Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:52     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


If there was off gassing there would be other wildlife dead around the area.
Police and scientists who commented have ruled out toxic gas as a reason.

It’s possible one of the adults put cyanide in their water as FA, but it’s bizarre to me to go on a long hike to kill the whole family plus dog with poisoned water unless he/she thought why not go out doing the activity we all loved to do together.


Police said they have ruled out chemicals on the trail. Tbh, I'm not sure what that means. Oil spill on the trail? Flame retardant?

They seem to have backed off of the carbon monoxide theory because it's so unlikely, but they haven't ruled it out.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:50     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

One time I saw someone faint from heat stroke, without saying a word. Never said she wasn't feeling well. One second fine, the next she just fell over. You'd think if that happened, the other parent would try to high tail it out of there, but it wouldn't be possible if they both were feeling faint.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:49     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


If that’s the case, would it affect the surrounding wildlife in the area?


Wild life have sense of smells thousands of times more sensitive to toxic gas. They'd stay away. That's why they used canaries in mines.


Lol NO. The canary was used in the mine because it DIED first when there was toxic gas. Not because it could smell it and run away.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:45     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


If there was off gassing there would be other wildlife dead around the area.
Police and scientists who commented have ruled out toxic gas as a reason.

It’s possible one of the adults put cyanide in their water as FA, but it’s bizarre to me to go on a long hike to kill the whole family plus dog with poisoned water unless he/she thought why not go out doing the activity we all loved to do together.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:31     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?


The Earth..



Or maybe from the water. Toxic algae can be extremely toxic, including fumes around it.


What in the earth produced the fumes? What water? They were at least 1/2 mile from the river.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:19     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


If that’s the case, would it affect the surrounding wildlife in the area?


Wild life have sense of smells thousands of times more sensitive to toxic gas. They'd stay away. That's why they used canaries in mines.


What are you blathering about? Canaries/sense of smell/mines??? Canaries are used to detect carbon monoxide in mines because they succumb to carbon monoxide long before humans do allowing miners to escape. They don’t smell toxic gas and run away.


That PP clearly just misunderstood the expression.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:15     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


If that’s the case, would it affect the surrounding wildlife in the area?


Wild life have sense of smells thousands of times more sensitive to toxic gas. They'd stay away. That's why they used canaries in mines.


What are you blathering about? Canaries/sense of smell/mines??? Canaries are used to detect carbon monoxide in mines because they succumb to carbon monoxide long before humans do allowing miners to escape. They don’t smell toxic gas and run away.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:11     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?


The Earth..



Or maybe from the water. Toxic algae can be extremely toxic, including fumes around it.


*sigh*

Y’all are going in circles.

[It was murder/suicide.]


I'm usually the first person to shout THE HUSBAND DID IT. But there are way easier and faster ways to die/kill your family than deliberately baking yourself to death for 4 hours in the desert sun. Plus he or she had no assurances everyone was dead if s/he was dying at the same time.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:07     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?


The Earth..



Or maybe from the water. Toxic algae can be extremely toxic, including fumes around it.


*sigh*

Y’all are going in circles.

[It was murder/suicide.]


When the ones who have seen the scene say that it wasn't murder, they're talking to you.

Knock it off.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:04     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?


The Earth..



Or maybe from the water. Toxic algae can be extremely toxic, including fumes around it.


*sigh*

Y’all are going in circles.

[It was murder/suicide.]
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 20:01     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?


The Earth..



Or maybe from the water. Toxic algae can be extremely toxic, including fumes around it.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 19:50     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?


The Earth..

Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 19:50     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


If that’s the case, would it affect the surrounding wildlife in the area?


Wild life have sense of smells thousands of times more sensitive to toxic gas. They'd stay away. That's why they used canaries in mines.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 19:48     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like toxic gas. High exposure to hydrogen sulfide gas from the Earth or cyanide somehow.


From what?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 19:45     Subject: What happened to this California family?

One thing that steers me away from heat is that if it were me I would try to cool baby down by wetting a shirt or bandana and wrapping baby in it or putting on baby’s neck or head. Obviously the investigators don’t mention but seeing clothes or bandanas on necks would be a big clue that trying to cool selves off. The police don’t mention heat exhaustion at all though even if not 100%.