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Anonymous wrote:Watta troll! We've gone from a discussion of IB/residents and IB/feeder to IB/own vs. rent!! This is some triflin' stuff. At least it keeps the limbo game going. Keep the thread alive!

But uniforms. That gets to the heart of it -- who's with me?!

I don't know what the uniforms look like at Hardy, but my oldest really liked her uniform at Washington Latin. She is now at Basis, and we feel the financial hit and the hassle of having to buy clothes that probably the younger girls will not wear (tweens can get really picky)....

I am hoping to feel quite confident about Hardy by the time my next girl is ready to go in a couple of years, and uniforms would be such a blessing to me as a parent for this child I really don't care she thinks. Since the alternative would be to go to Basis I don't think I will have a problem. I had a uniform at NCS which for 4th - 6th was awful - it was a striped pastel dress that had pleats at the bottom that allowed any boy who got near enough to do a "bloomer check." These uniforms allow the girls to wear pants, so I am not sure what the problem is. Once going to Hardy does not seem like a stigma, the uniforms won't either. Uniforms to me definitely don't mean anything except that a child goes to a particular school - we see Catholic kids in uniforms at after school church activities all the time.......

I'm sure it seems silly to some, but the uniforms are an issue that keeps IB families away from the school. Uniforms at Hardy vs. No Uniforms at Deal just reinforces that these schools are different and not necessarily in a favorable way for Hardy. Those who CHOOSE uniforms at private or charters are making an affirmative choice to do so. Why should some public schools wear uniforms and others not? If the Chancellor decided that all DCPS kids would wear uniforms, then I would not have a problem with it, but why should my child be told to wear a uniform at Hardy while her friends at Deal don't have to. If the Hardy community wants to get more IB students -- and I'm not sure they do -- the principal should reconsider the uniform policy.

What's silly is that this was already discussed ad nauseum about 40 pages back. You may have even been one of the posters, but forgot you even engaged in this r-e-a-l-l-y tired thread.

I think the honest goal of the boundary realignment is not to get IB kids from Eaton to go to Hardy, but to get the OOB kids, educated at Eaton, to go to Hardy. Maybe some IB kids will go, but I suspect more than usual will leave for private school. If the OOB Eaton kids go to Hardy, it frees up about 20 spots at Deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Watta troll! We've gone from a discussion of IB/residents and IB/feeder to IB/own vs. rent!! This is some triflin' stuff. At least it keeps the limbo game going. Keep the thread alive!

But uniforms. That gets to the heart of it -- who's with me?!

I don't know what the uniforms look like at Hardy, but my oldest really liked her uniform at Washington Latin. She is now at Basis, and we feel the financial hit and the hassle of having to buy clothes that probably the younger girls will not wear (tweens can get really picky)....

I am hoping to feel quite confident about Hardy by the time my next girl is ready to go in a couple of years, and uniforms would be such a blessing to me as a parent for this child I really don't care she thinks. Since the alternative would be to go to Basis I don't think I will have a problem. I had a uniform at NCS which for 4th - 6th was awful - it was a striped pastel dress that had pleats at the bottom that allowed any boy who got near enough to do a "bloomer check." These uniforms allow the girls to wear pants, so I am not sure what the problem is. Once going to Hardy does not seem like a stigma, the uniforms won't either. Uniforms to me definitely don't mean anything except that a child goes to a particular school - we see Catholic kids in uniforms at after school church activities all the time.......

I'm sure it seems silly to some, but the uniforms are an issue that keeps IB families away from the school. Uniforms at Hardy vs. No Uniforms at Deal just reinforces that these schools are different and not necessarily in a favorable way for Hardy. Those who CHOOSE uniforms at private or charters are making an affirmative choice to do so. Why should some public schools wear uniforms and others not? If the Chancellor decided that all DCPS kids would wear uniforms, then I would not have a problem with it, but why should my child be told to wear a uniform at Hardy while her friends at Deal don't have to. If the Hardy community wants to get more IB students -- and I'm not sure they do -- the principal should reconsider the uniform policy.

Anonymous wrote:Watta troll! We've gone from a discussion of IB/residents and IB/feeder to IB/own vs. rent!! This is some triflin' stuff. At least it keeps the limbo game going. Keep the thread alive!

But uniforms. That gets to the heart of it -- who's with me?!

I don't know what the uniforms look like at Hardy, but my oldest really liked her uniform at Washington Latin. She is now at Basis, and we feel the financial hit and the hassle of having to buy clothes that probably the younger girls will not wear (tweens can get really picky)....

I am hoping to feel quite confident about Hardy by the time my next girl is ready to go in a couple of years, and uniforms would be such a blessing to me as a parent for this child I really don't care she thinks. Since the alternative would be to go to Basis I don't think I will have a problem. I had a uniform at NCS which for 4th - 6th was awful - it was a striped pastel dress that had pleats at the bottom that allowed any boy who got near enough to do a "bloomer check." These uniforms allow the girls to wear pants, so I am not sure what the problem is. Once going to Hardy does not seem like a stigma, the uniforms won't either. Uniforms to me definitely don't mean anything except that a child goes to a particular school - we see Catholic kids in uniforms at after school church activities all the time.......

Watta troll! We've gone from a discussion of IB/residents and IB/feeder to IB/own vs. rent!! This is some triflin' stuff. At least it keeps the limbo game going. Keep the thread alive!

But uniforms. That gets to the heart of it -- who's with me?!

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.
I have always thought that the vivid animosity against Hardy in this thread can only come from people with some stakes in either the private school sector or charters.
If you are an IB family, i.e. you own a real estate property in the area, you would see Hardy's recent dynamic with a favorable and supporting eye. Unless the undergoing efforts and positive results are harming your vested interests.

Exactly. But one need only look at the number of pages (67 and counting) and views (almost 20k) to see that people are really watching this closely. At Key, there are so many families for whom private would be really, really taxing . . . but there is also such peer pressure against Hardy.

We are one of those families, and would love for Hardy to become as alluring an option as Key itself. Do you foresee the peer pressure shifting as Hardy does?

The Hyde & Stoddert families will lead the charge. The Key mommies are more stuck generally speaking.

Because .... Lots of transient renters compared to key.

Sounds like you haven't been to Glover Park or Georgetown in a few decades.

You'd be wrong about that. Those giant apartment buildings that line Wisconsin Ave? Yeah.

Yes, just like the ones that line Connecticut (with students attending Eaton, Heart, Murch, Janney) and Mass (Mann, Janney). In addition, as you might have noticed if you had any familiarity with the area, Georgetown and Glover Park have many, many blocks of houses running from $700K (low end for GP) to many millions (mostly in Georgetown, but GP, for better or worse, now has houses on some blocks that go for 1mill+). Basically the same mix as other NW schools, but with the welcome addition at Stoddert of kids from Bolling Air Force base and several embassies.

Janney has no large rental buildings inbounds. Mann has two, and they're full of AU kids and retirees. Key has a couple garden style buildings inbounds.

Georgetown kids from multimillion homes sure as hell do not use dcps.

A significant majority (60%) of Hyde kids come from elsewhere in the city, anyway, and not from georgetown.

I'm not sure why you're vainly fighting the fact, easily demonstrated by census data from the acs survey, that more residents rent in the Stoddert catchment area than in the Key boundaries.

Um.....so you think that the number of views on an anonymous forum means IB families will now follow others to Hardy?

Do you know Word Salad? If not you two should totally meet.

Just on the uniform issue, my kid at Washington Latin loved it and so do we...........
So it does not necessarily mean a KIPP type of school

On the Key issue, I wish we could get more Key students to Basis......... for the sake of Basis

Although there was a large crop from Mann the first year, that was the exception to the rule and they all appear to be going private again...... and some indeed went to Hardy

In terms of Hardy, Basis has no 6th grade honors English, nor does Latin, so if you think Wilson will be ok, I am not sure that these charters are the best choice because they do absolutely no tracking or honors classes whatsoever (unless you have a STEM kid, and then it is Basis hands down because they track aggressively in math starting in 5th, but that is ALL they track in). English be damned. No joke.

I have high hopes for Hardy, and am convinced that the shift will happen in time for my youngest child to go....

The enormous number of "looks" at this thread ought to tell Hardy, Ms. Pride, and all those IB/OOB IB kids who are paving the way, that we will follow you........... And in my experience, at least with the child I am planning to send after you, the uniforms will be such a blessing you cannot possibly imagine. Yes, I have a girl....

I have read this ENTIRE thread, because I have a vested interest, and I am sold until I hear something different

Anonymous wrote:MacArthur Boulevard is lined with decidedly modest apartment buildings, all in-boundary for Key.

Most of the renters move when their oldest kid gets to middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.
I have always thought that the vivid animosity against Hardy in this thread can only come from people with some stakes in either the private school sector or charters.
If you are an IB family, i.e. you own a real estate property in the area, you would see Hardy's recent dynamic with a favorable and supporting eye. Unless the undergoing efforts and positive results are harming your vested interests.

Exactly. But one need only look at the number of pages (67 and counting) and views (almost 20k) to see that people are really watching this closely. At Key, there are so many families for whom private would be really, really taxing . . . but there is also such peer pressure against Hardy.

We are one of those families, and would love for Hardy to become as alluring an option as Key itself. Do you foresee the peer pressure shifting as Hardy does?

The Hyde & Stoddert families will lead the charge. The Key mommies are more stuck generally speaking.

Because .... Lots of transient renters compared to key.

Sounds like you haven't been to Glover Park or Georgetown in a few decades.

You'd be wrong about that. Those giant apartment buildings that line Wisconsin Ave? Yeah.

Yes, just like the ones that line Connecticut (with students attending Eaton, Heart, Murch, Janney) and Mass (Mann, Janney). In addition, as you might have noticed if you had any familiarity with the area, Georgetown and Glover Park have many, many blocks of houses running from $700K (low end for GP) to many millions (mostly in Georgetown, but GP, for better or worse, now has houses on some blocks that go for 1mill+). Basically the same mix as other NW schools, but with the welcome addition at Stoddert of kids from Bolling Air Force base and several embassies.

Actually Janney is unique in having a tiny stock of apts and condos as a pctage of the IB housing stock. The others, yes.

MacArthur Boulevard is lined with decidedly modest apartment buildings, all in-boundary for Key.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.
I have always thought that the vivid animosity against Hardy in this thread can only come from people with some stakes in either the private school sector or charters.
If you are an IB family, i.e. you own a real estate property in the area, you would see Hardy's recent dynamic with a favorable and supporting eye. Unless the undergoing efforts and positive results are harming your vested interests.

Exactly. But one need only look at the number of pages (67 and counting) and views (almost 20k) to see that people are really watching this closely. At Key, there are so many families for whom private would be really, really taxing . . . but there is also such peer pressure against Hardy.

We are one of those families, and would love for Hardy to become as alluring an option as Key itself. Do you foresee the peer pressure shifting as Hardy does?

The Hyde & Stoddert families will lead the charge. The Key mommies are more stuck generally speaking.

Because .... Lots of transient renters compared to key.

Sounds like you haven't been to Glover Park or Georgetown in a few decades.

You'd be wrong about that. Those giant apartment buildings that line Wisconsin Ave? Yeah.

Yes, just like the ones that line Connecticut (with students attending Eaton, Heart, Murch, Janney) and Mass (Mann, Janney). In addition, as you might have noticed if you had any familiarity with the area, Georgetown and Glover Park have many, many blocks of houses running from $700K (low end for GP) to many millions (mostly in Georgetown, but GP, for better or worse, now has houses on some blocks that go for 1mill+). Basically the same mix as other NW schools, but with the welcome addition at Stoddert of kids from Bolling Air Force base and several embassies.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.
I have always thought that the vivid animosity against Hardy in this thread can only come from people with some stakes in either the private school sector or charters.
If you are an IB family, i.e. you own a real estate property in the area, you would see Hardy's recent dynamic with a favorable and supporting eye. Unless the undergoing efforts and positive results are harming your vested interests.

Exactly. But one need only look at the number of pages (67 and counting) and views (almost 20k) to see that people are really watching this closely. At Key, there are so many families for whom private would be really, really taxing . . . but there is also such peer pressure against Hardy.

We are one of those families, and would love for Hardy to become as alluring an option as Key itself. Do you foresee the peer pressure shifting as Hardy does?

The Hyde & Stoddert families will lead the charge. The Key mommies are more stuck generally speaking.

Because .... Lots of transient renters compared to key.

Sounds like you haven't been to Glover Park or Georgetown in a few decades.

You'd be wrong about that. Those giant apartment buildings that line Wisconsin Ave? Yeah.

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This again?

Why would we need another WOTP middle school when one of the schools that we already have has over 80% of their seats available for oob kids?

I am of course being sarcastic because I know the answer is "because Palisades families want their OWN middle school".

Truth. They failed before and they're even more ridiculous sounding now.

Because many IB families consider Hardy to be a subpar middle school and want a superior option,
that's why.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.
I have always thought that the vivid animosity against Hardy in this thread can only come from people with some stakes in either the private school sector or charters.
If you are an IB family, i.e. you own a real estate property in the area, you would see Hardy's recent dynamic with a favorable and supporting eye. Unless the undergoing efforts and positive results are harming your vested interests.

Exactly. But one need only look at the number of pages (67 and counting) and views (almost 20k) to see that people are really watching this closely. At Key, there are so many families for whom private would be really, really taxing . . . but there is also such peer pressure against Hardy.

We are one of those families, and would love for Hardy to become as alluring an option as Key itself. Do you foresee the peer pressure shifting as Hardy does?

The Hyde & Stoddert families will lead the charge. The Key mommies are more stuck generally speaking.

Because .... Lots of transient renters compared to key.

Sounds like you haven't been to Glover Park or Georgetown in a few decades.