michigan had approximately 12,500 students submit applications with about 5100 acceptances. Approximately 3100 ultimately enrolled. That’s about a 60% instate yield. Considering that Michigan has about 100,000 high school graduates each year, and shrinking, a 5% overall instate admit rate among all high school graduates is right in line with other top notch public universities in this country, including UVA


? you just said it was a 40% instate acceptance rate. They can't accept people who don't apply


Sorry for your confusion. I should have said 5% of all high school graduates in the state of Michigan end up in Ann Arbor so it wouldn’t cause you too much confusion.


?? They can only accept the ones who apply. The acceptance rate for Michigan students who applied for admission is 40%
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 14:33     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
It didn't cause confusion. It just didn't make any sense.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 14:32     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
If California law requires all of their top campuses to be over 80% in-state, why doesn’t Michigan do similar for their Ann Arbor flagship?
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 14:25     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Michigan matriculates over 3000 in staters every year. With an average instate acceptance rate over 40%, I’d say that a pretty generous offering. For example in 2018, Michigan had approximately 12,500 students submit applications with about 5100 acceptances. Approximately 3100 ultimately enrolled. That’s about a 60% instate yield. Considering that Michigan has about 100,000 high school graduates each year, and shrinking, a 5% overall instate admit rate among all high school graduates is right in line with other top notch public universities in this country, including UVA


? you just said it was a 40% instate acceptance rate. They can't accept people who don't apply


Sorry for your confusion. I should have said 5% of all high school graduates in the state of Michigan end up in Ann Arbor so it wouldn’t cause you too much confusion.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 14:21     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Michigan matriculates over 3000 in staters every year. With an average instate acceptance rate over 40%, I’d say that a pretty generous offering. For example in 2018, Michigan had approximately 12,500 students submit applications with about 5100 acceptances. Approximately 3100 ultimately enrolled. That’s about a 60% instate yield. Considering that Michigan has about 100,000 high school graduates each year, and shrinking, a 5% overall instate admit rate among all high school graduates is right in line with other top notch public universities in this country, including UVA


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Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 13:37     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:Michigan matriculates over 3000 in staters every year. With an average instate acceptance rate over 40%, I’d say that a pretty generous offering. For example in 2018, Michigan had approximately 12,500 students submit applications with about 5100 acceptances. Approximately 3100 ultimately enrolled. That’s about a 60% instate yield. Considering that Michigan has about 100,000 high school graduates each year, and shrinking, a 5% overall instate admit rate among all high school graduates is right in line with other top notch public universities in this country, including UVA


? you just said it was a 40% instate acceptance rate. They can't accept people who don't apply
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 13:36     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah my cousin got into Stanford but didn't get into Michigan in state. Very silly.


That because, according to one bozo who posts here, he/she never even applied.


More than qualified high-stat in-state kids are rejected because the university is reserving 50% of the seats for OOS kids. This has been well known and a constant complaint for decades, thus, many high-stat 12th graders don't even waste time applying. Most families don't enjoy setting a $75 app fee on fire or wasting time just to be punched in the stomach.


I doubt many high stat 12th graders decline to apply to the school based on a fear of rejection. If they aren’t applying, it’s because they feel Michigan isn’t for them. With an over 40% acceptance rate instate, the facts prove your statement to be incorrect.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 13:33     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Michigan matriculates over 3000 in staters every year. With an average instate acceptance rate over 40%, I’d say that a pretty generous offering. For example in 2018, Michigan had approximately 12,500 students submit applications with about 5100 acceptances. Approximately 3100 ultimately enrolled. That’s about a 60% instate yield. Considering that Michigan has about 100,000 high school graduates each year, and shrinking, a 5% overall instate admit rate among all high school graduates is right in line with other top notch public universities in this country, including UVA
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 13:05     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah my cousin got into Stanford but didn't get into Michigan in state. Very silly.


That because, according to one bozo who posts here, he/she never even applied.


More than qualified high-stat in-state kids are rejected because the university is reserving 50% of the seats for OOS kids. This has been well known and a constant complaint for decades, thus, many high-stat 12th graders don't even waste time applying. Most families don't enjoy setting a $75 app fee on fire or wasting time just to be punched in the stomach.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 13:00     Subject: Re:Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hmmm... because they don't have enough in-state Michigan H.S. grads to fill more of the spots?


Virginia doesn't have this problem. U.Va. could be filled and then some just with smart NOVA grads


Virginia’s flagship has close to 40% fewer undergraduates.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2021 12:41     Subject: Why does the State of Michigan allow its flagship UMich to be 50% out of state students?
Well, Michigan has water, and lots of it. The future relies on direct access to fresh water.