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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

DP. You are making a broad assumption (ass out of you and you) that everyone doubting Lyndsey supported Ford's recitation of history. Just stop. It shows a lack of an inability to reason. For me, Kavanaugh was unwanted for other reasons, such as his support of Bush v. Gore, his judicial decisions, and his obvious push to dismantle Roe v Wade. Susan Collins knew this man would help to dismantle Roe, she just didn't expect it so soon and with such a strong rip-the-bandaid-off approach. And I would present to you that a lifetime position on the SCOTUS is far more powerful than a six-year seat in a 100-member Senate body.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

That's definitely what Lyndsey and her advocates would have you believe.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

Yeah right, I doubt Kavanaugh even had 65 female friends in high school to begin with, let alone them remembering who the hell he was back then.

DP. You're completely proving the PPs point. You don't want to believe any support of Kavanaugh because you don't like him. And yet, he has/had tons of female friends, both in high school, and as an adult. RBG praised him for being the justice who hired the most female clerks. But I'm sure you've totally dismissed those facts.

Not at all. It's not credible in the first place. That "letter" was released within FOUR HOURS of Ford's allegations becoming public. You couldn't possibly reach out to 65 different women who you hadn't been in contact with for decades and get them to sign on to a letter that quickly. Clearly there is something very fishy about that "letter" - if anything the letter would have had to have been organized months in advance of allegations, if it was even real at all. That's not my opinion, either - numerous reporters and commentators believed the letter was fishy. First of all, they weren't high school classmates, as Georgetown Prep where Kavanaugh attended was an all-boys school. The women whose names appeared attended totally different schools or were friends of friends who didn't even know Kavanaugh well. Additionally, numerous women who allegedly signed the letter were either unable to be reached for followup by reporters, or when contacted said thy felt misled, they signed before knowing any of the details, or that they never would have signed, knowing what they later found out about the allegations.

I could go on the class year insta page for my high school and get probably 150 signatures for something important within an hour. Have you ever used social media.

Sure, kid. Except, Kavanaugh isn't from the Instagram generation, genius. He wouldn't even have 150 high school classmates on that platform to begin with.

Idk I’m Gen X and we have a high school IG account and a Facebook group with 200 or so people. Doesn’t seem that weird or unusual.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

Yeah right, I doubt Kavanaugh even had 65 female friends in high school to begin with, let alone them remembering who the hell he was back then.

DP. You're completely proving the PPs point. You don't want to believe any support of Kavanaugh because you don't like him. And yet, he has/had tons of female friends, both in high school, and as an adult. RBG praised him for being the justice who hired the most female clerks. But I'm sure you've totally dismissed those facts.

Not at all. It's not credible in the first place. That "letter" was released within FOUR HOURS of Ford's allegations becoming public. You couldn't possibly reach out to 65 different women who you hadn't been in contact with for decades and get them to sign on to a letter that quickly. Clearly there is something very fishy about that "letter" - if anything the letter would have had to have been organized months in advance of allegations, if it was even real at all. That's not my opinion, either - numerous reporters and commentators believed the letter was fishy. First of all, they weren't high school classmates, as Georgetown Prep where Kavanaugh attended was an all-boys school. The women whose names appeared attended totally different schools or were friends of friends who didn't even know Kavanaugh well. Additionally, numerous women who allegedly signed the letter were either unable to be reached for followup by reporters, or when contacted said thy felt misled, they signed before knowing any of the details, or that they never would have signed, knowing what they later found out about the allegations.

I could go on the class year insta page for my high school and get probably 150 signatures for something important within an hour. Have you ever used social media.

Sure, kid. Except, Kavanaugh isn't from the Instagram generation, genius. He wouldn't even have 150 high school classmates on that platform to begin with.

And he didn’t have any high school classmates who were women.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

Yeah right, I doubt Kavanaugh even had 65 female friends in high school to begin with, let alone them remembering who the hell he was back then.

DP. You're completely proving the PPs point. You don't want to believe any support of Kavanaugh because you don't like him. And yet, he has/had tons of female friends, both in high school, and as an adult. RBG praised him for being the justice who hired the most female clerks. But I'm sure you've totally dismissed those facts.

Not at all. It's not credible in the first place. That "letter" was released within FOUR HOURS of Ford's allegations becoming public. You couldn't possibly reach out to 65 different women who you hadn't been in contact with for decades and get them to sign on to a letter that quickly. Clearly there is something very fishy about that "letter" - if anything the letter would have had to have been organized months in advance of allegations, if it was even real at all. That's not my opinion, either - numerous reporters and commentators believed the letter was fishy. First of all, they weren't high school classmates, as Georgetown Prep where Kavanaugh attended was an all-boys school. The women whose names appeared attended totally different schools or were friends of friends who didn't even know Kavanaugh well. Additionally, numerous women who allegedly signed the letter were either unable to be reached for followup by reporters, or when contacted said thy felt misled, they signed before knowing any of the details, or that they never would have signed, knowing what they later found out about the allegations.

I could go on the class year insta page for my high school and get probably 150 signatures for something important within an hour. Have you ever used social media.

Sure, kid. Except, Kavanaugh isn't from the Instagram generation, genius. He wouldn't even have 150 high school classmates on that platform to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

Yeah right, I doubt Kavanaugh even had 65 female friends in high school to begin with, let alone them remembering who the hell he was back then.

DP. You're completely proving the PPs point. You don't want to believe any support of Kavanaugh because you don't like him. And yet, he has/had tons of female friends, both in high school, and as an adult. RBG praised him for being the justice who hired the most female clerks. But I'm sure you've totally dismissed those facts.

Not at all. It's not credible in the first place. That "letter" was released within FOUR HOURS of Ford's allegations becoming public. You couldn't possibly reach out to 65 different women who you hadn't been in contact with for decades and get them to sign on to a letter that quickly. Clearly there is something very fishy about that "letter" - if anything the letter would have had to have been organized months in advance of allegations, if it was even real at all. That's not my opinion, either - numerous reporters and commentators believed the letter was fishy. First of all, they weren't high school classmates, as Georgetown Prep where Kavanaugh attended was an all-boys school. The women whose names appeared attended totally different schools or were friends of friends who didn't even know Kavanaugh well. Additionally, numerous women who allegedly signed the letter were either unable to be reached for followup by reporters, or when contacted said thy felt misled, they signed before knowing any of the details, or that they never would have signed, knowing what they later found out about the allegations.

I could go on the class year insta page for my high school and get probably 150 signatures for something important within an hour. Have you ever used social media.

Meanwhile we STILL don't know who paid off Kavanaugh's mortgage and extensive debts.....

Shady AF.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

Yeah right, I doubt Kavanaugh even had 65 female friends in high school to begin with, let alone them remembering who the hell he was back then.

DP. You're completely proving the PPs point. You don't want to believe any support of Kavanaugh because you don't like him. And yet, he has/had tons of female friends, both in high school, and as an adult. RBG praised him for being the justice who hired the most female clerks. But I'm sure you've totally dismissed those facts.

Not at all. It's not credible in the first place. That "letter" was released within FOUR HOURS of Ford's allegations becoming public. You couldn't possibly reach out to 65 different women who you hadn't been in contact with for decades and get them to sign on to a letter that quickly. Clearly there is something very fishy about that "letter" - if anything the letter would have had to have been organized months in advance of allegations, if it was even real at all. That's not my opinion, either - numerous reporters and commentators believed the letter was fishy. First of all, they weren't high school classmates, as Georgetown Prep where Kavanaugh attended was an all-boys school. The women whose names appeared attended totally different schools or were friends of friends who didn't even know Kavanaugh well. Additionally, numerous women who allegedly signed the letter were either unable to be reached for followup by reporters, or when contacted said thy felt misled, they signed before knowing any of the details, or that they never would have signed, knowing what they later found out about the allegations.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember: NYT reached out to Fifield. Not vice versa.

Yep. And she provided them with everything needed to verify her allegations. They chose not to publish those.

Probably because they followed up on them and found them to be not credible. That's one of those funny things about journalism.

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Anonymous wrote:I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

I just wrote a blog post about this. Lyndsey Fifield herself started an organization aimed at discrediting Christine Blasey Ford. This was just a couple of years after Fifield says that she had been in an abusive relationship. If her relationship with Platner was as abusive as she says, she doesn't appear to have gained much empathy from it. Regardless, as I wrote in my blog, it is reasonable to have the same doubts about Fifield as Fifield clearly had about Blasey Ford.

Except that anyone who "had doubts" about CBF was called all sorts of names for not "believing all women." Remember that?
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That’s what is happening to those who have doubts about Fifield, including by you.

You seem to be deliberately ignoring the point - which is why were so many Democrats, including you, so utterly outraged over an allegation of teenaged groping, yet now so completely willing to chalk up Platner's bad behavior and comments as "he was young and stupid, all is forgiven"?

Not to mention, why did you believe CBF without reservation (even with zero substantiation) but now call Fifield a liar - when she actually does have evidence in the form of old text messages? Don't you find this just a wee bit hypocritical?

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

Yeah right, I doubt Kavanaugh even had 65 female friends in high school to begin with, let alone them remembering who the hell he was back then.

DP. You're completely proving the PPs point. You don't want to believe any support of Kavanaugh because you don't like him. And yet, he has/had tons of female friends, both in high school, and as an adult. RBG praised him for being the justice who hired the most female clerks. But I'm sure you've totally dismissed those facts.

Anonymous wrote:Remember: NYT reached out to Fifield. Not vice versa.

Yep. And she provided them with everything needed to verify her allegations. They chose not to publish those.

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Anonymous wrote:If you compare base facts between Kavanaugh and Platner, Platner comes off worse. I personally do not see how anyone who believed Ford and opposed Kavanaugh can support Platner. Kavanaugh was a high schooler at the time of the alleged assault and there was no contemporaneous evidence of the alleged assault, whereas Platner was an adult and there is some contemporaneous evidence, albeit imperfect. Ford went first to Anna Eshoo and then Feinstein, Platner’s accuser is a conservative activist (but this happened in the days before DC was so polarized; that sort of dating wasn’t rare); that washes out. There are more women allegedly in the wings with more than there were with Kavanaugh. And, there weren’t any adult accusations of Kavanaugh, it was from when he was a teen.

I am genuinely trying to understand how Democrats that wholeheartedly supported Ford can continue to support Platner and even worse, attack the woman who came forward so viciously. It seems completely hypocritical.

Probably because the other five women had an entirely different experience, and they are also not attached to a political agenda as this one woman obviously is. Also, why is everyone calling it sexual assault? Where was the sexual assault allegation, or is it simply that her gender makes it sexual?

So again, all of the other women who had relationships with Platner and said he was a decent guy and was not at all abusive are all a bunch of lying scumbags to be ignored?

Did you ignore the 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in high school at the time of the alleged assault and signed a letter of support for him?

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/04/654303304/longtime-friend-defends-kavanaugh-against-sexual-assault-allegations

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Right? Of course she did. So much hypocrisy here.