Safety plan

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Let's just for a minute think like the kids. Why do they really want to go to the playground by themselves?

Answer: To get away from their parents or exercise independence and show maturity?

My children want to go to the playground by themselves because they think it's fun.

I really didn't care whether my parents came to the playground with me or not. When they were there they chatted with other parents or read a book. It wasn't as if they were involved in what I was doing or cramping my style.

That's nice. My children do care, though. Different people are different people!

What is it that your kids think is so much fun about going to the park without an adult with them?

Really? Is this what both kids said to you in a private exclusive interview? Or was it from the parents?

They like being out on their own. They like being independent. They like being unsupervised. They like being able to make their own decisions. They like the feeling of being responsible for themselves.

What is it about being unsupervised that they like so much? What do they do without an adult with them that they can't do with an adult? Lots of bad things happened to kids in the old days when kids just ran around wild that wouldn't have happened if an adult were supervising.

How old are the parents in this case? Do they have personal experience of growing up with very little adult supervision? I did grow up that way myself and that is exactly why I wanted to make better choices in parenting my own kids.

Interested in the answers to these questions.

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Anonymous wrote:What was CPS doing while they held the children for two hours?

Getting someone with ANY authority to answer the phone on a Sunday. Just my guess.

I think so too, which is why some heads need to roll at CPS. I assume they have a rotation of people on call every weekend, since child abuse can happy at any time day or night. The person who didn't respond to the officer's call in a timely manner deserves a reprimand or firing.

CPS is a crap shoot. That's why I haven't filed reports when maybe I should have. You never know if things would turn out better, or worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I think CPS is currently pursuing an investigation since the idiot parents flagrantly disregarded the parenting plan they recently signed the last time CPS investigated them. Duh.

What does the parenting plan say, exactly? Do you know?

Actually, let's back up. DID the parents sign a parenting plan? There's no mention of it here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/decision-in-free-range-case-does-not-end-debate-about-parenting-and-safety/2015/03/02/5a919454-c04d-11e4-ad5c-3b8ce89f1b89_story.html

It was a safety ... They signed it before court.

Actually, I thought the parents had hired a lawyer since someone keeps posting a link to a site collecting money for their legal fees.

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why so many people are opposed to CPS unless it is the same poster stating it over and over and over and over.....

For those of us who haven't had any run ins with CPS or police who are accusing us of neglect, we tend to feel a lot more neutral on the subject. I have to believe that the parents are on this thread posting all of this anti CPS/nanny state crap because they are pushing their obvious agenda.

Why are you using your children to put yourselves in the spotlight?

I'm not opposed to cps as a general concept. I hope they investigate and take care of kids who are being abused and neglected. I happen to strongly believe these kids don't fall into either category. I think the police and cps are doing more damage to those kids by holding them for hours, than their parents did by letting them play at the park by themselves for an hour.

And for the record, this is my first post on this thread, and I have no connection to the parents. I just think people are irrationally fearful, and we've reached a point where the govt is enforcing those fears, and I don't think that's good for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the parents should pay for their own lawyer. But if they aren't inclined to supervise their kids, are you surprised they are expecting the community to pay their legal fees? I'm not surprised.

Pro Bono means the firm is covering the expenses, not the community. No need to shed a tear for a large law firm helping of their own free will. I'm guessing PPP is 2 mil a year.

Oh! PP thought "pro bono" meant Legal Aid.

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why so many people are opposed to CPS unless it is the same poster stating it over and over and over and over.....

For those of us who haven't had any run ins with CPS or police who are accusing us of neglect, we tend to feel a lot more neutral on the subject. I have to believe that the parents are on this thread posting all of this anti CPS/nanny state crap because they are pushing their obvious agenda.

Why are you using your children to put yourselves in the spotlight?

I haven't noticed anybody who is opposed to CPS in principle. Could you be more specific, please?

Also, I'm amused that you would think it's the parents posting. I think they're probably quite busy at the moment. Do you find it impossible to imagine that there are posters on DCUM who are not involved in the case and believe that CPS overreached?

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Anonymous wrote:What was CPS doing while they held the children for two hours?

Getting someone with ANY authority to answer the phone on a Sunday. Just my guess.

I think so too, which is why some heads need to roll at CPS. I assume they have a rotation of people on call every weekend, since child abuse can happy at any time day or night. The person who didn't respond to the officer's call in a timely manner deserves a reprimand or firing.

I can't understand why so many people are opposed to CPS unless it is the same poster stating it over and over and over and over.....

For those of us who haven't had any run ins with CPS or police who are accusing us of neglect, we tend to feel a lot more neutral on the subject. I have to believe that the parents are on this thread posting all of this anti CPS/nanny state crap because they are pushing their obvious agenda.

Why are you using your children to put yourselves in the spotlight?

Anonymous wrote:What was CPS doing while they held the children for two hours?

Getting someone with ANY authority to answer the phone on a Sunday. Just my guess.

What was CPS doing while they held the children for two hours?

Anonymous wrote:Hold up...a firm is taking their case pro bono??? You've got to be kidding! Which firm? Do we know the lawyer's name? Super curious.

The firm is Wiley Rein.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/free-range-parents-plan-to-file-lawsuit-after-police-pick-up-children/2015/04/14/ed4f7658-e2b7-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html

Anonymous wrote:Hold up...a firm is taking their case pro bono??? You've got to be kidding! Which firm? Do we know the lawyer's name? Super curious.

Wiley Rein, and one of the lawyers is Matthew Dowd.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/free-range-parents-plan-to-file-lawsuit-after-police-pick-up-children/2015/04/14/ed4f7658-e2b7-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html

Hold up...a firm is taking their case pro bono??? You've got to be kidding! Which firm? Do we know the lawyer's name? Super curious.