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Anonymous wrote:How does an alleged white trash teenager from Ohio get the cushiest Marines gig there is during a hot war at age 18? An intel gig writing articles in an air conditioned office for a few years. Wow, what a lucky break!

Can we all refrain from using the term "white trash"? It's really bigoted. Also the adjacent "trailer trash." And I say this as a Dem. It just plays into the criticism of Dems and their disdain for "deplorables." Maybe use something softer like "lower-income white teenager" from a "disadvantaged background" or some such thing.

Anonymous wrote:Ivy League alumni who pose as anti-elite, anti-establishment, anti-intellectual, anti-expertise populists while primarily representing the interests of billionaire capitalist sociopaths are a plague that has taken over the Republican Party. Vance is phonier than Trump or Cruz or Cotton or Alito, if that is possible. It’s all a con. They jump in front of the 200+ year old nativist and bigoted and ignorant right-wing movement and appoint themselves its leaders while turning it into a vehicle for yet more tax breaks and deregulation for the capitalist establishment.

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Anonymous wrote:The genius of this pick is that the white supremacists will come out of their caves to attack Vance’s wife, and then Trump can tack to the center by attacking fringe actors like Ann Coulter, Nick Fuentes, and other literal racists who are gonna be pissed that a Hindu woman is potentially going to be First Lady.

The white liberal women activists in here still don’t get that vibes and optics far more that policy, and Vance and his cute Indian wife and their cute biracial kids are gonna be a huge boon for the campaign in the multiracial suburbs of DC, NY, Philly, etc. Think about how many votes having an actual Hindu woman on the ticket gets in places like Jackson Heights or how having just a brown woman who’s a daughter of immigrants plays with POC women who aren’t Black.

You can’t privilege identity politics on one hand and then act like her identity isn’t going to matter to some voters in November. In those swing states with multiracial suburban populations this will get you some numbers if played right.

So you think JD Vance's wife being Indian will matter more than Kamala Harris being Indian?

How do you think women in the suburbs will feel about him saying there should be no rape or incest exceptions for abortion bans? Who cares, he has a cute family and went to Yale?

This is such BS. Lots of BS coming from the left, including the Biden team:

Vance is opposed to abortion; on the website for his 2022 campaign for the Senate, he declared himself “100 percent pro-life” and called for “eliminating abortion.” However, he said on CNN in December 2023: “We have to accept that people do not want blanket abortion bans. They just don’t. And I say that as a person who wants to protect as many unborn babies as possible. We have to provide exceptions for life of the mother, for rape, and so forth.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/fact-check-biden-campaign-j-d-vance-heritage-foundation/index.html

Anonymous wrote:How does an alleged white trash teenager from Ohio get the cushiest Marines gig there is during a hot war at age 18? An intel gig writing articles in an air conditioned office for a few years. Wow, what a lucky break!

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Anonymous wrote:Dems are so funny. Do you have anything to say other than snarky personal attacks?

+1. I love how they are using gay and religion as pejoratives when it suits their theme.

Anonymous wrote:Dems are so funny. Do you have anything to say other than snarky personal attacks?

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Anonymous wrote:Did he really think he was gay?

Yes, word for word in his book, complete with an alleged conversation with grandma about gays and his own internal dialogue about how accepting Christianity is of gays.

He was just a child and had no idea what it even meant to be gay. His grandma told him she'd love him even if he was. The end.

Who did "J.D." date in high school, in the military, in college, and in law school before Usha? Then after law school the devout "Catholic" links up with gay coastal billionaire Peter Thiel. Then marries a Brahmin classmate from Yale Law School in a Hindu ceremony. Then raises his kids Hindu. So Catholic dad goes to Sunday Mass and let's the Hell-bound wife and kids watch cartoons? Interesting.

Anonymous wrote:Did you know JD Vance started a nonprofit in 2017 that was supposed to address some of the problems he raised in his book? It was called Our Ohio Renewal, and it's mission was to “make it easier for disadvantaged children to achieve their dreams.” He said it would get to work fighting Ohio’s toughest problems: opioids, joblessness and broken families. Within two years, it had fizzled.

Mr. Vance’s nonprofit group raised only about $220,000, hired only a handful of staff members, shrank drastically in 2018 and died for good in 2021. It left only the faintest mark on the state it had been meant to change, leaving behind a pair of op-eds and two tweets. (Mr. Vance also started a sister charity, which paid for a psychiatrist to spend a year in a small-town Ohio clinic. Then it shuttered, too.) On the campaign trail, he has said his group stalled because a key staff member was diagnosed with cancer.

But some of the nonprofit group’s own workers said they had drawn a different conclusion: They had been lured by the promise of helping Ohio, but instead had been used to help Mr. Vance start his career in politics.

During its brief life, Mr. Vance’s organization paid a political consultant who also advised Mr. Vance about entering the 2018 Senate race. It paid an assistant who helped schedule Mr. Vance’s political speeches. And it paid for a survey of “Ohio citizens” that several of the staff members said they had never seen.

Another person who worked for the nonprofit group said that, in hindsight, it had seemed aimed at serving Mr. Vance’s ambition by giving him a presence in a state where he had not lived full-time for several years. The person said it had felt as if much of the job involved giving outsiders the impression that Mr. Vance was in the state, said the person, who asked not to be identified for fear of antagonizing Mr. Vance and his supporters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/us/politics/jd-vance-ohio-senate-nonprofit.html

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Anonymous wrote:The genius of this pick is that the white supremacists will come out of their caves to attack Vance’s wife, and then Trump can tack to the center by attacking fringe actors like Ann Coulter, Nick Fuentes, and other literal racists who are gonna be pissed that a Hindu woman is potentially going to be First Lady.

The white liberal women activists in here still don’t get that vibes and optics far more that policy, and Vance and his cute Indian wife and their cute biracial kids are gonna be a huge boon for the campaign in the multiracial suburbs of DC, NY, Philly, etc. Think about how many votes having an actual Hindu woman on the ticket gets in places like Jackson Heights or how having just a brown woman who’s a daughter of immigrants plays with POC women who aren’t Black.

You can’t privilege identity politics on one hand and then act like her identity isn’t going to matter to some voters in November. In those swing states with multiracial suburban populations this will get you some numbers if played right.

So you think JD Vance's wife being Indian will matter more than Kamala Harris being Indian?

How do you think women in the suburbs will feel about him saying there should be no rape or incest exceptions for abortion bans? Who cares, he has a cute family and went to Yale?

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if Haley and Scott turned him down or if Trump and his team are really dumb enough to believe Vance was the best choice.

How are those others a better choice? Vance is the best choice.

Vance adds nothing to this ticket. It's a doubling down on Trump and not bringing in anything new.

I have to say, I feel the tiniest bit better now. I was worried it was going to be Haley.

Agreed, and or Younkin!

No, Youngkin campaigned hard in the Virginia midterms for Republicans across the state and very few of them won. I know when he won the governorship, people had high hopes for him, but he turned out to be a dud who simply won with a combo of suburban moms who were angry about slow Covid school reopenings and a really bad/unmotivating opponent.

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Anonymous wrote:I never read Vance’s book nor did I see the movie but I heard him interviewed once when he was promoting them.

Didn’t he write his own book without a ghostwriter or coauthor?

I still don’t really care to read it because that genre is not my thing, but you have to respect that.

Yes, he wrote his own book. My kids were assigned to read it in high school and it made a huge impact on them and their work ethics.

Anonymous wrote:This is so true