Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.
And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.
I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...
1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.
2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.
Never having read any of your books I am pretty sure they are bad because I don’t like you.
If we spent 70 pages trashing your books, not having read any of them based on nothing more than how you post on DCUM that would be the equivalent.
I’m merely commenting on what I see in this thread. I’m not making assumptions about people that would fall apart if someone used Google to find the volumes I’ve written on soccer.
I think my points are made, so I’ll let others have their thread back.
Best wishes to Barca and at least 99 percent of their parents.
Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.
And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.
I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...
1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.
2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.
Never having read any of your books I am pretty sure they are bad because I don’t like you.
If we spent 70 pages trashing your books, not having read any of them based on nothing more than how you post on DCUM that would be the equivalent.
Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.
And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.
I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...
1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.
2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.
Sure you're not.
RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?
I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."
Nothing critical in that at all.
You literally turned "two" into "tons." How Trumpian of you.
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.
And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.
I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...
1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.
2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.
RantingSoccerDad wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?
I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:See this is exactly the thing right here, people attacked a club they have never seen. Then, when people at the club defended their experience at the club they were then told there was no way they possibly could be happy based on the cost and the tourney results. The Barca folks again tried to frame their position in other ways why they were happy. Then critics simply called them zealots and propagandist.
And here you are, a reporter saying nothing more than, “no, I just don’t like you.” Which is the gist of what all the critics have simply been saying. And that is still just a deflection and has nothing to do with the original basic question of the club. So now that you have admitted what your issue is, it is time for others to simply do the same and just move on from the thread because you or many of the other “critics” are not legitimately interested in the actual club.
I'm not sure I can make this any clearer ...
1. I am not criticizing Barca. I'm in no position to do so. I think they may have placed some of their teams in leagues for which they weren't prepared, but that happens. It's not a big deal.
2. I AM criticizing people who react to even the slightest question as if we're all spitting on Cruyff's grave.
Anonymous wrote:RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:RSD, as a reporter/investigator how did you interpret 2 VDA players as "tons". They have lured, they are just there and people have joined for a variety of reasons. Mostly because they want a working curriculum. We all know that traditional clubs are really coached based and you get some good and you have the others.
I don't trash people for buying car brands because I prefer a different make, this is no different. Let the BARCA families enjoy their experience instead of constantly defending their decision.
I was giving a tongue-in-cheek interpretation of what I'd seen in the pages that had been filled up since I last visited.
Whatever. You wrote:
"Haven't checked in for a while -- is the basic gist of the last several pages that Barca has lured tons of players away from VDA and other programs because the training is better? And yet those players go to Barca and don't get great results? So Barca lured all these great players away for better training -- and they don't win much, even after a year or two with Barca?
I know -- you can't judge solely by results. But if you're claiming to attract players who've won elsewhere, and now they're losing, it's awfully difficult to call that progress."
There's nothing tongue in cheek about that. You just twisted "the gist" of previous posts to fit your agenda of bashing this club. Same agenda you always have when you comment in this thread. This time it was just more obvious than usual, which is why you got called out on it.
It seems that what really bothers you is that the Barca Academy claims to offer something new and different, and you don't like new and different, which is why you always seem to wind up defending the status quo.
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Anonymous wrote:RSD, as a reporter/investigator how did you interpret 2 VDA players as "tons". They have lured, they are just there and people have joined for a variety of reasons. Mostly because they want a working curriculum. We all know that traditional clubs are really coached based and you get some good and you have the others.
I don't trash people for buying car brands because I prefer a different make, this is no different. Let the BARCA families enjoy their experience instead of constantly defending their decision.
I was giving a tongue-in-cheek interpretation of what I'd seen in the pages that had been filled up since I last visited.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can shit on Barca but this thread proves that they are a significant player in the DMV. 1k comments and 43k views.
Congratulations! By your measure, Barca is almost as relevant as VYS with 93 pages of comments.
The difference was the VYS thread was nearly all internal ranting about everything wrong with the club. The Barca thread is pretty much people who have never set foot on Evergreen complaining about a club that has no affect on them in any way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can shit on Barca but this thread proves that they are a significant player in the DMV. 1k comments and 43k views.
Congratulations! By your measure, Barca is almost as relevant as VYS with 93 pages of comments.
The difference was the VYS thread was nearly all internal ranting about everything wrong with the club. The Barca thread is pretty much people who have never set foot on Evergreen complaining about a club that has no affect on them in any way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can shit on Barca but this thread proves that they are a significant player in the DMV. 1k comments and 43k views.
Congratulations! By your measure, Barca is almost as relevant as VYS with 93 pages of comments.
Anonymous wrote:You can shit on Barca but this thread proves that they are a significant player in the DMV. 1k comments and 43k views.