Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:57     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the parents should pay for their own lawyer. But if they aren't inclined to supervise their kids, are you surprised they are expecting the community to pay their legal fees? I'm not surprised.


Pro Bono means the firm is covering the expenses, not the community. No need to shed a tear for a large law firm helping of their own free will. I'm guessing PPP is 2 mil a year.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:56     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I think CPS is currently pursuing an investigation since the idiot parents flagrantly disregarded the parenting plan they recently signed the last time CPS investigated them. Duh.


What does the parenting plan say, exactly? Do you know?


Actually, let's back up. DID the parents sign a parenting plan? There's no mention of it here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/decision-in-free-range-case-does-not-end-debate-about-parenting-and-safety/2015/03/02/5a919454-c04d-11e4-ad5c-3b8ce89f1b89_story.html
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:53     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Well, I think CPS is currently pursuing an investigation since the idiot parents flagrantly disregarded the parenting plan they recently signed the last time CPS investigated them. Duh.


What does the parenting plan say, exactly? Do you know?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:45     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Well, I think CPS is currently pursuing an investigation since the idiot parents flagrantly disregarded the parenting plan they recently signed the last time CPS investigated them. Duh.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:42     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing, people: something else is up with this family. The cops and CPS could have very easily determined that the first incident was a mistake...that the yuppies from SS were clearly loving and responsible parents and their kids were clearly bright, mature and capable of going to the park alone. But that's not how it played out. Something prompted CPS to investigate and pursue this full throttle. And these parents didn't heed the warning and instead put their kids through an ordeal by dropping them off at a park.


Which is it? Is CPS pursuing them because it's child neglect to let your children walk to the park? Or is it perfectly ok to let your children walk to the park, but CPS is pursuing them for a different, unknown reason?

Also, you have a lot more faith in bureaucracy than I do, and I'm a bureaucrat.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:39     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
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I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.


Do you think that letting your children walk home from the park is analogous to speeding? I don't.


Speeding is far more dangerous.


Not if you are a good driver. Just like these super mature kids.


If speeding isn't dangerous if you're a good driver, then walking home from the park isn't dangerous unless the police pick you up.


Or you get hit by a car or molested or something.


Or an asteroid falls on you, or a sinkhole opens under you, or the Tardis miscalculates and lands on you.

Let's deal with reality here, not all of the things that could possibly happen.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:39     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Here's the thing, people: something else is up with this family. The cops and CPS could have very easily determined that the first incident was a mistake...that the yuppies from SS were clearly loving and responsible parents and their kids were clearly bright, mature and capable of going to the park alone. But that's not how it played out. Something prompted CPS to investigate and pursue this full throttle. And these parents didn't heed the warning and instead put their kids through an ordeal by dropping them off at a park.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:38     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
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Speeding : ticket : : child neglect : signing a parenting plan with CPS


Sure. But CPS did not find that they committed child neglect.


They also didn't find they didn't commit child neglect. Yet, they did sign a parenting plan, just like I pay the ticket even though I thought I was driving safely and the speed limit is too low.


CPS didn't find that the parents didn't commit child neglect -- how Orwellian.

How do you know they signed a parenting plan, by the way? Perhaps you can also share with us what the parenting plan said?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:33     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Speeding : ticket : : child neglect : signing a parenting plan with CPS


Sure. But CPS did not find that they committed child neglect.


They also didn't find they didn't commit child neglect. Yet, they did sign a parenting plan, just like I pay the ticket even though I thought I was driving safely and the speed limit is too low.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:31     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:

I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.


Do you think that letting your children walk home from the park is analogous to speeding? I don't.


Speeding is far more dangerous.


Not if you are a good driver. Just like these super mature kids.


If speeding isn't dangerous if you're a good driver, then walking home from the park isn't dangerous unless the police pick you up.


Or you get hit by a car or molested or something.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:30     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.


Do you think that letting your children walk home from the park is analogous to speeding? I don't.


Who cares what you *think*? Maryland has laws setting ages for drinking, smoking, driving, etc. AND for walking home alone from the park...and the cops and freaking CPS have already personally told this specific family about the pertinent law and told them that letting their kids walk to the park alone isn't ok. What more do you people need to hear about this??? The law is what it is. Work to change it if it bothers you, but don't drop your kids off in DTSS alone unless you want to deal with CPS. Period.


Please provide a link to Maryland's law setting an age for walking home alone from the park, comparable to Maryland's law setting an age for alcohol consumption, tobacco smoking, driving, etc.

And no, it hasn't been posted before, because there isn't one.


Are you daft? No it doesn't specify walking home from the park. In a year from now it probably will. For now it's generAl. And if these people didn't know it applied to walking home before, they did after the first incident.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:29     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.


Do you think that letting your children walk home from the park is analogous to speeding? I don't.


Speeding is far more dangerous.


Not if you are a good driver. Just like these super mature kids.


If speeding isn't dangerous if you're a good driver, then walking home from the park isn't dangerous unless the police pick you up.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:27     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:

Speeding : ticket : : child neglect : signing a parenting plan with CPS


Sure. But CPS did not find that they committed child neglect.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:26     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.


Do you think that letting your children walk home from the park is analogous to speeding? I don't.


Who cares what you *think*? Maryland has laws setting ages for drinking, smoking, driving, etc. AND for walking home alone from the park...and the cops and freaking CPS have already personally told this specific family about the pertinent law and told them that letting their kids walk to the park alone isn't ok. What more do you people need to hear about this??? The law is what it is. Work to change it if it bothers you, but don't drop your kids off in DTSS alone unless you want to deal with CPS. Period.


Please provide a link to Maryland's law setting an age for walking home alone from the park, comparable to Maryland's law setting an age for alcohol consumption, tobacco smoking, driving, etc.

And no, it hasn't been posted before, because there isn't one.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2015 19:24     Subject: Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.


Do you think that letting your children walk home from the park is analogous to speeding? I don't.


Yes

Speeding : ticket : : child neglect : signing a parenting plan with CPS