Everyone your letters worked! MCPS and the BOE asking DHHS to revise and clarify the policy

I wish someone would create a simple flow sheet based on CDC guidance and email it to the BOE

Anonymous wrote:New to the thread, but to be fair, these rates are far higher than they were over summer. I used to check my zipcode all the time and the cases were at like 20/100,000. 92.5 may be declining from last week, but it is much higher than last month.

Yes, county-wide, the case rate is now slightly higher than it was in April. The positivity rate is the same as at the end of April, and so is the percent of hospital beds occupied by covid patients.

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I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Is it?

Montgomery County covid dashboard says:

92.51 new cases per 100,000 residents (seven-day average), declining
2.7% test positivity (seven-day average), declining
-7.6% change in cases compared to previous seven-day period (i.e., declining)
71.7% of hospital in patient beds occupied
74.0% of hospital ICU beds in use
8.8% of hospital beds occupied by patients with covid

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/#dashboard

The ‘shut it down’ crowd doesn’t deal in facts. They usually don’t even read the stories they link (see ‘CDC guidance’ dingbat above). They traffic purely in ignorance and hysteria.

New to the thread, but to be fair, these rates are far higher than they were over summer. I used to check my zipcode all the time and the cases were at like 20/100,000. 92.5 may be declining from last week, but it is much higher than last month.

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I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Is it?

Montgomery County covid dashboard says:

92.51 new cases per 100,000 residents (seven-day average), declining
2.7% test positivity (seven-day average), declining
-7.6% change in cases compared to previous seven-day period (i.e., declining)
71.7% of hospital in patient beds occupied
74.0% of hospital ICU beds in use
8.8% of hospital beds occupied by patients with covid

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/#dashboard

Shhh....don't let facts get in the way of the narrative.

THE SKY IS FALLING!!

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I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Is it?

Montgomery County covid dashboard says:

92.51 new cases per 100,000 residents (seven-day average), declining
2.7% test positivity (seven-day average), declining
-7.6% change in cases compared to previous seven-day period (i.e., declining)
71.7% of hospital in patient beds occupied
74.0% of hospital ICU beds in use
8.8% of hospital beds occupied by patients with covid

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/#dashboard

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Except the 7 day average is going down....

You guys say stuff like this without any basis in fact. It's 'surging' despite it just decreased a level.

It's worse than winter! Despite the fact that are cases are about 1/3 of what they were in Jan/Feb

Hospitals are at capacity. Despite the fact that MoCo has room in the ER, and ICU, and only averaging about 18-19 people in the ICU, out of our county of 1.1 million.

Stop with the rhetoric. Turn off CNN, and read the local news. Or, at the very least, look at our local dashboard, and don't pay any attention to what's happening in FL, TX, or LA. It has no bearing on us in MoCo

Oh it does have bearing- it’s our future unless everyone cuts out their selfish actions pronto. Might already be too late. This is delta we are talking about, not the OG covid.

How? How does it have bearing?

A community which is thousands of miles away with low vax rate and no mask compliance? How does that have any bearing on our community, one with high vax rates and mask compliance?

And before you tell me "people travel". Trust me, nobody from Texas is vacationing in Montgomery County

Also, at the very least, even if you support these policies or want another lockdown, at least be honest.

Because when you say things like "its surging" or "its as bad as winter" YOU. ARE. LYING.

You're lying. So try to find a way to make a case without lying

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Except the 7 day average is going down....

You guys say stuff like this without any basis in fact. It's 'surging' despite it just decreased a level.

It's worse than winter! Despite the fact that are cases are about 1/3 of what they were in Jan/Feb

Hospitals are at capacity. Despite the fact that MoCo has room in the ER, and ICU, and only averaging about 18-19 people in the ICU, out of our county of 1.1 million.

Stop with the rhetoric. Turn off CNN, and read the local news. Or, at the very least, look at our local dashboard, and don't pay any attention to what's happening in FL, TX, or LA. It has no bearing on us in MoCo

Oh it does have bearing- it’s our future unless everyone cuts out their selfish actions pronto. Might already be too late. This is delta we are talking about, not the OG covid.

How? How does it have bearing?

A community which is thousands of miles away with low vax rate and no mask compliance? How does that have any bearing on our community, one with high vax rates and mask compliance?

And before you tell me "people travel". Trust me, nobody from Texas is vacationing in Montgomery County

Everyone claiming that Montgomery County is justified in creating a policy like no other jurisdiction and that is completely different from CDC recommendations on quarantining students because "we're not testing" is so bloody full of it. The CDC does not call for mandatory weekly testing of everyone. It specifically says adults/guardians need to consent to testing, and even suggests testing of young children may not be possible.

You may for whatever reason think this policy makes sense. But in no universe is it consistent with CDC guidelines. Montgomery County ALWAYS has to do everything by itself and ignore everyone else and it usually isn't better, and is often worse, than what other jurisdictions do. Flouting national public health authorities that recognize the importance of in-person learning may have been something that people accepted during the Trump administration but it doesn't fly now.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Except the 7 day average is going down....

You guys say stuff like this without any basis in fact. It's 'surging' despite it just decreased a level.

It's worse than winter! Despite the fact that are cases are about 1/3 of what they were in Jan/Feb

Hospitals are at capacity. Despite the fact that MoCo has room in the ER, and ICU, and only averaging about 18-19 people in the ICU, out of our county of 1.1 million.

Stop with the rhetoric. Turn off CNN, and read the local news. Or, at the very least, look at our local dashboard, and don't pay any attention to what's happening in FL, TX, or LA. It has no bearing on us in MoCo

Oh it does have bearing- it’s our future unless everyone cuts out their selfish actions pronto. Might already be too late. This is delta we are talking about, not the OG covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

No, you're just interpreting the guidance incorrectly because it seems inconvenient to you.

That's an uh...interesting take. It's probably best to just leave it alone...

It appears to be accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

Except the 7 day average is going down....

You guys say stuff like this without any basis in fact. It's 'surging' despite it just decreased a level.

It's worse than winter! Despite the fact that are cases are about 1/3 of what they were in Jan/Feb

Hospitals are at capacity. Despite the fact that MoCo has room in the ER, and ICU, and only averaging about 18-19 people in the ICU, out of our county of 1.1 million.

Stop with the rhetoric. Turn off CNN, and read the local news. Or, at the very least, look at our local dashboard, and don't pay any attention to what's happening in FL, TX, or LA. It has no bearing on us in MoCo

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

I think MCPS is being over cautious, but in the name of trying to avoid a systemwide shutdown.

Why would there be a systemwide shutdown?

It’s spreading at a lively clip.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently the new “guidance” confirms what we’ve been hearing. If a child has “symptoms” associated with COVID (could be a runny nose) their close contacts (this has been interpreted as the entire class in many schools) are quarantined for ten days.

This is completely ludicrous and not based in science or CDC guidelines.

hey can't know with 100% certainty which kids within an overcrowded classroom came into contact over the course of several hours so quarantining the entire class is the best effort to follow CDC guidelines. I'm sorry you feel that isn't convenient but they are concerned with child safety.

If the CDC wanted to recommend quarantining the entire class if one person in it has a covid symptom, then they could do so. But they specifically have NOT done so. Maybe you should write to them.

I think the CDC knows parents in red states would stop listening to them altogether if they did that. Remember being told not to bother wearing masks?

So your position is that MCPS is following the guidance that CDC has actually NOT issued but would secretly like to?

No, you're just interpreting the guidance incorrectly because it seems inconvenient to you.

That's an uh...interesting take. It's probably best to just leave it alone...