Anonymous wrote:You are comparing Blue Valentine (!!!) to a PG-13 movie. Please show me any pg-13 film depicting on-screen orgasms. As director, it’s Baldoni’s job to know what scenes he can show under the rating he expects, and not to shoot extraneous sex/nudity/climaxing etc that will not work with the rating, especially when involving onscreen characters that are underage.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

lol

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

It is correct, both within the case and given the 20 year career history. The only woman BL likes is herself.

Anonymous wrote:I think the idea that this was some longterm plot by Blake and Ryan, or even that they seized an opportunity to allege SH in order to take over the movie, is a sign that you've been thinking too much about this whole thing and your imagination is taking over. It does not make sense. This is every bit as fanciful and weird as a Lively supporter thinking that Baldoni cast Lively so that he could SH her. No. I sincerely believe both these people went into this situation with good intentions.

I think they had serious culture clash and it spiraled. I also think that Baldoni was tone deaf at times in a way that compounded problems that otherwise could have been addressed and moved on from. Like the whole thing with the birth scene. He shouldn't have asked her to be nude in that scene when it wasn't scripted that way, and he shouldn't have been pushy about it. But fine, they found a middle ground and it got filmed. Then the next day he's telling Heath to go show Lively Heath's wife's birth video? Dude, why? This is a sign of someone who can't bear to not win an argument and who lacks boundaries. I don't think it's SH, I just think it's super annoying. I think a lot of the stuff Blake alleges is in this category -- Baldoni doing something that is a little weird to people who don't know him, Blake reacting negatively, and then Baldoni doubling down like "no really, this is good, we *should* discuss our history with pornography more." He needed someone to rein him in and tell him to lay off and let some of this stuff go. He seems like a kind of intense guy who has very specific ideas about how people should interact (in line with his whole "male vulnerability" schtick from his podcast and books) and he needed to understand that not everyone likes that and not to force it on people.

Lively, for her part, just seems to have been in a sensitive, vulnerable place coming off the birth of her fourth child, and I think overreacted to certain things or viewed behavior that was simply tone deaf or dumb as intentional. I say this as someone who has been through PPD and knows it's hard. I actually have a lot of empathy for her.

Both people here needed to have people around them who cooled them off and encouraged them to be more understanding and to let stuff go. Instead the opposite seems to be true. I think Baldoni got spun up by Heath and the billionaire dude and also that Wayfarer might have a kind of insular culture because of the religion angle and that gave them an "us versus them" attitude. Meanwhile I think RR totally encouraged Lively to nuclear and not give an inch. And that was the problem. Then once Melissa Nathan and Bryan Freedman were involved, I think it got way worse because Nathan is extremely aggressive in her PR approach and we can all see that Freedman doesn't have a light touch.

Basically every choice either of them made after those first few weeks of filming with all the little issues, just ramped up the tensions and made things worse. This is why it's good to have people in your life who are like "yes I agree with you but do you really want to fight over this, or do you want to just get through it and move on?" Both of them needed a friend who would tell them to just suck it up, finish the movie and promotion, and then forget about the whole thing.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

I already explained it in this thread. For a long time, filmmakers shied away from having female characters orgasm/receive oral on screen compared to men, and when they did, there'd be a stigma around it. Michelle Williams' character in Blue Valentine received oral sex and the film received an NC-17 rating, leading the producers to protest and ask for an R-rating, which they were eventually able to get. Justin said the climaxing note came from the intimacy coordinator (a woman). I can easily see a female IC going, "Justin, if you want to show things from the female POV, depicting female pleasure is really important," which I'm sure is exactly what she's going to say when asked.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Doesn’t seem correct in this case given that several of her actions in this case appeared to be motivated by a desire to protect other actresses on set, such a protecting the actress playing underage Lily from performing extra sex and simulating climaxing on camera for Baldoni (despite being unscripted) during the WGA strike where such unscripted acting would not be allowed, etc. (Also commenting afterwards, “I know I’m not supposed to say this, but that was so hot!” Ew ew ew.)

Seemed like excluding those unscripted scenes filmed ostensibly during the strike were a big part of why Lively wanted to edit the film. Wtf was up with Baldoni’s obsession with filming women climaxing on camera in his pg-13 movie, anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

No one hates other women more than BL. Sad but true.

Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad how much time some people put into taking down and hating women. Hope you enjoyed another weekend filled with that. 👍

Anonymous wrote:On YouTube there is a poster who goes into great detail on how she has tried to take over roles from many well known actresses. Tried to take over the Barbie movie, displaced Kate Blanchett on a Chanel campaign, displaced Sydney Sweeney from a movie rollout, several others. CelestIQ…. is reporting these in individual summaries.