Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:30
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
No, this is not true. Democrats won't vote for an election saboteur nor someone who will not partner in good faith. If GOP put up one of the handful of non-election deniers a Speaker, Dem would consider it.
Don't try to both sides this. GOP dysfunction and everyone expects the Dems to clean up their sh!t. Just like maintenance had to clean up insurrectionists sh!t.
Like who? I'm struggling to think of any GOP rep who is not somewhere on the spectrum of crazy.
Fred Upton?
He's no longer in Congress. And he's not there because he was run out by the crazies. Why would we think the crazy people that ran him out would now vote for him?
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:26
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:From Veep writer David Mandel:
Thank you - this is just what I needed after sitting through the 9th(!) vote.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:26
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
No, this is not true. Democrats won't vote for an election saboteur nor someone who will not partner in good faith. If GOP put up one of the handful of non-election deniers a Speaker, Dem would consider it.
Don't try to both sides this. GOP dysfunction and everyone expects the Dems to clean up their sh!t. Just like maintenance had to clean up insurrectionists sh!t.
Like who? I'm struggling to think of any GOP rep who is not somewhere on the spectrum of crazy.
Fred Upton?
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:25
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How come the Senate didn't have this issue but the house does
The Senate doesn’t need a Speaker to function.
Also the Senate is held by Ds, who believe in government, while the House is Rs, who want to burn the whole thing to the ground (except the part paying their salary, obv)
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:23
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
No, this is not true. Democrats won't vote for an election saboteur nor someone who will not partner in good faith. If GOP put up one of the handful of non-election deniers a Speaker, Dem would consider it.
Don't try to both sides this. GOP dysfunction and everyone expects the Dems to clean up their sh!t. Just like maintenance had to clean up insurrectionists sh!t.
Like who? I'm struggling to think of any GOP rep who is not somewhere on the spectrum of crazy.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:23
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
No, this is not true. Democrats won't vote for an election saboteur nor someone who will not partner in good faith. If GOP put up one of the handful of non-election deniers a Speaker, Dem would consider it.
Don't try to both sides this. GOP dysfunction and everyone expects the Dems to clean up their sh!t. Just like maintenance had to clean up insurrectionists sh!t.
Definitely not 'both sides'-ing this. Was just trying to explain to the PP that it's not as simple as 'They only need to get a few Rs on their side'. It ain't happening. Hell, the Rs can't even get everyone on their side, on their side!
As for who the Democrats can trust, I don't know if there is anyone left. And any Republican that gets speakership based on Democratic votes, will lose their next primary.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:18
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If this drags on into the weekend, I have to believe the Democrats will try and get with the moderate Republicans and put forward a consensus candidate.
Honestly, I think this government might function better if we do have a coalition government in the house
I don't think this happens until/unless the pro-McCarthy faction switches to another candidate like Scalise and that candidate also cannot get votes from the hold-outs. It may take a couple of these before it begins to dawn on them that no one will ever be acceptable to them.
Short of nominating one of their own, is there a way to appease them? I was thinking they just want a scalp, but if Scalise is also not acceptable, then that theory is out the door.
Don't know and it appears the pro-McCarthy faction doesn't know either. It seems like McCarthy has agreed to every demand they've made and they are still voting against him. It's possible it's just a personality issue so Scalise or someone else may be able to break the logjam. But I've seen a number of the HFC saying they'll vote against Scalise too. Who knows. They're crazy and crazy doesn't make sense.
Boebert said yesterday that no one currently in leadership positions are acceptable to her. I don't know if she speaks only for herself with that statement or if the other extremists agree with her. I think they particularly want to embarrass and keep McCarthy out, but they seem to want to burn the house down. She keeps saying she's happy that they're doing good for constituents by preventing money from being spent, which further illustrates how dumb she is and/or how much she's willing to lie with a straight face to back up her incorrect point of view.
She has a GED and her greatest professional accomplishment prior to running for congress was owning a restaurant that required employees to be armed
And yet she's part of a group of 20 people who are breaking the government. Unfortunately, her opinion matters.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:16
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
No, this is not true. Democrats won't vote for an election saboteur nor someone who will not partner in good faith. If GOP put up one of the handful of non-election deniers a Speaker, Dem would consider it.
Don't try to both sides this. GOP dysfunction and everyone expects the Dems to clean up their sh!t. Just like maintenance had to clean up insurrectionists sh!t.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:14
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
They Republicans have the numbers! They're just imploding.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:12
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Hahahahahhaha
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:11
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let's be real here, the average American does not give a flying f*** about this stuff lol
My Facebook feed says differently. Several friends who never talk about politics have mentioned what a s---show this is.
+1 This is breaking through. It’s not normal Washington-is-broken stuff.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:10
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
From Veep writer David Mandel:
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:09
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.
Traditionally, each party selects its own leader. No situation like this has ever occurred where a party cannot get its act together well enough to choose someone. The Republicans are not doing their jobs.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:08
Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:Let's be real here, the average American does not give a flying f*** about this stuff lol
My Facebook feed says differently. Several friends who never talk about politics have mentioned what a s---show this is.
Anonymous
01/05/2023 16:07
Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread
Anonymous wrote:NP here, and I haven't been following this that closely (for shame, especially since I'm a fed! lol)
The Washington Post just announced that Rep. Ted Lieu (D) just voted for Hakeen Jeffries for Speaker. Are the Democrats voting? If so, why don't they just all vote for Jeffries for Speaker? They only need to get a few Rs on their side (which, I know, is pretty much an impossibility).
In a nutshell, no Democrat will vote for a Republican, and no Republican will vote for a Democrat.