Anonymous
08/29/2025 21:57
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
It looks like futsal is staying BY at least for this year. All of the ID sessions that I’ve seen have been organized by BY.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 20:50
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:There will be disruption, but a lot of comments here are typical toxic youth soccer trash talk. RAE isn't a magic wand, it happens over years -- which means many of the Jan-Aug players will likely hold their own, especially for any team currently playing 11v11. Don't forget each time likely will be losing their current Aug-Dec players.
And RL players? Their best shot to get to an NL club will be changing clubs and it won't be easy.
On top of that, you have club politics that will affect rosters, except for the elite of elites who are utterly ruthless (already) but they won't be taking RL players.
Just check the past summer tournaments, younger ECNL teams get destroyed by older RL or even local teams when playing up.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 20:49
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean actual studies come to a very different conclusion but because you say it, it must be true.
Yes aug/sept birthdays that come up in a SY system will be a larger percentage of starters.
No aug/sept birthdays that came up in a BY system but suddently switch to SY will not be a larger percentage of starters.
They will get an initial boost but over time they will find their way to the bench in SY just like they did in BY.
Aug to Nov. players will be the majority and take the starter position just as Jan to Apr. players are doing now. In tournaments this summer, when you see younger Nls play up, they get destroyed by older RL teams.
Aug to Nov. players are not only older, but also trained with older players from the beginning. I would say 4 or 5 younger NL players remain in the top ECNL program.
This. Any August to November kid, and mine isn’t one, that had made it to the NL team at say U14 is an absolutely baller who beat the odds and has been training with and against older kids for years.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 20:28
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:RAE magically goes away after 6 months? No one is saying a middling third team Q4 is going to go down and dominate. They will move up a tier 2nd to 3rd. The truth is those that are sitting on the bench on top teams or dominating 2nd teams are going to have a huge advantage and it isn't going to disappear.
Yes RAE goes away after 6 months.
Older trapped players that get minutes with their current BY team will likely just stay where they're at.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 20:11
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
There will be disruption, but a lot of comments here are typical toxic youth soccer trash talk. RAE isn't a magic wand, it happens over years -- which means many of the Jan-Aug players will likely hold their own, especially for any team currently playing 11v11. Don't forget each time likely will be losing their current Aug-Dec players.
And RL players? Their best shot to get to an NL club will be changing clubs and it won't be easy.
On top of that, you have club politics that will affect rosters, except for the elite of elites who are utterly ruthless (already) but they won't be taking RL players.
And RL players? Their best shot to get to an NL club will be changing clubs and it won't be easy.
On top of that, you have club politics that will affect rosters, except for the elite of elites who are utterly ruthless (already) but they won't be taking RL players.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 20:07
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean actual studies come to a very different conclusion but because you say it, it must be true.
Yes aug/sept birthdays that come up in a SY system will be a larger percentage of starters.
No aug/sept birthdays that came up in a BY system but suddently switch to SY will not be a larger percentage of starters.
They will get an initial boost but over time they will find their way to the bench in SY just like they did in BY.
Aug to Nov. players will be the majority and take the starter position just as Jan to Apr. players are doing now. In tournaments this summer, when you see younger Nls play up, they get destroyed by older RL teams.
Aug to Nov. players are not only older, but also trained with older players from the beginning. I would say 4 or 5 younger NL players remain in the top ECNL program.
I can guarantee some ECNL teams will be almost completely replaced. Parents have no idea what’s coming.
Every Q3/4 ECNL player will be able to go down and take a roster spot. I don’t think parent realize their kids aren’t special they’ve just competed against kids their exact same age. RAE is real.
The only difference will be there just isn’t as many Q3/4 playing at the top levels but definitely enough to fill all the top teams for ECNL clubs GA going to get most of the RL Q3/4 player and all the ECNL kids that lose their spot.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 19:41
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean actual studies come to a very different conclusion but because you say it, it must be true.
Yes aug/sept birthdays that come up in a SY system will be a larger percentage of starters.
No aug/sept birthdays that came up in a BY system but suddently switch to SY will not be a larger percentage of starters.
They will get an initial boost but over time they will find their way to the bench in SY just like they did in BY.
Aug to Nov. players will be the majority and take the starter position just as Jan to Apr. players are doing now. In tournaments this summer, when you see younger Nls play up, they get destroyed by older RL teams.
Aug to Nov. players are not only older, but also trained with older players from the beginning. I would say 4 or 5 younger NL players remain in the top ECNL program.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 19:40
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
RAE magically goes away after 6 months? No one is saying a middling third team Q4 is going to go down and dominate. They will move up a tier 2nd to 3rd. The truth is those that are sitting on the bench on top teams or dominating 2nd teams are going to have a huge advantage and it isn't going to disappear.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 19:38
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean actual studies come to a very different conclusion but because you say it, it must be true.
Yes aug/sept birthdays that come up in a SY system will be a larger percentage of starters.
No aug/sept birthdays that came up in a BY system but suddently switch to SY will not be a larger percentage of starters.
They will get an initial boost but over time they will find their way to the bench in SY just like they did in BY.
Aug to Nov. players will be the majority and take the starter position just as Jan to Apr. players are doing now. In tournaments this summer, when you see younger Nls play up, they get destroyed by older RL teams.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 19:27
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean actual studies come to a very different conclusion but because you say it, it must be true.
Yes aug/sept birthdays that come up in a SY system will be a larger percentage of starters.
No aug/sept birthdays that came up in a BY system but suddently switch to SY will not be a larger percentage of starters.
They will get an initial boost but over time they will find their way to the bench in SY just like they did in BY.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 19:20
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean actual studies come to a very different conclusion but because you say it, it must be true.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 18:36
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
And within 6 months of playing down pine riders in BY will find their way to the bench under SY.
All the parents that think playing down will be their kids magic ticket to success will find out that it wasnt RAE keeping their kid from starting.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 18:32
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Party’s over for most top team players.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
Unless you’re playing up most kids will be replaced. Maybe 7 or 8 current starters will be left per team on average.
If you’re a sub or low min player you’re out…
Jan to July people to learn what RAE is.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 18:10
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:So now that it is a foregone conclusion that we are all going to 8-1, now begins the great “shifting” of teams.
If we assume 2/3 of any given team is born between January 1 and August 1 and 1/3 August 1 and after due to RAE then we are going to see a massive shift.
So, on a roster of 18 there are going to be 6 ECNL level players moving to the team below. Now add into the mix the “youngers” that would be on the B or ECRL team that would still be good enough to make a full ECNL team below.
My gut is that, if you are an older and not in the top half of your current team, you are probably going to be moved to the RL team. And that could be 4-5 kids from each team.
Going to be a bloodbath.
Our NL team has 4 Q3/Q4, RL has 6 Q3/Q4, so 6 to 7 younger NL positions will be taken within our own club. I would expect another 4/5 Q3/Q4 from MLS1 and MLS2 around us. MLS is not as strong as ECNL in our area. So at least 50% change.
Anonymous
08/29/2025 17:18
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now that it is a foregone conclusion that we are all going to 8-1, now begins the great “shifting” of teams.
If we assume 2/3 of any given team is born between January 1 and August 1 and 1/3 August 1 and after due to RAE then we are going to see a massive shift.
So, on a roster of 18 there are going to be 6 ECNL level players moving to the team below. Now add into the mix the “youngers” that would be on the B or ECRL team that would still be good enough to make a full ECNL team below.
My gut is that, if you are an older and not in the top half of your current team, you are probably going to be moved to the RL team. And that could be 4-5 kids from each team.
Going to be a bloodbath.
Ok, can some explain to me what happens to an MLSNext team - let's say U13 (so 2013 kids). So in 26-27, this team will now be Sept. 2012 - Aug 2013? And the Aug - Dec. 2013 kids, if they stay on the team, will be considered to be playing up?
Mlsnext hasn’t announced if they will change age groupings. Could be different age cutoffs between mlsnext tiers, mls academies, and mlsnext club youth teams (although that wouldn’t apply to 2013s).
If BY, 2013s will all play u14 next year
If SY (8/1), 8/1/2012-7/31/2013 will play u14. 8/1/2013-7/31/2014 will play u13.
There is an age calculator on the us soccer website.