Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:37     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
And once May-June are allowed to play down by grade, the slippery slope will only grow.

I'm not for that. I like 12-month window with flexibility to play up on a case-by-case basis. That's the best system possible. Glad to read that most are doing this. It's reasonable to be concerned about college recruiting and grade BUT it's over-the-top to think if you can't do that you're doomed. As the ECNL director said, for some, they may even expand their opportunities. And that confirms what I'm seeing now in my area as teams are getting set for next year. Some seeking (and getting to play up) and others seeking (and getting) to play on grade.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:35     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!
Makes sense. If you are going to the effort of making only one month play GY, you would need to add a few months to make it worth all the work of tracking and verifying grades for carding purposes.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:35     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!

Nope, playing down is not allowed.


Bio-banding already exists. In the GA, kids in this scenario already get to play down when they are in 8th grade. This opening will only grow IF aug grade guy gets his way, because those summer bday parents won't stop pushing for it. AND they'll have a great argument.

Now youve moved on to lieing about GA doing biobanding?

Are you honest about anything?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:32     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!

Nope, playing down is not allowed.


Give it time, a season or 2. It'll happen, if you force players up by grade. It brings grade into the conversation. That's why even if you play up AugSept, you don't get to 99%. There's a ton of summer birthdays who will be misaligned (as well as being among the youngest). Nothing is as neat and clean as you think.

It didnt happen for the 30+ years before 2017 with SY
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:32     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!

Nope, playing down is not allowed.


Bio-banding already exists. In the GA, kids in this scenario already get to play down when they are in 8th grade. This opening will only grow IF aug grade guy gets his way, because those summer bday parents won't stop pushing for it. AND they'll have a great argument.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:30     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!

Nope, playing down is not allowed.


Give it time, a season or 2. It'll happen, if you force players up by grade. It brings grade into the conversation. That's why even if you play up AugSept, you don't get to 99%. There's a ton of summer birthdays who will be misaligned (as well as being among the youngest). Nothing is as neat and clean as you think.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:27     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!

Nope, playing down is not allowed.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:20     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!


College coaches will LOVE it!
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:20     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.


Well, if we're going to have Aug-Sept play up to play on grade, I see nothing wrong with May-July joining their grade, even if it's playing down. It's only a few months!
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:19     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Age guy doesnt understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Age guy doesnt understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
Still 100% correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Age guy doesnt understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten
Age guy doesnt understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Age guy doesnt understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:18     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Mathematically incorrect and wrong. This hack job of the correct matrix makes it look like older players can play down when they cant.


Just read the intro ... Explains it all .. In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:16     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Mathematically incorrect and wrong. This hack job of the correct matrix makes it look like older players can play down when they cant.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:16     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.
Yeah, youngest always shafted.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:15     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2026 15:15     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Yep, the ones screwed over, like summer birthdays, will have an argument.