Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 18:25     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a Christian culture of purity and submissive wives and divorce and women staying in toxic marriages, and actually appreciated Jen's podcast released today with Kristen Howerton and Jamie Wright.

If you came from this same background, this one is for you.

Incidentally, Ann Voskamp is taking heat on a Facebook post she wrote Feb 12 and the comments leading to eventual edit and disclaimer are (ding ding ding!) profoundly telling of the current culture of women who came from this environment and are struggling to find help, community, and heal from their story. *Post is triggering if you are healing from or in the midst of divorce*



Couldn't pay me to listen to a podcast with both Howerton and Hatmaker.


I’m suffering through it because I’m just too damn curious! 30 minutes in and so far all 3 of them are just complaining about their ex-husbands and blaming it ALL on them. And on the church?! I don’t know if I can make it……


This. Everyone knows and who's honest admits that in the vast majority of divorces it's a too person at fault scenario. It was in mine!

Jamie, Jen, and Kristen were just three virginal, pure, super loving and giving saints who tragically married three monsters? Please.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 18:17     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a Christian culture of purity and submissive wives and divorce and women staying in toxic marriages, and actually appreciated Jen's podcast released today with Kristen Howerton and Jamie Wright.

If you came from this same background, this one is for you.

Incidentally, Ann Voskamp is taking heat on a Facebook post she wrote Feb 12 and the comments leading to eventual edit and disclaimer are (ding ding ding!) profoundly telling of the current culture of women who came from this environment and are struggling to find help, community, and heal from their story. *Post is triggering if you are healing from or in the midst of divorce*



Couldn't pay me to listen to a podcast with both Howerton and Hatmaker.


I’m suffering through it because I’m just too damn curious! 30 minutes in and so far all 3 of them are just complaining about their ex-husbands and blaming it ALL on them. And on the church?! I don’t know if I can make it……
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 17:53     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a Christian culture of purity and submissive wives and divorce and women staying in toxic marriages, and actually appreciated Jen's podcast released today with Kristen Howerton and Jamie Wright.

If you came from this same background, this one is for you.

Incidentally, Ann Voskamp is taking heat on a Facebook post she wrote Feb 12 and the comments leading to eventual edit and disclaimer are (ding ding ding!) profoundly telling of the current culture of women who came from this environment and are struggling to find help, community, and heal from their story. *Post is triggering if you are healing from or in the midst of divorce*



Couldn't pay me to listen to a podcast with both Howerton and Hatmaker.


Howerton is sort of a less cloying, less try-hard Jen. She also seems to be more grounded and real. Less fun to make fun of and therefor a lot less interesting.

Jamie Wright is way way better than the other two, though, in my opinion. A lot naturally funnier and more bitingly witty and doesn't give two shits about what others think.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 17:37     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a Christian culture of purity and submissive wives and divorce and women staying in toxic marriages, and actually appreciated Jen's podcast released today with Kristen Howerton and Jamie Wright.

If you came from this same background, this one is for you.

Incidentally, Ann Voskamp is taking heat on a Facebook post she wrote Feb 12 and the comments leading to eventual edit and disclaimer are (ding ding ding!) profoundly telling of the current culture of women who came from this environment and are struggling to find help, community, and heal from their story. *Post is triggering if you are healing from or in the midst of divorce*



Couldn't pay me to listen to a podcast with both Howerton and Hatmaker.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 17:01     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Were her last 2 books flops as a poster mentioned above? I didn't realize. I thought she was still a big deal....Just read the half time posts. WOW. Trying so hard to sound urban and relevant and hip and everying a almost 50 year old shouldn't be...I have second hand embarrassment. I was ready for pics of her and Jason Batemen though....glad there were none...
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 15:20     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Has anyone been able to do a wellness check on Jen to make sure she's fully recovered from the Superbowl halftime show?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 14:55     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
I grew up in a Christian culture of purity and submissive wives and divorce and women staying in toxic marriages, and actually appreciated Jen's podcast released today with Kristen Howerton and Jamie Wright.

If you came from this same background, this one is for you.

Incidentally, Ann Voskamp is taking heat on a Facebook post she wrote Feb 12 and the comments leading to eventual edit and disclaimer are (ding ding ding!) profoundly telling of the current culture of women who came from this environment and are struggling to find help, community, and heal from their story. *Post is triggering if you are healing from or in the midst of divorce*

Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 14:54     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
I grew up in a Christian culture of purity and submissive wives and divorce and women staying in toxic marriages, and actually appreciated Jen's podcast released today with Kristen Howerton and Jamie Wright.

If you came from this same background, this one is for you.

Incidentally, I also follow Ann Voskamp who is being drilled on a Facebook post she wrote Feb 12 and the comments, as well as Ann's eventual edit and disclaimer are (ding ding ding!) profoundly telling of the current culture of women who came from this environment and are struggling to find help, community, and heal from their story. *Post is triggering if you are healing from or in the midst of divorce*

Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 13:24     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:sure she knew who all those singers were yesterday. i knew who they were before yesterday and i am older. i don't care for them or care to see them and would certainly not gush over them though.



Yeah I think the issue is less whether she knew them and more what prompted her to fire off that 2000 word unfiltered post about them. She had already posted that she enjoyed the show. That second post was so hard to read. I didn't make it all the way through it bc the second hand embarrassment was painful.


It was embarrassing. The extra is strong with this one. Waaaayy too strong. She’s trying so hard, it makes me cringe. The desperation to remain relevant is unreal.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2022 08:14     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:sure she knew who all those singers were yesterday. i knew who they were before yesterday and i am older. i don't care for them or care to see them and would certainly not gush over them though.



Yeah I think the issue is less whether she knew them and more what prompted her to fire off that 2000 word unfiltered post about them. She had already posted that she enjoyed the show. That second post was so hard to read. I didn't make it all the way through it bc the second hand embarrassment was painful.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 23:00     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
sure she knew who all those singers were yesterday. i knew who they were before yesterday and i am older. i don't care for them or care to see them and would certainly not gush over them though.

Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 22:56     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I honestly felt so embarrassed about the halftime show posts. Like, there is no way she knew who those singers were before yesterday. Lol that’s just the way I feel it reads. Whatever can draw her a crowd, that’s where she’ll be. Oh well.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 22:34     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
What’s Jen’s career now?

She’s got the podcast it I don’t think it’s drawing big numbers anymore, her monthly book club, and the constant promo code shilling game. And the Legacy Collective thing, where she supposedly doesn’t “get a dime”.

She’s got a cook book coming out later this year so she probably got a nice advance on that.

But her last two books were flops so I’d imagine her publisher is probably a bit spooked about okay’ing new titles. And she’s not doing conferences anymore. But really none of the PreCovid Influencer crowd is anymore, like Rachel Hollis.

So is the waning podcast, the book club, and a cookbook brought to support her lifestyle heavy on travel and Broadway tickets?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 22:30     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Those Superbowl halftime posts came off a little manic to me. I hope her mental health continues to heal.


Yes manic and desperate. She thinks she is so clever and yet she just comes off as thirsty. For Eminem? Really?

It's like she is having one very-delayed prolonged teenage rebellious period. Super obnoxious and made worse by the fact that she's pushing 50.


Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 22:20     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was fairly good friends with JH for several years.
Can’t promise I’ll answer, but feel free to AMA.


Tell us what you know about the divorce and the events leading up to it.


This!


I do not know the exact reasons. Their inner circle is very, very tight. The sheltons, the Pruitt’s, a few others. It should be noted that Tray and Brandon used to be BFFs and it appears they no longer speak.

Jen - who was a Jennifer to everyone pre-fame - didn’t really mingle with those outside the inner circle. Even before she was “famous”. She was known for being pretty unreliable. Like if one of us had a baby & she signed up to bring a meal, probably be ready to order pizza. She just wasn’t a very good friend, tbh. She was barely involved in church - that was all Brandon’s gig. She showed up on Sunday, not much else. Definitely not the normal preachers wife. That was handled by another couple of church members, one in particular, and when that lady moved away, all the organizing & fellowship etc ended. There was the inner circle but Jen treated even her dear old friends like she was too busy to be bothered most of the time. You know that friend where you do most of yhe “work”, then you realize it’s pretty one sided, you start to see that they only seem to call you if they need something … that’s Jen. Once she began adding “famous” people to her friend list, that only deepened. You can’t return your friend’s call but you can go on a girls weekend with bloggers you’ve seen in the flesh like twice? Oh, okay. Lots of hurt feelings. Lots.



This is no surprise.- I do know a woman who felt very taken advantage of and hurt because Jenn literally pawned Remy off on her quite often. The woman had a daughter who was Remy’s age and they became fast friends at church. Remy was all of a sudden spending the night all the time with this girl. The mom felt however that it quickly became a baby sitting service and the friendship was never reciprocated. It was very one sided. Kinda like-, “Hey we have better things to do like hang out with our real friends whose kids are all much older. Can Remy stay the night with y’all?” “Can Remy come over to play for the afternoon, so I can do some stuff?” I mean once in a while is fine, but it never seemed that Jen invited the other girl over. And this woman played a big role in the church at one point. I know she felt very used after some time.


That was always my interaction at ANC. I could do things for you, but never be around you. I remember when she wrote Moxie all of the ANC women worked to throw together a big launch party at her house. After volunteering all day I remember asking to use the restroom and being told not to go in Jen’s house. I drove to the gas station to pee. Later the usual ANC clique was laughing it up inside with Rachel Hollis. We left to go to Gateway soon after.