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RUSSIAN/US/NATO BASE LOCATIONS:
The US Bases are in other countries by INVITATION (not INVASION). In other words, the host nation countries WANTED them there. Huge difference you kinda glossed over. lol.

ENDING THE WAR:
As was said many times by someone else, the War ends when Russia decides to pull out of Ukraine. It's as simple as that!

WEST DESTROYING RUSSIA:
Russia is destroying itself. Aside from providing weapons and supplies, the West really hasn't done anything except stand around and watch this abomination continue. However, after watching this clip, I have no doubts, reservations or apprehensions anymore that the Ukrainians are doing a righteous service for the entire world and should be honored as such.
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

RUSSIAN NAZI CHECK:
1. "Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system" ex. anti-West; CHECK!
2. "It incorporates a dictatorship" ex. Putin; CHECK!
3. "fervent antisemitism" ex. Jails or deports Jews to Siberia or Israel; CHECK!
4. "scientific racism, white supremacy, social Darwinism";
https://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-russia-africans-20141102-story.html; CHECK!
5. "use of eugenics" ex. Russian olympians; CHECK!
6. "anti-communist"... oh?
Only 5 out of 6, so Russians are technically not Nazi's (just wannabe's).

LAST 20 YEARS:
Russia has not been a good global citizen. The Russian Government continues to undermine other governments, invade it's neighbors, and has committed just about every war crime possible.

US PROMISE NOT TO EXPAND NATO EAST:
NATO didn't expand, until Russia became a War Criminal. Finland, Sweden had no intention of joining NATO prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so who's fault is that?

JULIA DAVIS:
Is now being blocked from showing clips by VESTI on "copyright grounds":
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1658691883248525312

So the Russian news is now only for Russian consumption? Interesting.

The war "is fateful for us," Shakhnazarov said, "our political elites have to realize this. We should start admitting that this is not simply a special military operation but a war. If we lose this war, we will disappear" like some Native American tribes which "have simply vanished." He went on to suggest that defeat for Moscow's forces in Ukraine would lead to books being written about "how Russia lost itself and Eurasia." Solovyov chimed in to say he hoped Ukraine understood that "if we lose, we are taking the whole world with us." "Let me remind you what the Supreme Commander said, 'who needs the world if Russia isn't in it?'" Solovyov said, referring to a quote by President Vladimir Putin. The anchor then went on say that Russia should use its nuclear weapons, shed restrictions against testing and "convincingly demonstrate what we have."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-solovyov-war-1800807

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it's hilarious, sad, or both, that Russia is trying to sell Africa this ludicrous "Russia is your anticolonialism friend" rhetoric even as they currently are actively engaged in a violent attempt to colonize Ukraine.

And Russia has been involved in arming and equipping almost every terrorist group, every coup attempt, every warlord to rise in the last 30 years. Do they carry AR-15s? No. They carry AK-47s and Russian RPGs.

LOL now do Al-Nusra front who was running around with guns America said it was shipping to the Free Syria Army.

Oh! And let's not forget Al Qaeda!

Cool story bro. Their weapons were and continue to be Russian. Even the favorite of Putin's puppet Lukashenka! https://www.rferl.org/a/30801778.html

Well...if you're going down the road of tracking the weapons tyrants use worldwide, it would be highly apropos to bring up this:

https://theintercept.com/2023/05/11/united-st...reign-weapons-sales/
"The reality, however, is that the Biden administration has helped increase the military power of a large number of authoritarian countries. According to an Intercept review of recently released government data, the U.S. sold weapons to at least 57 percent of the world’s autocratic countries in 2022."

I now await the typical writhing that ensues whenever you remind America that its best friends and allies are the worst dictators in the world.

This deserves a deep, and healthy LAUGH!!!!!!

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/24/the-intercept-greenwald-grim-profile-media-politics-left-liberal-226710/

Poor Pierre. He unwittingly funded a MAGA propaganda mouthpiece. I think he's a smart guy but needs to grow a pair and pull the plug on these guys..

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it's hilarious, sad, or both, that Russia is trying to sell Africa this ludicrous "Russia is your anticolonialism friend" rhetoric even as they currently are actively engaged in a violent attempt to colonize Ukraine.

And Russia has been involved in arming and equipping almost every terrorist group, every coup attempt, every warlord to rise in the last 30 years. Do they carry AR-15s? No. They carry AK-47s and Russian RPGs.

LOL now do Al-Nusra front who was running around with guns America said it was shipping to the Free Syria Army.

Oh! And let's not forget Al Qaeda!

Cool story bro. Their weapons were and continue to be Russian. Even the favorite of Putin's puppet Lukashenka! https://www.rferl.org/a/30801778.html

Well...if you're going down the road of tracking the weapons tyrants use worldwide, it would be highly apropos to bring up this:

https://theintercept.com/2023/05/11/united-st...reign-weapons-sales/
"The reality, however, is that the Biden administration has helped increase the military power of a large number of authoritarian countries. According to an Intercept review of recently released government data, the U.S. sold weapons to at least 57 percent of the world’s autocratic countries in 2022."

I now await the typical writhing that ensues whenever you remind America that its best friends and allies are the worst dictators in the world.

This deserves a deep, and healthy LAUGH!!!!!!

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/24/the-intercept-greenwald-grim-profile-media-politics-left-liberal-226710/

Poor Pierre. He unwittingly funded a MAGA propaganda mouthpiece. I think he's a smart guy but needs to grow a pair and pull the plug on these guys..

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Anonymous wrote:
RUSSIAN/US/NATO BASE LOCATIONS:
The US Bases are in other countries by INVITATION (not INVASION). In other words, the host nation countries WANTED them there. Huge difference you kinda glossed over. lol.

ENDING THE WAR:
As was said many times by someone else, the War ends when Russia decides to pull out of Ukraine. It's as simple as that!

WEST DESTROYING RUSSIA:
Russia is destroying itself. Aside from providing weapons and supplies, the West really hasn't done anything except stand around and watch this abomination continue. However, after watching this clip, I have no doubts, reservations or apprehensions anymore that the Ukrainians are doing a righteous service for the entire world and should be honored as such.
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

RUSSIAN NAZI CHECK:
1. "Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system" ex. anti-West; CHECK!
2. "It incorporates a dictatorship" ex. Putin; CHECK!
3. "fervent antisemitism" ex. Jails or deports Jews to Siberia or Israel; CHECK!
4. "scientific racism, white supremacy, social Darwinism";
https://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-russia-africans-20141102-story.html; CHECK!
5. "use of eugenics" ex. Russian olympians; CHECK!
6. "anti-communist"... oh?
Only 5 out of 6, so Russians are technically not Nazi's (just wannabe's).

LAST 20 YEARS:
Russia has not been a good global citizen. The Russian Government continues to undermine other governments, invade it's neighbors, and has committed just about every war crime possible.

US PROMISE NOT TO EXPAND NATO EAST:
NATO didn't expand, until Russia became a War Criminal. Finland, Sweden had no intention of joining NATO prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so who's fault is that?

JULIA DAVIS:
Is now being blocked from showing clips by VESTI on "copyright grounds":
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1658691883248525312

So the Russian news is now only for Russian consumption? Interesting.

The war "is fateful for us," Shakhnazarov said, "our political elites have to realize this. We should start admitting that this is not simply a special military operation but a war. If we lose this war, we will disappear" like some Native American tribes which "have simply vanished." He went on to suggest that defeat for Moscow's forces in Ukraine would lead to books being written about "how Russia lost itself and Eurasia." Solovyov chimed in to say he hoped Ukraine understood that "if we lose, we are taking the whole world with us." "Let me remind you what the Supreme Commander said, 'who needs the world if Russia isn't in it?'" Solovyov said, referring to a quote by President Vladimir Putin. The anchor then went on say that Russia should use its nuclear weapons, shed restrictions against testing and "convincingly demonstrate what we have."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-solovyov-war-1800807

I think you should use more caps. There's definitely not enough caps in your post to be fully convincing.

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.

That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.

You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).

DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.

Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt?

Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction. What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations? Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians? There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days. Did your guy give up the coordinates?

Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right?

Wow you guys work fast. I just heard about tonight's unstoppable hypersonic khinzal and came to laugh about how last century's patriot missile batteries shot them down again. But you all were on top of things and ready. Kudos to your work ethic. It must be so difficult to keep up appearances these days.

This is a very tired tactic of accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a troll
I simply don’t think that there is joy in children dying

You disagreeing is not an issue. The issue is that people like you constantly repeat Russian propaganda talking points. It's tiresome. You're not being a critical, original thinker. You're just parroting the lies the Russian government is spreading through social media.

But it's not like there's only one set of talking points in this space, is it? Ukraine has its own propaganda machine and it is churning out material nonstop. There's no much original thought there either. Everyone is parroting someone.

I understand that Ukraine is churning out propaganda, but I also understand, because I'm not an idiot, that there's no "two sides" to this conflict. Anyone who thinks there is, is falling for Russian propaganda that is intended to break the resolve of the US and our allies to support an (imperfect) democracy in a war of national survival. Maybe we've gotten used to ambiguous wars, because the US has fought in so many of them. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is not one of them.

I have to wonder what someone is thinking if they look at this conflict and conclude that somehow Ukraine is more than 5% responsible for the war. And that Russia has some legitimate points.

I mean there are volumes upon volumes of diplomatic writings and reports, produced by Americans, going back to the 90s, that say NATO's eastward push is a bad idea, flirting with Ukraine is a bad idea, red line blah blah. Prior to the invasion, it wasn't even remotely controversial. But now people behave like this never existed.

Next, you're going to bring up the nonsense about how the US promised Russia they wouldn't expand NATO east.

The reason countries want to join NATO is because they know if they don't, what happened to Ukraine could happen to them. There's a reason Russia invaded Ukraine and not Estonia.

The lies about NATO expansion, there never being any intention of following the Minsk Accords, and the general untrustworthiness of the Ukrainian leadership is going to make a negotiated end difficult. This will grind on until the Ukraine completely collapses.

A most interesting document from GWU - are they bots, sociopaths or paid propagandists?

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.

It’s comical how throughout this thread you try to advance some sort of intellectual argument to bolster Russia’s unjust attack on Ukraine. It’s like “the beatings wills continue until morale improves”.

No, you propaganda bot. No one is buying your underhanded, bad faith bullsht attempts at a highbrow justification for this illegal war.

The world is uniting and it’s all cause you fked up.

No one? There isn't anyone here but a tantruming, frothing you.

It's comical how easy it is to make you scream.

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Anonymous wrote:Russia could have peace TOMORROW.

All it takes is leaving Ukraine. Simple as that.

No one believes that though. As soon as Russia backs down, the alphabet boys will start running color revolutions in the stans and probably in Russia itself. NATO will build more bases on Russia's borders and try to expand into the Pacific. The sanctions won't be lifted until the vulture capitalists get a chance to buy up all the Russian assets on the cheap.

Its slowly sunk in over the last year that Russia either has to win or NATO will attempt to dismember it. There is no chance at simple peace anymore. People who actually know what they are talking about realized this back in the 90s. Then the neo-cons took over foreign policy and its been a steady stream of disasters and hypocrisy since.

This didn't have to be a high-stakes game, but thanks to people like you, and your blood lust, it now is.

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Anonymous wrote:
RUSSIAN/US/NATO BASE LOCATIONS:
The US Bases are in other countries by INVITATION (not INVASION). In other words, the host nation countries WANTED them there. Huge difference you kinda glossed over. lol.

ENDING THE WAR:
As was said many times by someone else, the War ends when Russia decides to pull out of Ukraine. It's as simple as that!

WEST DESTROYING RUSSIA:
Russia is destroying itself. Aside from providing weapons and supplies, the West really hasn't done anything except stand around and watch this abomination continue. However, after watching this clip, I have no doubts, reservations or apprehensions anymore that the Ukrainians are doing a righteous service for the entire world and should be honored as such.
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

RUSSIAN NAZI CHECK:
1. "Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system" ex. anti-West; CHECK!
2. "It incorporates a dictatorship" ex. Putin; CHECK!
3. "fervent antisemitism" ex. Jails or deports Jews to Siberia or Israel; CHECK!
4. "scientific racism, white supremacy, social Darwinism";
https://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-russia-africans-20141102-story.html; CHECK!
5. "use of eugenics" ex. Russian olympians; CHECK!
6. "anti-communist"... oh?
Only 5 out of 6, so Russians are technically not Nazi's (just wannabe's).

LAST 20 YEARS:
Russia has not been a good global citizen. The Russian Government continues to undermine other governments, invade it's neighbors, and has committed just about every war crime possible.

US PROMISE NOT TO EXPAND NATO EAST:
NATO didn't expand, until Russia became a War Criminal. Finland, Sweden had no intention of joining NATO prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so who's fault is that?

JULIA DAVIS:
Is now being blocked from showing clips by VESTI on "copyright grounds":
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1658691883248525312

So the Russian news is now only for Russian consumption? Interesting.

The war "is fateful for us," Shakhnazarov said, "our political elites have to realize this. We should start admitting that this is not simply a special military operation but a war. If we lose this war, we will disappear" like some Native American tribes which "have simply vanished." He went on to suggest that defeat for Moscow's forces in Ukraine would lead to books being written about "how Russia lost itself and Eurasia." Solovyov chimed in to say he hoped Ukraine understood that "if we lose, we are taking the whole world with us." "Let me remind you what the Supreme Commander said, 'who needs the world if Russia isn't in it?'" Solovyov said, referring to a quote by President Vladimir Putin. The anchor then went on say that Russia should use its nuclear weapons, shed restrictions against testing and "convincingly demonstrate what we have."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-solovyov-war-1800807

I think you should use more caps. There's definitely not enough caps in your post to be fully convincing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it's hilarious, sad, or both, that Russia is trying to sell Africa this ludicrous "Russia is your anticolonialism friend" rhetoric even as they currently are actively engaged in a violent attempt to colonize Ukraine.

And Russia has been involved in arming and equipping almost every terrorist group, every coup attempt, every warlord to rise in the last 30 years. Do they carry AR-15s? No. They carry AK-47s and Russian RPGs.

LOL now do Al-Nusra front who was running around with guns America said it was shipping to the Free Syria Army.

Oh! And let's not forget Al Qaeda!

Cool story bro. Their weapons were and continue to be Russian. Even the favorite of Putin's puppet Lukashenka! https://www.rferl.org/a/30801778.html

Well...if you're going down the road of tracking the weapons tyrants use worldwide, it would be highly apropos to bring up this:

https://theintercept.com/2023/05/11/united-st...reign-weapons-sales/
"The reality, however, is that the Biden administration has helped increase the military power of a large number of authoritarian countries. According to an Intercept review of recently released government data, the U.S. sold weapons to at least 57 percent of the world’s autocratic countries in 2022."

I now await the typical writhing that ensues whenever you remind America that its best friends and allies are the worst dictators in the world.

Anonymous wrote:Russia could have peace TOMORROW.

All it takes is leaving Ukraine. Simple as that.

Anonymous wrote:
RUSSIAN/US/NATO BASE LOCATIONS:
The US Bases are in other countries by INVITATION (not INVASION). In other words, the host nation countries WANTED them there. Huge difference you kinda glossed over. lol.

ENDING THE WAR:
As was said many times by someone else, the War ends when Russia decides to pull out of Ukraine. It's as simple as that!

WEST DESTROYING RUSSIA:
Russia is destroying itself. Aside from providing weapons and supplies, the West really hasn't done anything except stand around and watch this abomination continue. However, after watching this clip, I have no doubts, reservations or apprehensions anymore that the Ukrainians are doing a righteous service for the entire world and should be honored as such.
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

RUSSIAN NAZI CHECK:
1. "Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system" ex. anti-West; CHECK!
2. "It incorporates a dictatorship" ex. Putin; CHECK!
3. "fervent antisemitism" ex. Jails or deports Jews to Siberia or Israel; CHECK!
4. "scientific racism, white supremacy, social Darwinism";
https://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-russia-africans-20141102-story.html; CHECK!
5. "use of eugenics" ex. Russian olympians; CHECK!
6. "anti-communist"... oh?
Only 5 out of 6, so Russians are technically not Nazi's (just wannabe's).

LAST 20 YEARS:
Russia has not been a good global citizen. The Russian Government continues to undermine other governments, invade it's neighbors, and has committed just about every war crime possible.

US PROMISE NOT TO EXPAND NATO EAST:
NATO didn't expand, until Russia became a War Criminal. Finland, Sweden had no intention of joining NATO prior to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so who's fault is that?

JULIA DAVIS:
Is now being blocked from showing clips by VESTI on "copyright grounds":
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1658691883248525312

So the Russian news is now only for Russian consumption? Interesting.

The war "is fateful for us," Shakhnazarov said, "our political elites have to realize this. We should start admitting that this is not simply a special military operation but a war. If we lose this war, we will disappear" like some Native American tribes which "have simply vanished." He went on to suggest that defeat for Moscow's forces in Ukraine would lead to books being written about "how Russia lost itself and Eurasia." Solovyov chimed in to say he hoped Ukraine understood that "if we lose, we are taking the whole world with us." "Let me remind you what the Supreme Commander said, 'who needs the world if Russia isn't in it?'" Solovyov said, referring to a quote by President Vladimir Putin. The anchor then went on say that Russia should use its nuclear weapons, shed restrictions against testing and "convincingly demonstrate what we have."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-solovyov-war-1800807

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if it's hilarious, sad, or both, that Russia is trying to sell Africa this ludicrous "Russia is your anticolonialism friend" rhetoric even as they currently are actively engaged in a violent attempt to colonize Ukraine.

And Russia has been involved in arming and equipping almost every terrorist group, every coup attempt, every warlord to rise in the last 30 years. Do they carry AR-15s? No. They carry AK-47s and Russian RPGs.

LOL now do Al-Nusra front who was running around with guns America said it was shipping to the Free Syria Army.

Oh! And let's not forget Al Qaeda!

Cool story bro. Their weapons were and continue to be Russian. Even the favorite of Putin's puppet Lukashenka! https://www.rferl.org/a/30801778.html

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.

That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.

You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).

DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.

Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt?

Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction. What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations? Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians? There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days. Did your guy give up the coordinates?

Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right?

Wow you guys work fast. I just heard about tonight's unstoppable hypersonic khinzal and came to laugh about how last century's patriot missile batteries shot them down again. But you all were on top of things and ready. Kudos to your work ethic. It must be so difficult to keep up appearances these days.

This is a very tired tactic of accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a troll
I simply don’t think that there is joy in children dying

You disagreeing is not an issue. The issue is that people like you constantly repeat Russian propaganda talking points. It's tiresome. You're not being a critical, original thinker. You're just parroting the lies the Russian government is spreading through social media.

But it's not like there's only one set of talking points in this space, is it? Ukraine has its own propaganda machine and it is churning out material nonstop. There's no much original thought there either. Everyone is parroting someone.

I understand that Ukraine is churning out propaganda, but I also understand, because I'm not an idiot, that there's no "two sides" to this conflict. Anyone who thinks there is, is falling for Russian propaganda that is intended to break the resolve of the US and our allies to support an (imperfect) democracy in a war of national survival. Maybe we've gotten used to ambiguous wars, because the US has fought in so many of them. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is not one of them.

I have to wonder what someone is thinking if they look at this conflict and conclude that somehow Ukraine is more than 5% responsible for the war. And that Russia has some legitimate points.

I mean there are volumes upon volumes of diplomatic writings and reports, produced by Americans, going back to the 90s, that say NATO's eastward push is a bad idea, flirting with Ukraine is a bad idea, red line blah blah. Prior to the invasion, it wasn't even remotely controversial. But now people behave like this never existed.

Next, you're going to bring up the nonsense about how the US promised Russia they wouldn't expand NATO east.

The reason countries want to join NATO is because they know if they don't, what happened to Ukraine could happen to them. There's a reason Russia invaded Ukraine and not Estonia.

The lies about NATO expansion, there never being any intention of following the Minsk Accords, and the general untrustworthiness of the Ukrainian leadership is going to make a negotiated end difficult. This will grind on until the Ukraine completely collapses.

A most interesting document from GWU - are they bots, sociopaths or paid propagandists?

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.

It’s comical how throughout this thread you try to advance some sort of intellectual argument to bolster Russia’s unjust attack on Ukraine. It’s like “the beatings wills continue until morale improves”.

No, you propaganda bot. No one is buying your underhanded, bad faith bullsht attempts at a highbrow justification for this illegal war.

The world is uniting and it’s all cause you fked up.