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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Useless unless you verify. Which is virtually impossible with all the different school districts, private and home schooling.

Clubs dont need to verify anything. The truth will eventually come out. When it does they will move Aug birthday players to their correct grade in school team.

If THIS ever happens FORCING KIDS up -- we will end up in GY. It may have been under the radar, but part of the reason going to BY was to take this off the table. Going back to SY brings it back.

Completely untrue. But it does kill your plans for GY showcases.

Not for GY, but that's where it'll end up, because you'll be disadvantaging people and they'll push for more change.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Ah yes, Arlington ... Their policy ...

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Useless unless you verify. Which is virtually impossible with all the different school districts, private and home schooling.

Clubs dont need to verify anything. The truth will eventually come out. When it does they will move Aug birthday players to their correct grade in school team.

If THIS ever happens FORCING KIDS up -- we will end up in GY. It may have been under the radar, but part of the reason going to BY was to take this off the table. Going back to SY brings it back.

Completely untrue. But it does kill your plans for GY showcases.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Useless unless you verify. Which is virtually impossible with all the different school districts, private and home schooling.

Clubs dont need to verify anything. The truth will eventually come out. When it does they will move Aug birthday players to their correct grade in school team.

If THIS ever happens FORCING KIDS up -- we will end up in GY. It may have been under the radar, but part of the reason going to BY was to take this off the table. Going back to SY brings it back.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

And by forcing kids to play up, you ALSO disadvantage MOST of them (a few will rise anyway). So, all you are is asking for special treatment for kids who remain playing on age.

This disadvantagimg them cuts their chances by playing in college by probably about half while doubling their chances of quitting. ECNL Guy has got it figured out.

Stinks to be a June or July birth in soccer now not August.

Right ... savvy parents of aug bdays should take advantage of the rules. If they buy completely into what Aug grade guy says, they're only hurt their chances.

Thats the rub.

There might be a physical advantage to playing on a grade down when players are young. But every year you dont move up it gets more and more difficult to move up. Also the older kids get the more likely they are to start calling an Aug birthday playing down "Uncle/Aunt" then whatever their name is to make fun of them.

In the end its just better to start playing on the corrct grade in school team from the beginning.

Other parents will be wise. They'll complain these players didn't earn their spot but HAD to be on the team because of their grade. Meanwhile, other clubs that focus on soccer talent will be beat them.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

And by forcing kids to play up, you ALSO disadvantage MOST of them (a few will rise anyway). So, all you are is asking for special treatment for kids who remain playing on age.

This disadvantagimg them cuts their chances by playing in college by probably about half while doubling their chances of quitting. ECNL Guy has got it figured out.

Stinks to be a June or July birth in soccer now not August.

Right ... savvy parents of aug bdays should take advantage of the rules. If they buy completely into what Aug grade guy says, they're only hurt their chances.

Thats the rub.

There might be a physical advantage to playing on a grade down when players are young. But every year you dont move up it gets more and more difficult to move up. Also the older kids get the more likely they are to start calling an Aug birthday playing down "Uncle/Aunt" then whatever their name is to make fun of them.

In the end its just better to start playing on the corrct grade in school team from the beginning.

Yes, instead they can get teased for being the youngest the team. GREAT!

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

And by forcing kids to play up, you ALSO disadvantage MOST of them (a few will rise anyway). So, all you are is asking for special treatment for kids who remain playing on age.

This disadvantagimg them cuts their chances by playing in college by probably about half while doubling their chances of quitting. ECNL Guy has got it figured out.

Stinks to be a June or July birth in soccer now not August.

Right ... savvy parents of aug bdays should take advantage of the rules. If they buy completely into what Aug grade guy says, they're only hurt their chances.

Thats the rub.

There might be a physical advantage to playing on a grade down when players are young. But every year you dont move up it gets more and more difficult to move up. Also the older kids get the more likely they are to start calling an Aug birthday playing down "Uncle/Aunt" then whatever their name is to make fun of them.

In the end its just better to start playing on the corrct grade in school team from the beginning.

Completely false. Easier to go up an age group as they get older, especially after puberty. Differences in age groups lessens over time. And unnecessary to switch because college coaches said they don't care what age group you are in and ECNL Guy pointed out that you can get twice the showcases playing on age.

Why do you care so much about misleading Aug births only? Targeting much.

Not true, rosters for top teams are set at an early age everyone knows this.

The real answer is what's best is going to totally depend on the kid. But if I had an August kid, at ~U8 when my kid goes to club, I would evaluate whether my kid is there with a sole priority to become their best, or to also play with friends. If they are already good enough to make the A team with their grade, I'm going there right away. If the choice is B team on grade, or A team below, I'm looking at the friend factor. At this age, the kid is still deciding whether he/she is having fun with the sport. No friends on either team, I'm having them go down to A for better development. A teams have more serious peers, get treated more seriously by the club, and will give my kid confidence. After this entry to club, I'd be looking every single year to whether my kid is ready to move from lower grade A team to on-grade A team. When he/she is ready, move up. If he/she isn't ready to move up by high school, I'd just move up to the B team to be with friends, and admit that he/she is unlikely to ever make the jump. At that point, there's probably a good chance of being moved down to B team with grade below anyway, which would be super silly.

On-grade A team roster is likely hard to break into later, set early, but it's going to be easier coming from the lower grade A team than from on-grade B team, because the coaches have a stigma in their head against B team kids. At U8-U9, the difference between being youngest and oldest in the group is going to decide A/B team in 90% of cases. It's comical how much difference it makes at that very first tryout.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Useless unless you verify. Which is virtually impossible with all the different school districts, private and home schooling.

Clubs dont need to verify anything. The truth will eventually come out. When it does they will move Aug birthday players to their correct grade in school team.

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Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

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2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
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This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
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Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
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1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Mathematically wrong and trying to tell older players that they can play down when they cant.

Cant you make up your own matrix. Why cut and paste someone else's. Then ruin the math.

Whats even more annoying is theres a HUGE image showing grade in school and year thats completely different then age guys hack job mateix.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Useless unless you verify. Which is virtually impossible with all the different school districts, private and home schooling.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

All clubs have to do is ask.

Just like Arlington did this season.

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Mathematically wrong and trying to tell older players that they can play down when they cant.

Cant you make up your own matrix. Why cut and paste someone else's. Then ruin the math.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.

They won't know grades then or be able to verify grades anytime soon.

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone would do better at communication if they learned about the ladder of abstraction. Google it!

This isnt the issue.

The issue us that age guy wants older players to play down against younger ones. When you add grade to US Soccers eligibility matrix it makes it impossible for him to try and sneak in playing down.

Even more of an issue to age guys play down agenda is if Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team. This is because when Aug birthdays play on their correct grade in school team everyone on the field is the same graduating year. (except holdbacks) Which ultimately is what college coaches want when recruiting/scouting players.

Now, you're arguing for grade year (which I know what you really don't want) But here you are AGAIN, because you want to placate college coaches.

100% School Year aka SY

Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team is 100% allowed by the rules and has nothing to do with Grade Year aka GY

It's on 100 perfect allowed to only have one youth age group but that isn't happening either.

No team in DMV is forcing kids to play up and no team is offering parents to choose playing up. Therefore this argument is academic, aka pointless.

Dont be so sure about that.

Name on DC are club that allows players to choose to play up ? If you can't, your argument to for e grade year is pointless.

How about I provide links to team rosters for this fall once they're available. That way you can see the coincidence of all players with the same graduating year.

If I provide a club name you'll just say "no they're not" so its pointless.

Those lists are just for ECNL aren't even accurate now and some players leave it blank. So the vast majority of clubs don't have public rosters with grade at all. In the end you'll share ones that are GY and your opponents will share those that aren't. That will only prove that in the end it remains case-by-case -- just like last time (5% Skye Eddy parent advocate said at the time) and will follow with what many clubs SAY they are doing (like ECNL dude).

You also won't know if a player was forced up based on grade or earned it based on playing ability.

This would be sorted at tryouts with A or B team invites.