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Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

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My question how in the heck did someone get 5 years ahead of the standard curriculum

If they did it on their own that's genius territory, if they did kuman and summer math classes that's everything that's wrong with the math acceleration for no reason

I volunteered for a science event what kids middle school students attended and I have met several who have been taking Pre-calc HN in the 8th grade and one of them was just 7th grade. I would have ruled out like you did, but please note that BC Calc is just one course away from Pre-Calc HN and now that I have actually met the kid(s), I can no longer rule it out. I have no idea how the kid was got so ahead, but somehow did. On a side note, quite a few of the kids who were taking Algebra 2 or more in 8th grade didn't get accepted into TJ in spite of perfect grades, while so many kids who were just taking Algebra 1 were accepted. Looks like essays rule the world of TJ, where you can brag or lie pretty much anything with out worrying about any sort of validation or repercussions.

Quite likely a lot of those kids are not actually understanding the advanced math concepts they are being taught, they have just learned how to get to correct answers. Coming up with answers without grasping the deeper fundamentals is not really useful in the long run in STEM studies.

Well, its definitely possible and I have no way of proving one way or other as I did not quiz them in math. So, you or I can speculate all we want - In any case, the kids were really sharp and I briefly prepped them with mock presentations and questions for the projects they worked on. My kid wasn't so ahead in math, but still paired up with them as they have all had common interests and they did pretty much every thing on their own (multiple projects) with out any help from teachers or parents.

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Anonymous wrote:The new admission process converted a merit-based school into a social project with barely any merit. The damage to TJ’s reputation is done. It will keep up in the rankings for the next couple of years, based on its past glory, after that it won’t. Hope that those, who orchestrated this, will ultimately pay for destroying the very valuable resource of this community. I am not Asian but white.

When did buying the test answers become merit?

If that were the actual concern, TJ math and science teachers could easily create test questions and make new ones each year, while making old ones public, so that any kid NOT at a prep center could prepare on their own. Right now TJ is getting kids from prep center, trained to write perfect essays about imaginary achievements and hardships in their lives, plus cheats, and disadvantaged kids with no particular aptitude. Good luck!

Don’t forget writing coaches! I know one parent/kid who spent months perfecting different flavors of essays. Same with math problem solving essay as it’s says that critical thinking/writing is more important that getting the right answer. This year, it’s science essay (and virtual), it’s all about writing.

I don't blame them preparing for it. They did the right thing.

Can you argue the same for math/science prep for earlier admission process? The problem with essays, TJ is now all about essays and what you write in them that appeals to the readers and you don't have to be truthful. Even if you perfect gpa, its will only make a difference of 37.5 points, while essays carry a whopping 600 points in the TJ point system and nothing else is considered for admission. So, getting into TJ isn't so much about science anymore.

Not defending the process because it is flawed, but being able to write (as well as do math and science) would set folks apart. I work with engineers (I’m a lawyer not an engineer) and many are strong engineers but very weak writers. Being able to communicate better would aid them in their careers. I know the admittance process is hated. I’m just adding that actually being able to communicate one’s thoughts in writing should not be under rated.

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Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

go straight to college do not pass go

My question how in the heck did someone get 5 years ahead of the standard curriculum

If they did it on their own that's genius territory, if they did kuman and summer math classes that's everything that's wrong with the math acceleration for no reason

I volunteered for a science event what kids middle school students attended and I have met several who have been taking Pre-calc HN in the 8th grade and one of them was just 7th grade. I would have ruled out like you did, but please note that BC Calc is just one course away from Pre-Calc HN and now that I have actually met the kid(s), I can no longer rule it out. I have no idea how the kid was got so ahead, but somehow did. On a side note, quite a few of the kids who were taking Algebra 2 or more in 8th grade didn't get accepted into TJ in spite of perfect grades, while so many kids who were just taking Algebra 1 were accepted. Looks like essays rule the world of TJ, where you can brag or lie pretty much anything with out worrying about any sort of validation or repercussions.

Quite likely a lot of those kids are not actually understanding the advanced math concepts they are being taught, they have just learned how to get to correct answers. Coming up with answers without grasping the deeper fundamentals is not really useful in the long run in STEM studies.

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Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

go straight to college do not pass go

My question how in the heck did someone get 5 years ahead of the standard curriculum

If they did it on their own that's genius territory, if they did kuman and summer math classes that's everything that's wrong with the math acceleration for no reason

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Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

go straight to college do not pass go

My question how in the heck did someone get 5 years ahead of the standard curriculum

If they did it on their own that's genius territory, if they did kuman and summer math classes that's everything that's wrong with the math acceleration for no reason

I volunteered for a science event what kids middle school students attended and I have met several who have been taking Pre-calc HN in the 8th grade and one of them was just 7th grade. I would have ruled out like you did, but please note that BC Calc is just one course away from Pre-Calc HN and now that I have actually met the kid(s), I can no longer rule it out. I have no idea how the kid was got so ahead, but somehow did. On a side note, quite a few of the kids who were taking Algebra 2 or more in 8th grade didn't get accepted into TJ in spite of perfect grades, while so many kids who were just taking Algebra 1 were accepted. Looks like essays rule the world of TJ, where you can brag or lie pretty much anything with out worrying about any sort of validation or repercussions.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The new admission process converted a merit-based school into a social project with barely any merit. The damage to TJ’s reputation is done. It will keep up in the rankings for the next couple of years, based on its past glory, after that it won’t. Hope that those, who orchestrated this, will ultimately pay for destroying the very valuable resource of this community. I am not Asian but white.

When did buying the test answers become merit?

If that were the actual concern, TJ math and science teachers could easily create test questions and make new ones each year, while making old ones public, so that any kid NOT at a prep center could prepare on their own. Right now TJ is getting kids from prep center, trained to write perfect essays about imaginary achievements and hardships in their lives, plus cheats, and disadvantaged kids with no particular aptitude. Good luck!

Don’t forget writing coaches! I know one parent/kid who spent months perfecting different flavors of essays. Same with math problem solving essay as it’s says that critical thinking/writing is more important that getting the right answer. This year, it’s science essay (and virtual), it’s all about writing.

I don't blame them preparing for it. They did the right thing.

Can you argue the same for math/science prep for earlier admission process? The problem with essays, TJ is now all about essays and what you write in them that appeals to the readers and you don't have to be truthful. Even if you perfect gpa, its will only make a difference of 37.5 points, while essays carry a whopping 600 points in the TJ point system and nothing else is considered for admission. So, getting into TJ isn't so much about science anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

go straight to college do not pass go

My question how in the heck did someone get 5 years ahead of the standard curriculum

If they did it on their own that's genius territory, if they did kuman and summer math classes that's everything that's wrong with the math acceleration for no reason

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new admission process converted a merit-based school into a social project with barely any merit. The damage to TJ’s reputation is done. It will keep up in the rankings for the next couple of years, based on its past glory, after that it won’t. Hope that those, who orchestrated this, will ultimately pay for destroying the very valuable resource of this community. I am not Asian but white.

When did buying the test answers become merit?

If that were the actual concern, TJ math and science teachers could easily create test questions and make new ones each year, while making old ones public, so that any kid NOT at a prep center could prepare on their own. Right now TJ is getting kids from prep center, trained to write perfect essays about imaginary achievements and hardships in their lives, plus cheats, and disadvantaged kids with no particular aptitude. Good luck!

Don’t forget writing coaches! I know one parent/kid who spent months perfecting different flavors of essays. Same with math problem solving essay as it’s says that critical thinking/writing is more important that getting the right answer. This year, it’s science essay (and virtual), it’s all about writing.

I don't blame them preparing for it. They did the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

go straight to college do not pass go

My question how in the heck did someone get 5 years ahead of the standard curriculum

If they did it on their own that's genius territory, if they did kuman and summer math classes that's everything that's wrong with the math acceleration for no reason

Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

Anonymous wrote:If it helps my DC literally knows a kid who took BC Calc (yes, that AP class-in fact, he's currently even awaiting his AP exam result) and got waitlisted. Not only that, he's also a science whiz--TJ is probably the only school that would actually fit his academic needs as a student, but alas, these new admissions don't seem to care about STEM achievement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new admission process converted a merit-based school into a social project with barely any merit. The damage to TJ’s reputation is done. It will keep up in the rankings for the next couple of years, based on its past glory, after that it won’t. Hope that those, who orchestrated this, will ultimately pay for destroying the very valuable resource of this community. I am not Asian but white.

When did buying the test answers become merit?

If that were the actual concern, TJ math and science teachers could easily create test questions and make new ones each year, while making old ones public, so that any kid NOT at a prep center could prepare on their own. Right now TJ is getting kids from prep center, trained to write perfect essays about imaginary achievements and hardships in their lives, plus cheats, and disadvantaged kids with no particular aptitude. Good luck!

Don’t forget writing coaches! I know one parent/kid who spent months perfecting different flavors of essays. Same with math problem solving essay as it’s says that critical thinking/writing is more important that getting the right answer. This year, it’s science essay (and virtual), it’s all about writing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new admission process converted a merit-based school into a social project with barely any merit. The damage to TJ’s reputation is done. It will keep up in the rankings for the next couple of years, based on its past glory, after that it won’t. Hope that those, who orchestrated this, will ultimately pay for destroying the very valuable resource of this community. I am not Asian but white.

When did buying the test answers become merit?

If that were the actual concern, TJ math and science teachers could easily create test questions and make new ones each year, while making old ones public, so that any kid NOT at a prep center could prepare on their own. Right now TJ is getting kids from prep center, trained to write perfect essays about imaginary achievements and hardships in their lives, plus cheats, and disadvantaged kids with no particular aptitude. Good luck!