I don't think US News' rankings should matter at all, but Northeastern at least didn't cheat like Emory and Columbia. To me, that institutional behavior is inexcusable. It is one thing to focus on a metric, but quite another to just cheat.

I don't think many schools even care about US News' rankings nowadays. There is just way too much information available to parents and students than some "magazine". Majors, salary/incomes, selectivity, SAT scores, grad school outcomes are all information available to the consumer.

I have a friend whose daughter attends SMU's B school. She loves it and has great internships. SMU suddenly became a crappy school because of US News? Same for Tulane. I don't think so. It is a predominantly wealthy school that in the name of equity US News suddenly hates.

Likewise, UC Merced gamed the reputation ranking which comprises 20% of US News' ranking formula. All the other UC's and Cal States gave UC Merced a huge peer assessment. Everyone knows UC Merced is not a top 60 school, it can barely get the bottom of barrel students rejected from all the mainstream UC's. But the peer assessment combined with equity factors like first generation enrollment suddenly makes it better than much more established universities? No one is buying that.

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread still going sheesh. Let's just agree that NEU is a top 20 school because it has a 4% acceptance rate with high stats kids. Where it falls in the top 20 will always be up for debate. There, done.

Lol! Not top 20!

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread still going sheesh. Let's just agree that NEU is a top 20 school because it has a 4% acceptance rate with high stats kids. Where it falls in the top 20 will always be up for debate. There, done.

Top 20?

No.

Top 50?

Probably.

Out of 4,000 colleges, not bad at all.

NEU is following the rubric (same as our HS kids do). US News and World Reports grades based on X, so NEU focuses on X

And the school has improved tremendously in the past 20-30 years. Those whining about NEU gaming the system and that NEU will never be a top school are living in the past, not the present

NEU is not a top 50 school. They gamed the system extensively to go up in rankings. This is pretty well documented, a couple of admissions books go over this in detail of how they did it.

It is a fine school but exhibit #1 why rankings are not an accurate way to assess a university. They are roughly right most of the time.

Nevermind the trolls.

However the data and the facts show NU is actually on par with so called T20 schools in major metrics and performance.

That's all.

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread still going sheesh. Let's just agree that NEU is a top 20 school because it has a 4% acceptance rate with high stats kids. Where it falls in the top 20 will always be up for debate. There, done.

The same NEU sock puppet booster just can't let it go. NEU is a good school but it will never come close to the top 20 schools for a variety of reasons. That is not up for debate. There, done.

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread still going sheesh. Let's just agree that NEU is a top 20 school because it has a 4% acceptance rate with high stats kids. Where it falls in the top 20 will always be up for debate. There, done.

Not top 20. Not close either. You are dreaming.

Why is this thread still going sheesh. Let's just agree that NEU is a top 20 school because it has a 4% acceptance rate with high stats kids. Where it falls in the top 20 will always be up for debate. There, done.

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Anonymous wrote:NEU may not be Harvard and Yale, but there are only a few top colleges. I doubt very much someone who goes to Northeastern, BU, BC, NYU, Emory, WashU are all that different from one another, or in outcomes.

And yes, selectivity definitely helps perception.

This isn't like comparing Seton Hall to Georgetown.

I wouldn't call this selectivity. I would call it bloated applications due to lack of essay requirements. Everyone knows this, but NEU supporters conveniently forget this.

Adding a dumb essay asking 'why our school' doesn't have much effect.

Selectivity is function applicant quality + acceptance rate + yield rate.
NEU's applicant quality is very high and it has very low acceptance rate.
It's yield rate is not as good as those hyper selective schools
So overall it's super selective but not at the level of those T20 or so schools with hyper selectivity.

Come on now. "Selective" schools have more than one additional essay. Some have up to five. Having 3 or more additional essay requirements will weed out all of the people simply checking the box on the common app, which is why NEU has so many applications. If they required even one additional essay, I guarantee the applications would drop significantly. And your low yield rate only supports this theory.

Again, Case Western is a solid well respected good school that is ranked same as NEU.
It also doesn't have additional essay. Why NEU gets shit ton more apps??

The whole purpose of additioanl essay is to pick the right kids

If you moved NEU to Cleveland and CWRU to Boston, you would see a corresponding shift in the relative number of applicants.

Oh, so you are correcting yourself. It's not the essay. Got it.

Now it's the location?
There are a bunch of colleges in Boston but not many get that kind of applications unlike NEU.
Why?

My kid’s graduating class is over 600…not one student applied to NEU…non drank the Kool-Aid. My very high stats kid had no interest in the school. I agree with the pp, include mandatory's supplemental essays and the number of applications go south. Make SAT/ACT mandatory applications tank. I agree that Boston appeals to students; however, I’m from up north and the winters are long, gloomy, and brutally cold. Colleges play gimmicks to increase applications…NEU is not the only one. Do you think Tulane would receive so many applications if it charged?

Which high school? I guarantee you will not name it!

*none instead of non. Well, you are right about one thing at least. My kid wouldn’t appreciate the doxxing.

lol..sure on the doxxing. You have 600 students in the senior class, assuming roughly 2500 students attend your imaginary high school. Not one applied to NEU. And you won't name the school. Sounds believable, my Nigerian prince who will help with my computer's infection after installing no-cost solar.

Not quite 2500. And not one. NEU is simply not on the radar. Believe what you want to believe.

Either 100% of the seniors are dumb and/or the college counseling department sucks.

Or the PP's story isn't true.

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Anonymous wrote:NEU may not be Harvard and Yale, but there are only a few top colleges. I doubt very much someone who goes to Northeastern, BU, BC, NYU, Emory, WashU are all that different from one another, or in outcomes.

And yes, selectivity definitely helps perception.

This isn't like comparing Seton Hall to Georgetown.

I wouldn't call this selectivity. I would call it bloated applications due to lack of essay requirements. Everyone knows this, but NEU supporters conveniently forget this.

Adding a dumb essay asking 'why our school' doesn't have much effect.

Selectivity is function applicant quality + acceptance rate + yield rate.
NEU's applicant quality is very high and it has very low acceptance rate.
It's yield rate is not as good as those hyper selective schools
So overall it's super selective but not at the level of those T20 or so schools with hyper selectivity.

Come on now. "Selective" schools have more than one additional essay. Some have up to five. Having 3 or more additional essay requirements will weed out all of the people simply checking the box on the common app, which is why NEU has so many applications. If they required even one additional essay, I guarantee the applications would drop significantly. And your low yield rate only supports this theory.

Again, Case Western is a solid well respected good school that is ranked same as NEU.
It also doesn't have additional essay. Why NEU gets shit ton more apps??

The whole purpose of additioanl essay is to pick the right kids

If you moved NEU to Cleveland and CWRU to Boston, you would see a corresponding shift in the relative number of applicants.

Oh, so you are correcting yourself. It's not the essay. Got it.

Now it's the location?
There are a bunch of colleges in Boston but not many get that kind of applications unlike NEU.
Why?

My kid’s graduating class is over 600…not one student applied to NEU…non drank the Kool-Aid. My very high stats kid had no interest in the school. I agree with the pp, include mandatory's supplemental essays and the number of applications go south. Make SAT/ACT mandatory applications tank. I agree that Boston appeals to students; however, I’m from up north and the winters are long, gloomy, and brutally cold. Colleges play gimmicks to increase applications…NEU is not the only one. Do you think Tulane would receive so many applications if it charged?

How would you possibly know which schools 600 student applied to? Don’t tell me they publish that information because they don’t. And what does it matter that your “high stats” kid isn’t interested in NEU? A lot kids aren’t.

Boston hasn’t been brutally cold in ten years. Hopefully kids are choosing the best school for what they want to do. They can move when they graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:NEU may not be Harvard and Yale, but there are only a few top colleges. I doubt very much someone who goes to Northeastern, BU, BC, NYU, Emory, WashU are all that different from one another, or in outcomes.

And yes, selectivity definitely helps perception.

This isn't like comparing Seton Hall to Georgetown.

I wouldn't call this selectivity. I would call it bloated applications due to lack of essay requirements. Everyone knows this, but NEU supporters conveniently forget this.

Adding a dumb essay asking 'why our school' doesn't have much effect.

Selectivity is function applicant quality + acceptance rate + yield rate.
NEU's applicant quality is very high and it has very low acceptance rate.
It's yield rate is not as good as those hyper selective schools
So overall it's super selective but not at the level of those T20 or so schools with hyper selectivity.

Come on now. "Selective" schools have more than one additional essay. Some have up to five. Having 3 or more additional essay requirements will weed out all of the people simply checking the box on the common app, which is why NEU has so many applications. If they required even one additional essay, I guarantee the applications would drop significantly. And your low yield rate only supports this theory.

Again, Case Western is a solid well respected good school that is ranked same as NEU.
It also doesn't have additional essay. Why NEU gets shit ton more apps??

The whole purpose of additioanl essay is to pick the right kids

If you moved NEU to Cleveland and CWRU to Boston, you would see a corresponding shift in the relative number of applicants.

Oh, so you are correcting yourself. It's not the essay. Got it.

Now it's the location?
There are a bunch of colleges in Boston but not many get that kind of applications unlike NEU.
Why?

My kid’s graduating class is over 600…not one student applied to NEU…non drank the Kool-Aid. My very high stats kid had no interest in the school. I agree with the pp, include mandatory's supplemental essays and the number of applications go south. Make SAT/ACT mandatory applications tank. I agree that Boston appeals to students; however, I’m from up north and the winters are long, gloomy, and brutally cold. Colleges play gimmicks to increase applications…NEU is not the only one. Do you think Tulane would receive so many applications if it charged?

Which high school? I guarantee you will not name it!

*none instead of non. Well, you are right about one thing at least. My kid wouldn’t appreciate the doxxing.

lol..sure on the doxxing. You have 600 students in the senior class, assuming roughly 2500 students attend your imaginary high school. Not one applied to NEU. And you won't name the school. Sounds believable, my Nigerian prince who will help with my computer's infection after installing no-cost solar.

Not quite 2500. And not one. NEU is simply not on the radar. Believe what you want to believe.

Either 100% of the seniors are dumb and/or the college counseling department sucks.

I feel sorry for your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:NEU may not be Harvard and Yale, but there are only a few top colleges. I doubt very much someone who goes to Northeastern, BU, BC, NYU, Emory, WashU are all that different from one another, or in outcomes.

And yes, selectivity definitely helps perception.

This isn't like comparing Seton Hall to Georgetown.

I wouldn't call this selectivity. I would call it bloated applications due to lack of essay requirements. Everyone knows this, but NEU supporters conveniently forget this.

Adding a dumb essay asking 'why our school' doesn't have much effect.

Selectivity is function applicant quality + acceptance rate + yield rate.
NEU's applicant quality is very high and it has very low acceptance rate.
It's yield rate is not as good as those hyper selective schools
So overall it's super selective but not at the level of those T20 or so schools with hyper selectivity.

Come on now. "Selective" schools have more than one additional essay. Some have up to five. Having 3 or more additional essay requirements will weed out all of the people simply checking the box on the common app, which is why NEU has so many applications. If they required even one additional essay, I guarantee the applications would drop significantly. And your low yield rate only supports this theory.

Again, Case Western is a solid well respected good school that is ranked same as NEU.
It also doesn't have additional essay. Why NEU gets shit ton more apps??

The whole purpose of additioanl essay is to pick the right kids

If you moved NEU to Cleveland and CWRU to Boston, you would see a corresponding shift in the relative number of applicants.

Oh, so you are correcting yourself. It's not the essay. Got it.

Now it's the location?
There are a bunch of colleges in Boston but not many get that kind of applications unlike NEU.
Why?

My kid’s graduating class is over 600…not one student applied to NEU…non drank the Kool-Aid. My very high stats kid had no interest in the school. I agree with the pp, include mandatory's supplemental essays and the number of applications go south. Make SAT/ACT mandatory applications tank. I agree that Boston appeals to students; however, I’m from up north and the winters are long, gloomy, and brutally cold. Colleges play gimmicks to increase applications…NEU is not the only one. Do you think Tulane would receive so many applications if it charged?

Which high school? I guarantee you will not name it!

*none instead of non. Well, you are right about one thing at least. My kid wouldn’t appreciate the doxxing.

lol..sure on the doxxing. You have 600 students in the senior class, assuming roughly 2500 students attend your imaginary high school. Not one applied to NEU. And you won't name the school. Sounds believable, my Nigerian prince who will help with my computer's infection after installing no-cost solar.

Not quite 2500. And not one. NEU is simply not on the radar. Believe what you want to believe.

Either 100% of the seniors are dumb and/or the college counseling department sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:NEU may not be Harvard and Yale, but there are only a few top colleges. I doubt very much someone who goes to Northeastern, BU, BC, NYU, Emory, WashU are all that different from one another, or in outcomes.

And yes, selectivity definitely helps perception.

This isn't like comparing Seton Hall to Georgetown.

I wouldn't call this selectivity. I would call it bloated applications due to lack of essay requirements. Everyone knows this, but NEU supporters conveniently forget this.

Adding a dumb essay asking 'why our school' doesn't have much effect.

Selectivity is function applicant quality + acceptance rate + yield rate.
NEU's applicant quality is very high and it has very low acceptance rate.
It's yield rate is not as good as those hyper selective schools
So overall it's super selective but not at the level of those T20 or so schools with hyper selectivity.

Come on now. "Selective" schools have more than one additional essay. Some have up to five. Having 3 or more additional essay requirements will weed out all of the people simply checking the box on the common app, which is why NEU has so many applications. If they required even one additional essay, I guarantee the applications would drop significantly. And your low yield rate only supports this theory.

Again, Case Western is a solid well respected good school that is ranked same as NEU.
It also doesn't have additional essay. Why NEU gets shit ton more apps??

The whole purpose of additioanl essay is to pick the right kids

If you moved NEU to Cleveland and CWRU to Boston, you would see a corresponding shift in the relative number of applicants.

Oh, so you are correcting yourself. It's not the essay. Got it.

Now it's the location?
There are a bunch of colleges in Boston but not many get that kind of applications unlike NEU.
Why?

My kid’s graduating class is over 600…not one student applied to NEU…non drank the Kool-Aid. My very high stats kid had no interest in the school. I agree with the pp, include mandatory's supplemental essays and the number of applications go south. Make SAT/ACT mandatory applications tank. I agree that Boston appeals to students; however, I’m from up north and the winters are long, gloomy, and brutally cold. Colleges play gimmicks to increase applications…NEU is not the only one. Do you think Tulane would receive so many applications if it charged?

What college did you get your education from?

"I didn't apply and the kids at my school didn't apply, hence we can conclude......"

Seriously what's wrong with these people

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Anonymous wrote:NEU may not be Harvard and Yale, but there are only a few top colleges. I doubt very much someone who goes to Northeastern, BU, BC, NYU, Emory, WashU are all that different from one another, or in outcomes.

And yes, selectivity definitely helps perception.

This isn't like comparing Seton Hall to Georgetown.

I wouldn't call this selectivity. I would call it bloated applications due to lack of essay requirements. Everyone knows this, but NEU supporters conveniently forget this.

Adding a dumb essay asking 'why our school' doesn't have much effect.

Selectivity is function applicant quality + acceptance rate + yield rate.
NEU's applicant quality is very high and it has very low acceptance rate.
It's yield rate is not as good as those hyper selective schools
So overall it's super selective but not at the level of those T20 or so schools with hyper selectivity.

Come on now. "Selective" schools have more than one additional essay. Some have up to five. Having 3 or more additional essay requirements will weed out all of the people simply checking the box on the common app, which is why NEU has so many applications. If they required even one additional essay, I guarantee the applications would drop significantly. And your low yield rate only supports this theory.

Again, Case Western is a solid well respected good school that is ranked same as NEU.
It also doesn't have additional essay. Why NEU gets shit ton more apps??

The whole purpose of additioanl essay is to pick the right kids

If you moved NEU to Cleveland and CWRU to Boston, you would see a corresponding shift in the relative number of applicants.

Oh, so you are correcting yourself. It's not the essay. Got it.

Now it's the location?
There are a bunch of colleges in Boston but not many get that kind of applications unlike NEU.
Why?

My kid’s graduating class is over 600…not one student applied to NEU…non drank the Kool-Aid. My very high stats kid had no interest in the school. I agree with the pp, include mandatory's supplemental essays and the number of applications go south. Make SAT/ACT mandatory applications tank. I agree that Boston appeals to students; however, I’m from up north and the winters are long, gloomy, and brutally cold. Colleges play gimmicks to increase applications…NEU is not the only one. Do you think Tulane would receive so many applications if it charged?

Which high school? I guarantee you will not name it!

*none instead of non. Well, you are right about one thing at least. My kid wouldn’t appreciate the doxxing.

lol..sure on the doxxing. You have 600 students in the senior class, assuming roughly 2500 students attend your imaginary high school. Not one applied to NEU. And you won't name the school. Sounds believable, my Nigerian prince who will help with my computer's infection after installing no-cost solar.

Not quite 2500. And not one. NEU is simply not on the radar. Believe what you want to believe.

You do realize that Northeastern is one of the most applied to schools in the entire country? So your little anecdote sounds pretty stupid. And yet you still won't name this mythical high school. Just stop lying and save face.