Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Theres always one moron trying to give bad advise.

Seriously, that's been you for almost a year. Why do you care so much about forcing grade year on August kids but not the other months? Can you give any reason other than it helps your Sept daughter be the oldest?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Hahaha so now your hacked up matrix isnt mathematically correct and you're saying the others dont understand math.

Wow, "Keepin it real" I guess. Real dumb that is.

The image even says the opposite of his bad math. Its like people are trying to correct him but he refuses to accept reality.

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Age guy doesnt understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Age guy doesnt understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
Still 100% correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Age guy doesnt understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten
Age guy doesnt understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Age guy doesnt understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Anonymous wrote:In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Hahaha so now your hacked up matrix isnt mathematically correct and you're saying the others dont understand math.

Wow, "Keepin it real" I guess. Real dumb that is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Yep, it's almost like that guy just sees a few people agree and thinks ALL agree while reality is MUCH different

"There are age cuttoffs. It isn't strictly grade. Just easier to say grade because that is what it correlates to. But you can always play up a group. Some lower leagues are also letting kids play down on a case by case basis."

"bingo it's still birthday/year based they just gave it a different name"

Most of the comments suggested playing up. You looked for one that didn't. After this fall all comments will suggest playing up.

This one doesn't say either way and gives some good advice:

"My daughter is in the same boat as a sophomore who should e a freshman. What we had found is it is how your player markets herself. Club events/showcase haven’t drawn the college
coaches. Her effort in terms of emailing, attending ID camps, and social media have gotten her in conversations with coaches. And help from her coaches."

That helps explain why college coaches said they don't care what age group you are in or your age when recruiting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/DTTfBYhEi5S/

Looks like clubs are starting to figure out how grade works with SY.

This is a MLSN/Aspire (probably soon to be GA) club

Yep, all the comments are about misaligned players and parents asking about it and the club saying it's age-based and grade is more of what "most" will be. If anything, this is a example as to why you should leave grade out altogether in order not to confuse people.

Nope 100% helpful.

The play downers can play the technicality game but it doesnt matter. The club has already told them how the intend to roster Aug birthdays this fall.

Yep, in the Q&A:

Q: This is different than our state’s birthday cut offs for grade. My daughter’s birthday is Aug 19, 2012 and will be in 9th grade next year. According to this post she would be on an 8th grade team

A: The grades will apply to most of the kids but not all, so just follow the birthdate timeline as that is what will determine their team!

This comment shouldn't be overlooked.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/DTTfBYhEi5S/

Looks like clubs are starting to figure out how grade works with SY.

This is a MLSN/Aspire (probably soon to be GA) club

You should REALLY read the comments. The first one asked about an exception. Here was the response:

"The grade portion will apply to most of the kids but not all. We will be following the birthdate timeline when placing kids, so he would be in the 7U (1st grade) age group!"

Why do the comments matter?

My statement was that clubs are starting to figure out how grade works with SY.

Opposite, see ECNL guy school I Hate Soccer Guy on benefits of playing on age.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Yep, it's almost like that guy just sees a few people agree and thinks ALL agree while reality is MUCH different

"There are age cuttoffs. It isn't strictly grade. Just easier to say grade because that is what it correlates to. But you can always play up a group. Some lower leagues are also letting kids play down on a case by case basis."

"bingo it's still birthday/year based they just gave it a different name"

Most of the comments suggested playing up. You looked for one that didn't. After this fall all comments will suggest playing up.

This one doesn't say either way and gives some good advice:

"My daughter is in the same boat as a sophomore who should e a freshman. What we had found is it is how your player markets herself. Club events/showcase haven’t drawn the college
coaches. Her effort in terms of emailing, attending ID camps, and social media have gotten her in conversations with coaches. And help from her coaches."

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Grade guy doesn't understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Grade guy doesn't understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall or Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Still 100% correct.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Grade guy doesn't understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophomore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2021 ≈ Kindergarten
Grade guy doesn't understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Grade guy doesn't understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Yep, it's almost like that guy just sees a few people agree and thinks ALL agree while reality is MUCH different

"There are age cuttoffs. It isn't strictly grade. Just easier to say grade because that is what it correlates to. But you can always play up a group. Some lower leagues are also letting kids play down on a case by case basis."

"bingo it's still birthday/year based they just gave it a different name"

Most of the comments suggested playing up. You looked for one that didn't. After this fall all comments will suggest playing up.

Then why did you say ALL comments when that wasn't the case? Also, it was more than one. Some just stated facts, not gave advice.

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.
Age guy doesnt understand math

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

Age guy doesnt understand math

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
Still 100% correct.
Age guy doesnt understand math
This is for next fall when SY starts.
Age guy doesnt understand math
11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten
Age guy doesnt understand math
Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...
Age guy doesnt understand math
1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Yep, it's almost like that guy just sees a few people agree and thinks ALL agree while reality is MUCH different

"There are age cuttoffs. It isn't strictly grade. Just easier to say grade because that is what it correlates to. But you can always play up a group. Some lower leagues are also letting kids play down on a case by case basis."

"bingo it's still birthday/year based they just gave it a different name"

Most of the comments suggested playing up. You looked for one that didn't. After this fall all comments will suggest playing up.

It makes sense parents have this question. Hopefully, they see the ECNL guy's interview. It's not crazy to have this concern, but they need to understand the new reality unlike wrong assumptions from aug. grade guy. It's really much more case-by-case.

So, this ECNL director from Michigan basically says they’re going to do what makes the most sense for their individual players (Case-by-case). Play them on age and showcase them on grade, if/when, that makes sense. He does say college coaches want to see all players of a class together but also notes what league, who the opponents are also vital in player evaluation. He says some of their best players they’ve had, including a YNT now a GK at Penn State, were late developers. Also, this club plays year round, so hasn't had to deal with trap players.

The age change is discussed between roughly 14-20 minutes of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLkj6MmgIA

Highlighting key parts:

I Hate Soccer Guy: I get DMs all the time about, well, my daughter's an August birthday, but she's graduating and whatever. And like, what are you doing? Okay, let's say a kid falls on the junior team. … Junior class team, but she's graduating this year with the seniors or whatever. … I know a lot of Flash girls are just going to stay in their grad year. What are you guys going to do?

ECNL dude: So we actually we spent a lot of time talking to a lot of the top clubs, a lot of like we talked to players, people in the federation, we talked to people in college like what would be the best thing to do because at some point as well you have to rip the band-aid off. It's like if you keep everything as is, you just push the problem down the road. So for us, every single kid is going to where their birth date aligns. Okay? And that includes like no exceptions.

So now if we find a situation now where we need to move a kid because they're just unchallenged, right? Then you can move them from there. Yeah. Right. But let's align it all. We'll rip the band-aid off. Right. And now we can truly see things. And not only that, but you look at like if I'm a if I'm a senior and I have the opportunity to play U17 again, I'm doing it a 100 out of 100 times because there's six playoff spots. There's an environment where you're competing for longer, right? right? You got the opportunity to do things and the motivation level is really high. The senior year always curtails unfortunately. Yeah. Um you know with kids. So you know for me it's a lot of people fall into that and as well you get a great benefit of if you're uncommitted you now get to get a redo on some of the exposure that you know you maybe wouldn't have before if you were on a senior team, right?

So there's there's a lot of benefits. So for us, you know, we're in a situation where everyone's going into that and then we can move things off of that if it's the right thing. Now then you also have to look at it. Okay, if a player goes into an age younger but their grade level is here, how do you help them with showcasing? So for us, we have made sure that in our kind of roster assembly, we created opportunities so that you know at ECNL showcases or Jefferson Cup or something like that, we have the ability to bring this player with us. So now they still get the best of both worlds, right? If you can develop inside this environment, we can also then showcase you with your grade level, but also if you're maybe a little bit of a late developer, like for example, your typical recruitment, your elite players are getting watched a lot, their sophomore years.

Your next tier is mainly the junior year, but let's say you make it to junior year and you've really developed, but now you're on a mainly sophomore team. You get the opportunity to now get re-seen, right, by a lot of those schools that maybe aren't watching junior classes anymore.

I Hate Soccer Guy: I've never thought of it like that.

ECNL dude: Yeah. Okay. So, there's a lot of benefits to it. That's a positive of being playing down again.

Like another positive because the younger parts of the older grade are typically going to be your late developers, right? So, it gives you the opportunity now to really help them because they, you know, whether it's physical maturation, mental, whatever it might be. It's ultimately up to the kid, but they can showcase because we've had a ton of kids that have come in, you know, and been late developers. They've been on second and third teams and they've risen and they've gone, you know, RL to ECNL to power four, right? And that's, you know, one of our one of our goalkeepers is one of my favorite stories of all time. She's a sophomore at Penn State right now. … So you know, yeah, those late developers are there. And that's the thing is you have to have ways to help them, right? And this kind of provides a natural way. If you are a younger part of your grade, you now have a second opportunity that maybe you wouldn't have got before.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Theres always one moron trying to give bad advise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1580147174118917&id=100063709473312

Another Facebook thread where a parent with a Seotember birthday kid is asking about what to do this fall. All the comments suggest playing up so they're not misaligned when its time for college recruiting.

Im starting ti see a pattern here.

Oh yeah, ALL the comments ...

She is in a great spot because she will be one of the oldest on her team so likely bigger and faster. Statistically the kids in the oldest 1/3 of any age banding do better and get more playing time in athletics. My kid was part of the first switch from Aug cut off to birth year. She will adjust and be just fine.

Yep, it's almost like that guy just sees a few people agree and thinks ALL agree while reality is MUCH different

"There are age cuttoffs. It isn't strictly grade. Just easier to say grade because that is what it correlates to. But you can always play up a group. Some lower leagues are also letting kids play down on a case by case basis."

"bingo it's still birthday/year based they just gave it a different name"