Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:50
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When was the last time a cop was found guilty of murder for killing someone who was resisting arrest? Ever?
The prosection did an excellent job. Even still, they never convict in these cases. Except this one.
The ACLU said this is the first time in Minnesota state history that a white police officer has been held accountable for killing a Black man.
And Ari Melber at MSNBC tweeted that from 2005 to 2015, across thousands of police killings, the number of police officers convicted of murder for shooting a person was zero.
How many of those “thousands” of police killings were white? Did Ari say?
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:49
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
I’m worried about Chauvin’s safety in prison. I can’t imagine what he’s feeling tonight. (K, flame me for sympathy for the devil, whatever. I like to look at things from the other side.)
Eric Nelson looked close to tears after the verdict—his glasses were even a little foggy. I can’t imagine what he feels either.
Eric Nelson looked close to tears after the verdict—his glasses were even a little foggy. I can’t imagine what he feels either.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:47
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When was the last time a cop was found guilty of murder for killing someone who was resisting arrest? Ever?
The prosection did an excellent job. Even still, they never convict in these cases. Except this one.
The ACLU said this is the first time in Minnesota state history that a white police officer has been held accountable for killing a Black man.
And Ari Melber at MSNBC tweeted that from 2005 to 2015, across thousands of police killings, the number of police officers convicted of murder for shooting a person was zero.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:44
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Am humbled by George Floyd’s brothers thanking God.
With God, we can all heal.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:38
Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
If Trump had won the election, I wonder what he would have had to say, and if the people hollering about Waters would have criticized him. Stupid question, I know.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:38
Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Wait, this is the first night Chauvin will spend in prison? Was that the first time he was hand-cuffed?
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:37
Subject: Re:Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
^^well, July, looking at the url
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:29
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His attorneys will almost certainly appeal.
It will absolutely go nowhere.
Correct. It was a sound trial, the jury delivered their verdict. There’s nothing to overturn. They will appeal but he’s done. As he should be.
Agree. Time to stop calling this country systemically racist. Pockets, yes, systemic racism? No. This is the least racist country in the world right now.
Oh my lord. Is that your takeaway? This sounds like "we have a black president, we must be post racist now." We are so screwed.
Wherever you believe there’s systemic racism today, please say where exactly.... right here.
Sure. Off the cuff - Black folks get higher loan rates than whites, even when you control for financial factors, credit scores, etc. Black people are routinely given harsher sentences for similar charges, even when their criminal record a) doesn't exist or b) is "better" than a white defendant. Black people routinely have poorer health outcomes, and researchers can't really scientifically figure out why (hint - it's racism). Black children's traits are labeled negatively, while the same traits are labeled in a positive manner for White children.
Shall I go on?
Don't bother. Unless you can name a specific bank and a specific county or school, you (me) are just making it up. Nothing you say will convince people who are more attached to the feeling of being right than actually being right. ANd I give it maybe one post before he.she comes out with some version of "it takes one to know one."
You really do not understand the definition of systemic, do you? Part of it is that you can't necessarily isolate the issue to how one entity exhibits it, because different aspects of society affect each other. Greater likelihood of being suspended or dropping out from school (the school to prison pipeline). Greater likelihood of arrest for conduct more likely to be ignored when committed by whites. Plea deals for minor offenses in order to avoid being stuck in jail when you can't afford bail (I do know people who plead to offenses where they would have a very good chance of acquittal. There's a surprising number of people who, strangely enough, get arrested for resisting without charges for what they were supposedly being arrested for). Harder time getting jobs as a result.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:25
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:When was the last time a cop was found guilty of murder for killing someone who was resisting arrest? Ever?
The prosection did an excellent job. Even still, they never convict in these cases. Except this one.
The ACLU said this is the first time in Minnesota state history that a white police officer has been held accountable for killing a Black man.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:23
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
don't allow the racists and trolls to derail this thread. Do not argue with them. Do not try to convince them with facts, there's no convincing them. No answer will ever be good enough. Just hit the report button, folks Report. the rEport, and ignore.
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:18
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His attorneys will almost certainly appeal.
It will absolutely go nowhere.
Correct. It was a sound trial, the jury delivered their verdict. There’s nothing to overturn. They will appeal but he’s done. As he should be.
Agree. Time to stop calling this country systemically racist. Pockets, yes, systemic racism? No. This is the least racist country in the world right now.
Oh my lord. Is that your takeaway? This sounds like "we have a black president, we must be post racist now." We are so screwed.
Wherever you believe there’s systemic racism today, please say where exactly.... right here.
Housing, banking, justice system, schooling, employment....
What bank? Which school? Which workplace?
If you don’t call out SPECIFIC places, no one can fix anything. So again, please share where exactly there’s “systemic” racism.
See - you are asking for pockets, not systems. The PP gave you systems.
Actually - remember when the CEO of Wells Fargo said there was a small pool of black talent which explained the company's lack of diversity? That's a perfect example of a pocket of racism in a racist system. Even if he decided they only wanted Harvard Business School graduates, there were 52 in the class that entered in 2020. Multiply that by 10. You have 520 people to choose from (yes, I am oversimplifying this). And then add in Yale. And Columbia. And on and on. So...why make that statement?
Good to know that Wells Fargo is the only company recruiting new MBAs and they can hire anyone they choose.
You wanted a specific example. I gave you a recent, specific example that is ON THE RECORD, with a CEO saying he can't find Black talent.
Perhaps you didn’t know the law held them accountable... because someone REPORTED them. Now you need to report systemic racism. DP
Are you serious right now? Do you not understand how pockets/anecdotes of racism relate to systemic racism?
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:16
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
I said we are screwed because it seems like some people believe that this one verdict washes the slate clean and makes racism magically disappear...
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:10
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His attorneys will almost certainly appeal.
It will absolutely go nowhere.
Correct. It was a sound trial, the jury delivered their verdict. There’s nothing to overturn. They will appeal but he’s done. As he should be.
Agree. Time to stop calling this country systemically racist. Pockets, yes, systemic racism? No. This is the least racist country in the world right now.
Oh my lord. Is that your takeaway? This sounds like "we have a black president, we must be post racist now." We are so screwed.
Wherever you believe there’s systemic racism today, please say where exactly.... right here.
Housing, banking, justice system, schooling, employment....
What bank? Which school? Which workplace?
If you don’t call out SPECIFIC places, no one can fix anything. So again, please share where exactly there’s “systemic” racism.
See - you are asking for pockets, not systems. The PP gave you systems.
Actually - remember when the CEO of Wells Fargo said there was a small pool of black talent which explained the company's lack of diversity? That's a perfect example of a pocket of racism in a racist system. Even if he decided they only wanted Harvard Business School graduates, there were 52 in the class that entered in 2020. Multiply that by 10. You have 520 people to choose from (yes, I am oversimplifying this). And then add in Yale. And Columbia. And on and on. So...why make that statement?
Good to know that Wells Fargo is the only company recruiting new MBAs and they can hire anyone they choose.
You wanted a specific example. I gave you a recent, specific example that is ON THE RECORD, with a CEO saying he can't find Black talent.
Perhaps you didn’t know the law held them accountable... because someone REPORTED them. Now you need to report systemic racism. DP
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:08
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good that Keith Ellison is begging people to stay peaceful.
Enough violence already.
Why would they riot not? They got the verdict they wanted?[/quotshpuld read # riot now
Your bias is showing. “That side” is not the only one capable of violence. NPR JUST reported that someone tried to drive into a crowd of rejoicers in Minneapolis: which side do you think that driver was on?
Anonymous
04/20/2021 18:08
Subject: Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His attorneys will almost certainly appeal.
It will absolutely go nowhere.
Correct. It was a sound trial, the jury delivered their verdict. There’s nothing to overturn. They will appeal but he’s done. As he should be.
Agree. Time to stop calling this country systemically racist. Pockets, yes, systemic racism? No. This is the least racist country in the world right now.
Oh my lord. Is that your takeaway? This sounds like "we have a black president, we must be post racist now." We are so screwed.
Wherever you believe there’s systemic racism today, please say where exactly.... right here.
Housing, banking, justice system, schooling, employment....
What bank? Which school? Which workplace?
If you don’t call out SPECIFIC places, no one can fix anything. So again, please share where exactly there’s “systemic” racism.
See - you are asking for pockets, not systems. The PP gave you systems.
Actually - remember when the CEO of Wells Fargo said there was a small pool of black talent which explained the company's lack of diversity? That's a perfect example of a pocket of racism in a racist system. Even if he decided they only wanted Harvard Business School graduates, there were 52 in the class that entered in 2020. Multiply that by 10. You have 520 people to choose from (yes, I am oversimplifying this). And then add in Yale. And Columbia. And on and on. So...why make that statement?
Good to know that Wells Fargo is the only company recruiting new MBAs and they can hire anyone they choose.
You wanted a specific example. I gave you a recent, specific example that is ON THE RECORD, with a CEO saying he can't find Black talent.