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Post 03/27/2023 11:18     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.


And yet you still lack reading comprehension. PPs gave specific examples of possible COST SAVINGS as well
As specifics for asking for more money. It will have to be both for APS.


Huh? Taking away a few days of holidays from syphax wouldn’t come close to covering teacher raises and smaller classrooms. Maybe math isn’t her strong point?


What IS her strong point? Leading the most abusive and divisive group APS has ever seen? Making our teachers quit? Ruining our public school system?


Yes, she single-handedly is making our teachers quit and ruining our whole public school system. The "adults" who perpetrated vitriolic behavior have had nothing to do with any of it; nor the poor leadership from Central office, or the stresses of the pandemic itself; or the risk/fear of having something you do or say taken out of context and blown out of proportion; or academic standards being lowered and not being trusted to teach an appropriate curriculum; or finally deciding the rewards of teaching just no longer outweigh the negatives; or, or, or, or,.....
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Post 03/27/2023 09:28     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.


And yet you still lack reading comprehension. PPs gave specific examples of possible COST SAVINGS as well
As specifics for asking for more money. It will have to be both for APS.


Huh? Taking away a few days of holidays from syphax wouldn’t come close to covering teacher raises and smaller classrooms. Maybe math isn’t her strong point?


What IS her strong point? Leading the most abusive and divisive group APS has ever seen? Making our teachers quit? Ruining our public school system?


Ruining our public school system? You are unhinged.
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Post 03/26/2023 16:14     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.


And yet you still lack reading comprehension. PPs gave specific examples of possible COST SAVINGS as well
As specifics for asking for more money. It will have to be both for APS.


Huh? Taking away a few days of holidays from syphax wouldn’t come close to covering teacher raises and smaller classrooms. Maybe math isn’t her strong point?


What IS her strong point? Leading the most abusive and divisive group APS has ever seen? Making our teachers quit? Ruining our public school system?


There are a certain group of parents who view this as a positive. That is her base in APE.
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Post 03/26/2023 12:23     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.


And yet you still lack reading comprehension. PPs gave specific examples of possible COST SAVINGS as well
As specifics for asking for more money. It will have to be both for APS.


Huh? Taking away a few days of holidays from syphax wouldn’t come close to covering teacher raises and smaller classrooms. Maybe math isn’t her strong point?


What IS her strong point? Leading the most abusive and divisive group APS has ever seen? Making our teachers quit? Ruining our public school system?
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Post 03/26/2023 12:21     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


That article is outdated.

Mask mandates are not coming back, for better or worse.

Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.


That is literally posted on the AAP's website RIGHT NOW. It is not outdated. Good grief, your denialism anti science claims run strong. This is exactly what we don't need with Miranda.


It was published one year ago.

If it’s so critical for Miranda to advocate for masks, why aren’t you going after the current board, the superintendent, and the Biden administration for not pushing mask mandates? Under your rubric, they are all anti-science.


No one is pushing a return to wide scale mask mandates. The point is that our conservative state govt took this public health tool away from local school boards so now it can never be used even in a targeted way when there are local outbreaks or extremely high cases or a new variant that no one has immunity to. Our school board pushed back. Miranda did not, she went with the Youngkin position. That is telling.
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Post 03/26/2023 12:19     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


That article is outdated.

Mask mandates are not coming back, for better or worse.

Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.


That is literally posted on the AAP's website RIGHT NOW. It is not outdated. Good grief, your denialism anti science claims run strong. This is exactly what we don't need with Miranda.


It was published one year ago.

If it’s so critical for Miranda to advocate for masks, why aren’t you going after the current board, the superintendent, and the Biden administration for not pushing mask mandates? Under your rubric, they are all anti-science.


And it is still UP on the AAP website which means it is the current advice. You seem dense. Or in denial.
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Post 03/26/2023 11:23     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.


And yet you still lack reading comprehension. PPs gave specific examples of possible COST SAVINGS as well
As specifics for asking for more money. It will have to be both for APS.


Huh? Taking away a few days of holidays from syphax wouldn’t come close to covering teacher raises and smaller classrooms. Maybe math isn’t her strong point?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 11:14     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:+1000

I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


That article is outdated.

Mask mandates are not coming back, for better or worse.

Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.


That is literally posted on the AAP's website RIGHT NOW. It is not outdated. Good grief, your denialism anti science claims run strong. This is exactly what we don't need with Miranda.


It was published one year ago.

If it’s so critical for Miranda to advocate for masks, why aren’t you going after the current board, the superintendent, and the Biden administration for not pushing mask mandates? Under your rubric, they are all anti-science.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 22:51     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:+1000

I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


That article is outdated.

Mask mandates are not coming back, for better or worse.

Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.


That is literally posted on the AAP's website RIGHT NOW. It is not outdated. Good grief, your denialism anti science claims run strong. This is exactly what we don't need with Miranda.


Yes, please keep pounding on Miranda as the anti-mask candidate. This is going to resonate with so many people in spring 2023 and compel them to vote for (checks notes) some random 22 year old.

I hope you have a strong independent lined up for the general election because you’re going nowhere with this.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 22:18     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:+1000

I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


That article is outdated.

Mask mandates are not coming back, for better or worse.

Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.


That is literally posted on the AAP's website RIGHT NOW. It is not outdated. Good grief, your denialism anti science claims run strong. This is exactly what we don't need with Miranda.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 18:57     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:+1000

I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


That article is outdated.

Mask mandates are not coming back, for better or worse.

Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 17:29     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:+1000

I don't trust APE science as far as I can throw it. Let's recap some of the APE talking points, shall we? COVID doesn't spread in schools! Schools are magical little Covid free islands of safety! Kids can't spread Covid. Kids can't get Covid. Covid is no more deadly than the flu. There's no such thing as long Covid, it's all in people's heads. Only the high risk die from Covid and who cares about them. Masks don't work! Masks spread Covid. Masks harm kids.

No one believes you except for your small little group.


If that’s true why don’t I see anyone wearing masks anymore?


Thanks, I'll trust the American Academy of Pediatrics' views on masks over you. Here ya god, Mask Mythbusters from the AAP, just what you and your anti mask APE friends in the Miranda camp need -

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Mask-Mythbusters.aspx?fbclid=IwAR08Gon8YJ44rvAxIO2tuQnV3rSyHub5ZVaF4z04V7CsCf4oEkctdocC4gs


Thank you for this. APE was aggressively anti health and still is. I cringe to have their leader on the school board.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 15:06     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.


And yet you still lack reading comprehension. PPs gave specific examples of possible COST SAVINGS as well
As specifics for asking for more money. It will have to be both for APS.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 13:47     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.


No people asked multiple times how she would pay for them, and which programs she would cut to pay for her ideas which are quite expensive. The only answer given was ask for more money. Uh yeah, who doesn't want to ask for more money? That's not a very solid plan.

so I ask again, what is she proposing to cut? And I don't expect a real answer.
Anonymous
Post 03/25/2023 13:19     Subject: Re:APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering how APS teachers feel about a specific group of parents, here is an APS teacher (now former) who put her name on it --


At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing. In September 2021 alone, 30,000 public school teachers nationwide gave notice. Between August 2020 and August 2021, Florida’s teacher vacancies surged 67 percent, according to a count by the Florida Education Association. In 2021, California’s largest district, Los Angeles Unified, had five times the number of vacancies as in previous years, according to Shannon Haber, a spokeswoman for the district. The number of retirements skyrocketed, and I joined the exodus. I was within a couple of years of my target retirement date, but I left earlier than planned because of the mounting stress around the pandemic and an ever-increasing workload.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR2UZodgy4iGVxCs8_X8Jp-yrhrMPKsHd6lhvFl5CAJ6rpmbqn9jA0FgT1o


The raw, misdirected hostility towards teachers was so crazy. I’m still shocked by what some parents did.

My kid was on teams **in class** when a parent interrupted and started screaming and cursing at the teacher. In front of all of the kids!!! The teacher handled it well, but WTAF?!


Yup. And then a lot of parents who were angry about schools closing took their kids out of APS and left for private schools, including one of our school bd candidates, so this is a problem they created for others to deal with.

I don't know how we repair the damage they did.


Certainly not by choosing a SB member who thought their actions were acceptable enough to partner with them.


What a slap in the face that would be to our teachers.


*OR* maybe our teachers would be thrilled to have a SB member lobbying for higher pay and smaller class sizes?


Everyone wants these things. But OK, I'll bite. Just how does she plan to pay for that?


How does ANYone plan to pay for them?


Well since you said this is Miranda's platform, does she have an actual plan to pay for them or are they just empty words?

I didn't say that. Different people commenting. Question stands. How does anyone plan to pay for these things? AEM people constantly griping about teacher salaries and calling for raises to compensate for inflation AND step increases. How do they propose paying for them????


the AEM commenters are not running for the school board. Miranda is. Someone said she's advocating for these things and said that in a good way, like we should vote for her for that reason. So then people asked how she plans to pay for it. and then.... crickets.



That is evidence that it isn't a simple problem to solve. If nobody else in this collective of highly educated, all-knowing Arlington community can come up with a solution or even suggestions, it's unrealistic to expect a local SB candidate would fare much better. Throw out some ideas to her and see what she thinks of them.


I'll take this as an admission that she doesn't have her own ideas. pass.


Her website and newsletter seem to have plenty of specifics. She wants APS to release the class size report. Parents and teachers in dcum and AEM have complained about classes being over the max sizes. Why won’t APS release the report? She asked for an independent auditor. The last one got fired after giving a bad report on VLP. She asked for APS to reverse the extra paid holidays that syphax is getting. Added by duran last year and Teachers don’t get paid for those. She’s asked for county help for mental health supports. She arranged a forum with a county board member on the same.

She’s clued in, paying attention and has specific ideas.


So how specifically was she going to pay for higher teacher salary and smaller class size? Those syphax holidays won’t cover it.


Bet those syphax holidays cost more than you think.

When she was on APE board, they asked for an increase in revenue sharing to help pay for smaller class sizes and more teacher pay. Letter is on their website. Most anyone who pays attention in Arlington knows this is what's going to have to happen. Arlington county provides a smaller percent of revenues to APS that surrounding counties//school systems. But the reality is if you aren't paying attention to the small stuff like having an independent auditor or adding a ridiculous amount of paid holidays, you won't ever be able to do the big stuff even if the County forks over more money.


Is that her current position?

How much overlap does she have with APE positions?


Ask her. She's not listed on the APE board anymore. But her newsletter and website have alot of specifics of someone paying attention to details.


So no solutions. Just talk.

I’m going with the kid who didn’t lead APE.


You: I want specifics

Me: Here are specifics

You: Not those specifics. See I told you she was no solutions.



The question was what is her plan to pay for teacher salary increases and smaller classrooms. That was never answered.


+ 1.

Still waaaaiitting


Multiple posts have provided specific ideas that she has flagged that would be cost savings or bring in more revenue. I'm worried about your reading comprehension. In any case, forums start soon and you can directly ask then. But doesn't seem like you are paying much attention to the details in any case.